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Karmic Justice Discussion
1 week ago
Also, thanks. I decided not to include Karmic Justice as I'm an Eternal Target straight out of Archenemy anyway. Anyways, I got some other things to build now. later.
1 week ago
Also, what's your opinion on Karmic Justice?
1 week ago
I've used Karmic Justice in the past as a removal deterrent, but it's useless against exiling removal.
3 weeks ago
Solemnity is a really strong card that shutdowns Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed-Triskelion/Walking Ballista combo, Marchesa, the Black Rose reanimator and general infect decks. Since you're not running any of these strategies, swap in Solemnity. It comboes with Phyrexian Unlife (you can't die since you can't have poison counters), Lost Auramancers (that can be immediately killed with High Market to bring Decree of Silence so no one but you can play Magic), Glen Elendra Archmage (counter every single noncreature spell your opponents cast, since she can't have -1/-1 counters), Dark Depths (the land enters without counters, then immediately turns into Marit Lage - but she can still be easily Swords to Plowshares'd), Glacial Chasm (if it can't get counters, you can keep it forever to never be attacked), Mystic Remora (free draws for the rest of the game) and Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle (it enters as a creature). It also comboes with Elephant Grass (more pillowfort), Force Bubble, Delaying Shield and Kitchen Finks, but they're not that good on their own. However, you need to protect your combo pieces: Solemnity+Decree of Silence win combo cost a whopping 11 mana, and can be disrupted easily. So you need protection of targeted removal. Privileged Position, Sterling Grove and Greater Auramancy can do the trick, and the Grove doubles as a tutor. // Enchanted Evening comboes with Aura Thief+High Market, Cleansing Meditation, Calming Verse, Opalescence+Mirari's Wake (all opponents' lands will be 0/0s and will be put into the graveyard while yours will be 1/1s) and Serra's Sanctum. // Omniscience + an Enchantress + Approach of the Second Sun is a free win if uncountered. // If I can suggest some improvements on your manabase: Exotic Orchard, Rogue's Passage, Prairie Stream and Yavimaya Coast are cheap replacements for Thornwood Falls, Woodland Stream and 2 Islands. Weirding Wood is better than Gift of Paradise, because it can draw you a card via Clue. Card advantage is crucial in EDH, and you should run at least 6 sources of realiable draw. That's why I recommend you to run Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, Kruphix's Insight, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, Sylvan Library (comboes with Abundance), Argothian Enchantress. // Eladamri's Call tutors your creatures. Ground Seal and Rest in Peace shutdown graveyard stategies. Open the Vaults is a really good budget replacement of Replenish and plays around Ground Seal (better replace Hanna, Ship's Navigator - she's too slow). Courser of Kruphix, Land Tax, Mirari's Wake, Burgeoning and Exploration are great ramp Leyline of Anticipation allows you to play on your opponents' turn. Copy Enchantment gives more utility. Search for Azcanta Flip fills the graveyard for Open the Vaults and easily flips into a good utility land. Seal of Primordium, Seal of Cleansing, Banishing Light, Stasis Snare, Cast Out, Prison Term, Act of Authority, Detention Sphere, Imprisoned in the Moon, Song of the Dryads, Grasp of Fate and Aura Shards take care of troublesome permanents. Energy Flux, Aura of Silence and Stony Silence deals with artifact decks. Austere Command, Wrath of God, Supreme Verdict and Cyclonic Rift are great boardwipes. Teferi's Protection is the best protection spell ever released. Karmic Justice and Martyr's Bond tell people to don't mess with you. Collective Restraint is another Propaganda effect (comboes with Prismatic Omen).
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3 weeks ago
Yo breh, I looked through what you have and here are some suggestions
Cards to switch out
It's pretty rare that you'll be hit with a target player effect at our table, so this won't see much use. Good for a sideboard though in case you're up against a burn or mill deck.
Dawn Charm is enough for a deck with as much protection from attacking as this deck, so you can drop Riot Control. Epicure of Blood is the second half of your instantly kill everyone in the game combo.
Cry of Contrition doesn't do much since it doesn't target a specific card. Karlov is just one mana cheaper, and with as much life gain as you will be getting, it's basically an endless source of exile effects and can double as a super strong attacker or blocker because it'll be gaining 6+ counters per round at a 3 person table.
Mill won't be a win condition for this deck, and by the time you deal enough damage to effectively mill someone, you probably will have already killed them. Also you could use some more mana rocks in this deck in general.
More reliable than Angelic Accord and can generate as many angels as you can pay for.
Obzedat does what 90% of your deck does, only he comes with the drawback of not being able to block if you actually use his ability. Teysa shuts down creature swamp completely and gives you tokens to block with.
Land of your choice for Reliquary Tower
These don't seem great at first but it lets you get the lands that you want, while simultaneously reducing your land base and deck size after playing them which raises the probability of drawing the cards you want.
Approach of the Second Sun (because it's an aesthetic win con)
Overwhelming Splendor if you want to be a real cunt
The reason this isn't listed as a necessity is because I'm pretty sure you already are adding it. Seriously tho add it
This straight up just prevents people from playing anything with toughness 2 or less and puts a gap of 4 between the power/toughness of your creatures and theirs, making all of your creatures viable attackers and blockers. Seriously this wins games
1 month ago
1 month ago
Thanks, RipGut-Gway, this deck has been an evolution. Kinda funny, I thought about putting Karmic Justice, in a n earlier build, but I kept thinking that it wouldn’t do much with Avacyn on board. Now my meta knows what this deck, and try to prevent Avacyn at all cost. So, Karmic Justice might find a home. Good suggestion.
1 month ago
Alright man, this deck has some real potential and I am super into it. The first things as you said is that you need to cut cards. You do not want to be running more than 100 otherwise it will weaken the whole deck. Some of my own suggestions would be Kiss of the Amesha, Vizkopa Guildmage, Elixir of Immortality, Spectral Searchlight, Karmic Justice, Victory Chimes, Blessed Alliance, Second Sunrise, Axis of Mortality and or Beacon of Immortality
My next thing I think your deck needs is a strong game ender. This is pretty much a control deck but you could really use a way to end a game when it gets down to just you and your "friend". Note most of my suggestions are trying to be as political as possible. Check out Corrupted Conscience, Paradox Haze, Cultural Exchange, Bribery, Mind's Dilation, Reins of Power, and Archfiend of Despair. These are just my own suggestions though I am super interested to see where this deck with go! Ps Celestial Dawn is just a good card in this deck.