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Choice of Damnations
Sorcery — Arcane
Target opponent chooses a number. You may have that player lose that much life. If you don't, that player sacrifices all but that many permanents.
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Choice of Damnations Discussion
3 hours ago
So tested out toshiro yesterday and to my surprise Helm of the Host go surprisingly well in the deck same with Sadistic Sacrament and I see a few cards that can benefit from the helm. check out Choice of Damnations as well or if you can afford it Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed
2 months ago
lance4224130 Hey, as we are playing exactly the same colours EDH decks, I had to come here too!
I started EDH with a Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief deck (which is on my page if you want to have a look, it may give you some ideas).
As experienced, I don't really like Magus of the Coffers. Even if you got the boots to directly equip him (and you don't play them, which is understandable with Erebos as commander), it's really slow. If you're looking for a card with a similar effect, you could put in a Doubling Cube (a bit greedy though, but I love this card), an Extraplanar Lens (play snow-covered swamps if you go for it, so your opponents won't get any benefits) or Jet Medallion.
Consuming Vapors feels badly slow and only affect one dude. Even if it has rebound, I won't play it. I play Choice of Damnations in my Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck because I have the ability to down everyone life totals quite quickly... in a hard control deck as this one, I think it's just not good enough. Your opponents will often choose to lose something like 9-10 life points on the best cases, and you will spend all your mana in a useless card. Same reaction for Consume Spirit, Soul Burn and Drain Life. Except maybe in some greedy Jeleva decklists, Curse of the Cabal seems like a bad card for EDH.
If you want to play devotion, Phyrexian Obliterator and Necropotence are staples. Erebos's Titan is not bad either (and flavorful). Dread Shade at leat deserves some testing playtime. Even if it's not your initial strategy, Grave Titan is huge and ugly - so it's definitely everything you like in his kind of deck. Kokusho, the Evening Star is a great tread to take advantage on your opponents.
If you want to stay on a more ''creatureless'' devotion version, you could try out Kuon, Ogre Ascendant which is hard to flip, but pretty damn effective.
All Is Dust makes out as a great board-clear, but you should keep in mind it also forces you to sacrifice your enchantments. Phyrexian Scriptures are nice in synergy with The Abyss, but it's quite a slow card. Massacre Wurm is a nice card to control the board (hum... to destroy every token deck), healing you and giving you a strong body on the battlefield.
Bitterblossom with Contamination and/or Attrition is op - Bloodghast / Ophiomancer serve the same purposes, and you will also love to add Skullclamp if you go for it, having access to a nice sac outlet is what makes monoB that strong in my opinion (also with cards like Ashnod's Altar, Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos (flavorful!) etc.).
You have the Lich's Mastery which seems funny.
I certainly forgot a lot of cards, but I'll let you know if something else come to my mind. Have great fun building it up!
2 months ago
I would recommend Death or Glory, Diabolic Tutor for the art and flavor, same for Dark Tutelage. maybe these could be fun politics in multiplayer: Intellectual Offering, Benevolent Offering, Infernal Offering. Head Games and Jester's Mask make for great political cards as they can help or hinder. Choice of Damnations could be fun even if it isn't that strong.
5 months ago
6 months ago
I dig the color combination.
Depending on how competitive or casual your playgroup is, Choice of Damnations can provoke some fun decision-making. If your playgroup is okay with combos, Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Bond might be good inclusions. I also like Beacon of Unrest and Torment of Hailfire in Bx decks.
6 months ago
Have you tested with Serra Ascendant? That might work well in this deck. You could also try out Athreos, God of Passage, with Zulaport Cutthroat and a sac outlet or two like High Market, Vampiric Rites, or Viscera Seer.
Choice of Damnations, Fractured Identity, Teferi's Protection, and Torment of Hailfire can all be fun in multiplayer games in these colors. Pull from Tomorrow and Sphinx's Revelation might be good for card draw.
How does your mana base treat you during play? It seems you need a lot more B mana, maybe a little less u, and much less W. Have you tried swapping out BW and UW lands for more BU lands? Or for more basic swamps?
