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Monastery Flock Discussion
3 days ago
Balzeron: First of all I would like to say that I am honored that my deck has helped inspire your deck building. Secondly, I have some responses to you comments below:
Amaranthine Wall and Hornet Nest are ones that I am still considering. The indestructibility is definitely a nice ability and being able to make a bunch of 1/1 flying death touchers when someone blocks the nest is pretty awesome.
Fog Bank, Guard Gomazoa, and Mindbender Spores are all great cards if you are going a more defensive route. I chose to exclude them because I am a more aggressive list and I wanted big (4 toughness or greater), cheap walls.
My deck personally doesn't want cards like Manor Gargoyle, Ezuri, Claw of Progress, Woolly Razorback, Plumeveil, Soulbound Guardians, or Fortified Area as all of these cards either have power greater than 2 or pump my creatures power. I rely heavily on staying at 2 power or less so I can abuse Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive or Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa.
The same goes for Doorkeeper. Mill is already hard enough to pull off with a dedicated mill deck in EDH because decks are large and there are 3 opponents. I'd rather play either larger walls or defenders with more relevant abilities.
The banding suggestions are interesting. I had to re-read the rules on banding and I did not realize it also affects attacking creatures. Those could be interesting, I'll have to think about that.
Spidersilk Armor and Tower Defense are awesome with Arcades and may very well end up in my final list. Right now I want to try out Hold the Gates over Spidersilk Armor as it has a higher upside and I already have a number of answers for fliers (Wonder, Angelic Wall, Wall of Tanglecord, Wall of Denial and Arcades himself). Since this list is aggressive, I think vigilance is actually a more impactful keyword in my deck. I already have a pseudo Tower Defense in Defender of the Order. I don't think Defender is particularly better than the Defense, but I have an old foil of it from Legions which I just really want to play.
Thanks for the comments and if you ever want another pair of eyes on your deck, let me know.
5 days ago
This is actually a deck I really want to build, and know nothing about making a commander deck, so I'm keeping a very close eye on this deck! Some card suggestions/ideas I personally have would be:
Amaranthine Wall, I played this wall in a draft game a few weeks ago and the indestructible ability pretty much won the game for me by itself, and is what inspired me to think about this kind of deck. Manor Gargoyle is another good choice for this.
Champion's Helm, Good equipment to keep our commander safe
Doorkeeper, the mill potential is pretty high here
Ezuri, Claw of Progress, since so many walls have 0 power,
Wave of Reckoning, as another board wipe
Woolly Razorback, doesn't have defender, but is cheap, becomes a 7/7, and can block literally any amount of damage 3 times
Shield Bearer, Wall of Caltrops, Wall of Shields, Fortified Area, Baton of Morale, Helm of Chatzuk, Formation, Remember banding? I used to love banding! I think banding would compliment a wall deck very well. Being able to dictate where your opponents damage goes is a big plus I think
What do you think of these suggestions? I really want to buy the cards for a deck like this soon, and your deck is a huge inspiration to me.
3 months ago
I was watching one of The Professor's videos going over card advantage, and in it he expresses that (I forget which card exactly so I'll have a stand-in) cards like Mind Sculpt essentially pay to discard a card from your hand.
His point is that there are generally better ways to use that . You don't affect the boardstate in a meaningful way, you don't disrupt their hand or counter their spells, and you don't advance your boardstate or your hand.
You tap two of your lands to discard a card. Period.
But I don't see it that way. You just removed seven cards from their library. You potentially got rid of very useful cards. In the case of things like Destroy the Evidence, they mill until four lands are in their graveyard. Whether they topdeck all four lands in a row, or they are running just an 18-land deck and they throw just as many cards away simply depends. Regardless, four lands is a huge blow to anybody's game.
So my question is very straightforward: Why don't we see more mill?
With combos like Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank, or Fraying Sanity + Glimpse the Unthinkable, or playsets of Destroy the Evidence + Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker (Both milling until four lands), I don't understand why we don't see more of Mill out there?
And before you state the "obvious" that there's no good protection, there's plenty. Nemesis of Reason, Gifted Aetherborn, Vampire Nighthawk, Wall of Frost, Monastery Flock, and they all do really well with Phenax, God of Deception.
So what are your guy's thoughts? Why isn't Mill more commonly played, or at the very least used as a sub-strategy when decks can allow for it?
6 months ago
I didn't even realize Chronic Flooding was a thing, that will definitely be going in.
I'll consider the Tidewater minion. The original version of this deck that I had on paper had more/bigger spells like Dreadwaters, Mnemonic Wall had more targets, and also a reason to have more land, but since that got removed due to being slow, that edit will be made.
Wall of Kelp looks good, I'm just not sure I'll be able to find any to make a paper deck for it. I already might have to replaced some of the older cards like Shield Sphere simply because they aren't easily obtainable for me. As for the Drift of Phantasms itself, I was looking at the blue defenders in Gatherer and considered it to be a strict upgrade to my original solution to flying creatures, which was Monastery Flock.
8 months ago
A number of changes to report for the deck! I added a potential infinite combo involving three pieces. Deepfathom Skulker has been removed for Paradise Mantle. The mantle is used for Knacksaw Clique which has replaced Monastery Flock to continuously pay for its own ability. Heartstone is used to make the cost cheaper. Returned Centaur is removed in favor of Rhystic Study.
9 months ago
This is a really nice deck, but I would suggest adding a few creatures. They do stil get to play things and some things will manage to slip through your fingers, so you may need to add a bit more removal and or counter spells, like Disallow simple creatures with high toughness would be perfect just to give you some protection, like Monastery Flock, or even better to go with the theme, Wall of Frost
1 year ago
Definitely take out Failed Inspection Traumatic Visions Marang River Prowler Aether Meltdown Rod of Ruin Millstone Slayer's Cleaver Soul Separator Lens of Clarity Pacification Array Tome Scour Winged Sliver Windrider Patrol Sliver Construct Skyline Predator Shifting Sliver Hinterland Drake Monastery Flock Kheru Spellsnatcher Deep-Sea Terror Diffusion Sliver Mystical Teachings
I know thats a lot but most of those cards are just straight bad for commander, and the slivers only benefit each other and theres just not enough of them, replace those and I have a few more suggestions
Serum Visions Cephalid Constable Chasm Skulker (def get Skulker) Deadeye Navigator Delver of Secrets Flip Disciple of the Ring Djinn of Wishes Contingency Plan and Niblis of Frost are just a few more that are pretty good
1 year ago
Cards I'd cut: