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Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
Planeswalker — Ajani
+1: Distribute three +1/+1 counters among one, two, or three target creatures you control.
+1: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal an Aura, creature, or planeswalker card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
-8: You gain 100 life.
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Ajani, Mentor of Heroes Discussion
5 hours ago
As you have added this list to the superfriends hub and mention that creatures would be the first thing you'd cut, I'll mainly focus my recommendations on the superfriends theme. A lot of the suggestions I am going to make might seem fairly obvious if you have seen more conventional superfriends lists, but incase you have not, I'll make them anyways.
Ok, after finishing this, I might need to add a TLDR: Subthemes are great, they make your deck unique. But if you want your deck to be reasonably streamlined, you might want to keep your subthemes just that: subtheme(s) to an actual main theme. Build your shell with that main theme in mind and then see how much space remains for your subtheme(s). Don't get caught in minute synergies between subtheme cards, keep asking yourself "does this go with my main theme or AT LEAST really hit the core of my subtheme?" The rest develops as you play the list and tinker around with it. Below you find some recommendations I would make for a superfriends shell. But take this all with a grain of salt, I am by no means an amazing player, nor an expert on deckbuilding.
Let's start this off with Primevals' Glorious Rebirth. This card is just plain insane. It allows you to play your walkers early on in the game without worrying about them dying too much and then get them all back in one backbreaking turn later on. Doubling Season into this has won me quite a few games.
Oath of Nissa is cheap, rarely fails to find something you want, and makes casting your walkers easier early on, which is nice. Oath of Gideon gets you tokens to block with, and the additional loyalty is often more relevant than one might think. Oath of Jace, Oath of Liliana and Oath of Ajani are definitely playable as well, but I think the others are less situational/ do more at their costs, so I tend to stick with those. It's worth noting that all the oaths are legendary, so they do come back with Primevals' Glorious Rebirth.
The Chain Veil is a classic Superfriends card, it's legendary so it comes back with Primevals' Glorious Rebirth and it makes for some insane turns once you have multiple Walkers online, especially if you can untap it, for example with Tezzeret the Seeker (infinite activation combos are possible here). I've heard about people actually cutting it because they find it a bit clunky (don't have one myself yet, so I can't really comment on that), but it's definitely a powerful card.
Settle the Score can be awkward. There is better singletarget removal available and it needs a target in order to uptick your walker. On the other hand, being able to ult a walker out of nowhere can be pretty sweet. Probably not an optimized card, but decent nontheless.
Extra turn spells like Nexus of Fate or Savor the Moment can allow for extra activations on your walker abilities or just win you the game outright if you can build a board of creatures before going into your extra turn and swinging.
The problem I see with your mana acceleration is that most of it is either pretty slow, susceptible to removal, or both. Gyre Sage for example needs you to get counters onto it to be effective and dies to any kind of creature removal (I still like the card when running +1/+1-counter-synergies and a certain amount of creatures, it just doesn't always ramp you very well). Mox Opal requires you to have metalcraft online, something which I found hard early on within a few test-mulligans I did, and the later the game gets, the lower the impact of a 0-Cost Manarock becomes. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chaliceboth need a proliferate or two to really shine. Not to mention, if you are geared toward your friends, they might be teching for you as well, and something like a Vandalblastcould hose your ramp pretty hard.
I'd definitely include some landbased ramp along the lines of Farseek, Rampant Growth, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach or Solemn Simulacrum. It thins your deck, comes down fairly early, fixed your mana and rarely gets removed. If you have green in your identity, that ramp is hard to pass by.
Also, unless it's banned in your playgroup, Sol Ring. It's just really good. Especially if you want cheap artifacts that produce mana.
As Foretold is slow, but can get out of control fast, even more so when paired with proliferate. Definitely a fun card.
Another piece of acceleration that is good on it's own and has proliferate-synergy is Coalition Relic.
Thaumatic Compass Flip is a card i recently started running and I've been loving it so far. It fixes your mana and/or finds you lands if you need that, and it flips into a land that can tap for mana and protect your walkers, while being reasonably hard to destroy itself.
If you untap with Mirari's Wake on the board, the game can often just be over, and the +1/+1 works well both with the tokens from your walkers as well as the creatures that you're still running.
There are quite a few great walkers out there and I won't name them all (you're running quite a few of them already). Generally anything that gives you decent cardadvantage, protects itself (usually by making tokens to block with), or kills something the turn it comes down is fine, anything with a combination of 2 of those on its first two abilities is really good. Ults are a lot more relevant in this deck than in most others, as you actually have a pretty reliable chance of getting them off, but I'd still be careful with running a walker JUST because of it's ult. Run cards that you're happy to draw even without a doubling season on the board.
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is the big bad dragon in the room. It's amazing, it wins games, is colorless so you can play it in other decks, but it's pricey.
Vraska, Relic Seeker is a walker I've grown to love recently. Her tokens are great, her removal hits a lot of things and actually gets you and artifact that somewhat ramps you, and her ult often allows you to just take one opponent out then and there (not to mention the fact that it's actually quite easy to reach her ult even without doubling season, seeing as her first ability is +2).
Elspeth, Knight-Errant is useful early on to make and pump tokens, and in your deciding turns her emblem can allow you to wipe your opponents boards while your creatures survive and swing for lethal. It also protects your board in case you can't finish off all opponents at once and have to let them untap. Vivien Reid does a similar job.
This highly depends on your metagame, but overall I feel like your list is a bit low on sweepers. One of the big upsides of running a lot of walkers is that very few boardwipes hit them, so you can continue to set back your opponents while protecting your walkers and generating value. Cards like Damnation/Wrath of God/Day of Judgment, Cyclonic Rift, Toxic Deluge, Decree of Pain, Merciless Eviction, Descend upon the Sinful, Austere Command, In Garruk's Wake and Phyrexian Scriptures all have their targets and you can run them as you see fit.
Counterspells in EDH are a tricky topic. My playgroup doesn't really run any and I hate playing against them so I don't want to start things, but if you see your big spells getting countered repeatedly, you might want to at least run something along the lines of Swan Song, Counterspell and/or Spell Pierce to protect them. Cards like Mystic Confluence or the more expensive Cryptic Command are great because you can just use their other modes in games where you don't want to counter any spells.
Unlike Ghostly Prison or Propaganda, Norn's Annex actually protects your walkers as well as your face. The problem is that aggro/go wide decks are often happier to pay life than mana, particularly early on.
As you already have Teferi's Protection, arguably the better card, this might be a bit overkill, but Comeuppance can be another emergency button kind of card (and this one can actually sometimes kill your opponent).
Some cards that are either just fun to play or decent on their own in the deck (most of these aren't all that optimized ^^).
Helm of the Host costs a LOT of mana to get it on the board and equipped. If your opponents can then remove it for little cost, it's pretty bad. But if it sticks around for a few turns, it can do insane things. An army of Atraxas (all of which proliferate at the end of turn) alone is amazing, but you can also abuse the effects of other creatures (like Deepglow Skate) or combo this with Gideon of the Trials to make a nonlegendary copy of the walker and an emblem on the same turn, forcing your opponents to deal with both walkers before they can kill you. And if they can't kill both before you untap, you can make another copy. And so on. Also synergises with both Doubling Season for extra tokens as well as Primevals' Glorious Rebirth for being another legendary permanent.
Thief of Sanity has been showing up in our playgroup quite a bit. At worst it's just a 2/2 flyer to block with, at it's best it creates this second hand for you that sticks around even if the thief dies and gives you the option to exile your opponents' best cards and use them against them.
If you want to stick with more of the Artifact- and/or +1/+1-counter-synergies, both Hangarback Walker and Walking Ballista are amazing cards on their own that can take over games once paired with some kind of enabler.
If you want to add to your infect-arsenal, both Ichor Rats and Viral Drake are decent cards to run. Be warned though, quite a few players dislike infect in EDH, and some playgroups even have houserules increasing the number of counters needed to kill someone to 15 or 20.
What to cut: In the end, this comes down to you. There might be subotimal cards that you really enjoy playing even if they don't increase your chances at winning. Or a certain sweet combo might justify running a card that is clunky in a lot of situations (Helm of the Host is definitely such a card for me).
