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5 months ago
6 months ago
Nethereon Currently this deck is done by turn 7, however, I'd like turn 5-6 instead. I run mainly aggro red such as this Deck:goblin boom or turbo fog decks such as the one i'm currently putting together Fog you too.
I've conceded that this deck will probably never beat my goblins (truth is your never gonna be able to wipe their board as they swing in for lethal by that time 80% of the time and it's like 4 mana to get everything back out) and a simple old eldrazi would make winning against fog very hard. I don't think slowing down and being defensive is the answer in this situation however, well unless we're talking Plumeveil or a Clone My meta frowns upon combo decks around me, which helps this deck out a bit I guess.
I've figure this deck is to take out midrange and late game decks, jund,abzan, those still stuck on the eldrazi hype train.
7 months ago
You have way too many lands in this list. I'd cut them down to 23-24. (Why mountains?) Sphinx's Tutelage and Thought Scour would be nice additions, as would Archive Traps if you have the funds for them. I'd run the full 4 Jace's Phantasms and add 4 Hedron Crabs to this list instead of some of the Plumeveils. Manic Scribe might do work here as well. Startled Awake Flip is another option, as is Jace, Memory Adept for a finisher. Visions of Beyond does great work in my mill deck as well, but it's up to you on how much you're willing to spend on a 'budget' mill deck.
1 year ago
The only thing I don't like about Rogue's Passage is that it isn't a spell so it doesn't count to remove a counter.
It does also tie up 4 mana which depending on what else you need to cast that turn it can prevent you from being able to cast a counterspell (although your average cmc is super cheap). That doesn't mean take it out since in a longer game that may not matter and you can do it with an empty hand.
Unless you have more than 1 TitI on the board, it's going to take 2-3 attacks to put someone down since you don't really have other aggressive creatures (though you can poke with those flyers). I like the idea of Distortion Strike since it has rebound and adds an extra damage, so that "guarantees" 16 damage for only a single blue mana and leaves your mana pool open for absolutely anything. Artful Dodge is another cheap option that could work too and being able to use flashback whenever you need might work out better than Rebound. I like the idea of Plumeveil in there, too. I think since you only have 14 creatures I'd try moving the Echoing Truth to the sideboard to add in the Plume since there is room over there, and Echoing Truth could be a wasted slot if there aren't targets.
The only other card that I really like for mono blue that can help with your setup is Anticipate. You have a little bit of draw from Serum Visions and the scry 2 is nice, but that's about it to get through your deck. The Delver sort of lets you scry for spells, but Anticipate can straight up save you 3 turns, and since it is an instant you can leave your mana open to play or bluff counter spells and do it at the end of your opponents turn to grab a card that might have otherwise taken you a few turns to get to. My friend that plays his TitI deck has that problem since he only runs 12 creatures where he just has a ton of pump or counter cards and nothing to use them on because he has to get through so many non-creature cards in the deck.
Just some budget suggestions, I don't know exactly how each of those cards are working out for you in playtesting so you would know best what cards to move around. It's nice to have 4 slots open in the sideboard so you can try out different things without having to lose cards altogether.
1 year ago
Slip Through Space was the other option. At worst its draw a card. I might add more skites to the sideboard. My gut feeling at the moment is we want a few creatures that can kill attackers as well. Hence Shorecrasher Elemental although I did consider Plumeveil.
1 year ago
So I've been playtesting the following on MTGO, and having a fair bit of fun. It's a Mono Blue Control/Tempo deck that pairs Thing in the Ice Flip with Kira, Great Glass-Spinner to protect it and uses counterspells and bounce effects to manage the board state.
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Now because I'm invested in a few Mardu decks at the moment, and to give myself a challenge I'm trying to brew this on a budget. The Spellskites I already own, but otherwise I'm not going to be adding the Trifecta of Snapcaster Mage, Vendilion Clique or Cryptic Command in the short term. Ancestral Vision also needs to sit on the maybe list, at least until (?) the price comes down. However this does mean we get a chance to look at some unheralded cards, and see if they can do a job.
One of the themes from playtesting was the need to get the damage from TITI through once flipped, to prevent if being chump blocked on its second attacking turn.
Counterspell mix feels about right
Sideboard needs refining
Creatures need looking at for possible refinement:
At the minute we play Delver of Secrets Flip, which flips fairly consistently to give us a flyer that can attack or block and attracts removal. I'm also looking at Judge's Familiar as a flyer with upside, Cloudfin Raptor because we play TITI and Shorecrasher Elemental which can both trigger it. Phantasmal Bear doesn't feel right outside of illusions, and having flying blockers is very useful. I've also looked at Wingcrafter with a view to it granting flying to TITI to create a flying blocker/attacker to help get damage through.
At the minute Spellskite is mainboard with Dimensional Infiltrator in the side for decks where having another flying blocker is useful, and against creatures with protection from symbolUU. In terms of alternatives I did wonder about Voidmage Prodigy for devotion and synergy if we were going to play Wingcrafter and possibly Thassa, God of the Sea.
Kira, Great Glass-Spinner holds the deck together, and aside from Supreme Verdict we hold enough counters not to have to worry too much about wraths. Shorecrasher Elemental feels like a decent fit, but I'm interested to see what people think of relative to Plumeveil
Few other control things I'd like people's thoughts on:
1 year ago
No, I would say it pretty reliably scoops to aggro. Its only tools to do anything about an aggro rush before T4 are Plumeveil and a handful of counterspells. A go-wide aggro deck like Affinity, Gruul Zoo, Elves, and especially Merfolk would own that deck's soul. Burn might have a bit more trouble with it because of the counterspells, but even then a creature-heavy hand would rip it a new one. For consideration, mono- Tron is much more prepared for the aggro matchup with the likes of Chalice of the Void, Spatial Contortion, Treasure Mage, and either Solemn Simulacrum or Thought-Knot Seer, and those decks still eat it for lunch.