Have fun brewing!
7 months ago
Zur however tutors out the most important enchantments in the deck, he is essentially a backup plan should I not pull any untapping methods. Choice of Damnations seems to just be a bit too gimicky, not effective enough to justify its use. It is just too volatile. Torment of Hailfire is one my favorite cards ever printed, but I'm not sure It has a place here. Though If I can find a way it is going into the deck because I love the design. Beacon of Unrest however is a good choice, though I think I might put in my copy of Animate Dead instead because its cheaper and quicker, though I could just include both because they are good cards.
Thanks for the feedback! Happy Brewing!
7 months ago
I like Torment of Hailfire well enough. One way or another, it is pretty punishing. There are a lot of token decks in my meta, and it is not the best at punishing them. I find Choice of Damnations to be very underwhelming. I frequently find it ends up being an inefficient damage spell at somewhere between 6-10 single target player damage. An Exsanguinate is often better in both of those slots, especially in decks that like to extend the game.
As for a lot of those enchantments, I have a hard time introducing even light stax into my meta. This deck as is has made people balk, and this is even less stax-y than yours. I have to work in ways that punish deck archetypes, but still allow people to play their decks. That is the beauty of Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control. Everyone gets to play their deck out, people fall one at a time, and then someone faces off against Marchesa. About 80% of the time, she scrapes out a win, and everyone seems to think it is a plain lucky win that happened because everyone just handed it to me. Little do they know that it is because I have engineered a board state that very subtly supports that outcome. Stax tends to make games unfun for my friends. I have to go very light on stax, and then make my stax-esque pieces avoidable if they just don't attack me. That is sort of my goal here as well.
I am thinking about my endgame tactics after a few games. Bloodchief Ascension and Zur's Weirding are cool together, and gives very strong control, but it is slow, and people seem to hate Zur's Weirding. I am thinking about strengthening the Paradox Engine combo, adding some specific hate for common deck archetypes that synergize with the rest of the deck, and then adding a few bomb finishers that are good for control decks. At this point, I am thinking:
Man-o'-War -> Unwinding Clock Take out a duplicate bounce and add to the power of the mana rock suite. And that artwork is amazing. Need it in foil. May go further and add Vedalken Orrery for playing on other people's turns. A sort of ad hoc semi-Prophet of Kruphix.
Tidehollow Strix -> Aven Mindcensor This would hate on anyone with too many tutors and fetches, and specifically slows combo decks. If this works well, I may add Mindlock Orb. If I do this, fetches and other tutors will be removed. Which may increase the need for my next change.
Clutch of the Undercity -> Lim-Dul's Vault Removal of a bad tutor for a not-really-tutor, to help get around Mindlock Orb. If this change happens, then possibly will need to remove Expedition Map for the same reason. Cards with alternate uses besides tutoring could stay.
Not sure how, but would like to add Energy Field and Rest in Peace, possibly some other pillow fort cards. I find Pillow Fort to be incredibly political. Maybe exchange Merieke Ri Berit for Zur the Enchanter, and may rework my utility creatures, planning to help speed up my Pillow Fort. This may conflict with Mindlock Orb. Not sure what is working and what is not.
Cultivator's Caravan -> A different mana rock. I can only crew this with Sen Triplets, an enemy creature I steal, or multiple creatures, unless my utility creatures get bigger. May trial this for a bit longer. Enemy creatures may become my mainstay for crewing this, but I have a feeling that this is less than optimal. I am considering Chrome Mox in this slot, or Grim Monolith. Either that or a finisher like Sun Titan or Consecrated Sphinx to get value and fill that finisher spot as well.
Wash Out -> Another mass bounce or straight board wipe spell. Stealing creatures to bounce them back to their owners' hands is not cool. This would work better in a different deck. Still, I need mass control.
Artifact lands -> Basics. Artifact hate may become too much for me to withstand. Need a balance.
Annyway, after some more play testing, I think I am narrowing in on the interesting style of control you can get in a Sen Triplets deck. It has been fun so far.