Generally, I'd start with the cards that don't really go with any of your main themes. Stuff like Brago, King Eternal, Muldrotha, the Gravetide, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician or Etrata, the Silencer(proliferating assassination counters doesn't do anything btw, they have to be on different creatures; just in case you missed that). If you really want effects like that in your deck, try to find it on things that work better with your core themes (like Aminatou, the Fateshifter being able to blink important permanents the turn she comes into play and without having to attack, while working with planeswalker synergies, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth allowing you to return most of your core pieces from your graveyard in one big blowout or extra turn spells allowing you to untap permanents while also giving you extra planeswalker activations).
Then, if you want to focus on one theme and cut back on the others, start with those pieces that worst on their own, like Mox Opal doing literally nothing if you don't have Metalcraft turned on, or Corpsejack Menace being a plain 4/4 for 4 if you aren't putting counters on creatures. If you only have cards remaining that work on their own or with little buildaround, keep asking yourself "would I rather have this or something that goes with my core theme". At this point you can just keep trying around, cutting what feels bad to you, adding some stuff, maybe going back if it changes for the worse, but try to keep your bigger picture in mind. Keep enough of the core mechanics (card draw, ramp, removal, proactive plays) and always ask yourself "what does this do in my deck, why is it the best option, what could I be running instead?". The answer to this question can very well be "I like playing it" or "it looks cool" but this keeps you from playing cards in your deck without reason.
Sooo there you have it, my 2 cents (or maybe 20) on Atraxa Superfriends. There are quite a few expensive cards up there that I don't even own myself, so in case you're interested in my current list, you can find that here.
2 weeks ago
Okay so just going through my list here, I can split it into a couple lists: counter producers, counter enhancers, and counter synergies.
Counter producers give +1/+1 counters to things. Among them are Anafenza, the Foremost, Bloodtracker, Chasm Skulker, Daghatar the Adamant, Dragonscale General, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Hangarback Walker, Heroes' Bane, Managorger Hydra, Mikaeus, the Lunarch, Prime Speaker Zegana, Toothy, Imaginary Friend Citadel Siege, Curse of Predation, Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants, Cathars' Crusade, Echoes of the Kin Tree, and finally, arguably the best of this group, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes.
Counter enhancers increase the counters placed on things: Gilder Bairn, Pir, Imaginative Rascal, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Winding Constrictor, Doubling Season, Hardened Scales, Primal Vigor, and Solidarity of Heroes.
Boy oh boy do I hope that's enough to get ya started. There you go.
2 weeks ago
There are a few pieces you might be missing here.
First off, the one oath that you're missing: Oath of Jace
And finally, the planeswalkers you may have missed. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad creates tokens with the + and the ultimate is devastating. For the creatures that you have, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes is insane. Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants does the same thing as Mentor of Heroes, but eventually gives you another kind of token. Aminatou, the Fateshifter and Deepglow Skate. Garruk Wildspeaker is some lovely ramp. Jace Beleren is card draw and can gain you some early-game allies. Jace, Architect of Thought is a little protection for the walkers. Jace, Unraveler of Secrets + is an Opt. Kaya, Ghost Assassin is a nice swiss army knife. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is just the best. Venser, the Sojourner is insane with Deepglow Skate, or if you get Djeru, With Eyes Open it's just the best thing.
2 weeks ago
Okay, so Imma link my deck here but I'm also going to point out some notable exclusions or obvious cuts in yours.
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First, most obvious, lots of pretty lame planeswalkers, and NOT Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. Meren of Clan Nel Toth is clearly just good stuff and should be heading her own deck. Generous Patron is only very good in friendly multiplayer. Retribution of the Ancients is really lack luster.
Okay, now that I'm done with individual cards, on to more overarching problems. You don't have enough synergies to make -1/-1 counters work and infect will probably get you quickly slaughtered (the other players will all gang up and gank you immediately). Also you have no good mana rocks and use mana dorks instead. I see what you're going for here but the drawback is 1) they're stupid easy to removem and 2) they can EITHER attack OR make mana. Sure in the late game that's not so much of a problem, but keep in mind that some games don't go late and it'll hurt you early-on.
Overall your deck is pretty dece, but it feels unfocused, like you were just trying to toss in any kind of counter and playing good stuff rather than having a whole lot of synergy with any specific type of counter.
Sorry about how absurdly long this comment is.
2 months ago
You should be able to make a walker variant, without a lot of trouble, I think keeping in cards that help your walkers ultimate like Deepglow Skate and Inexorable Tide is what you want to keep in, along with ramp and card draw, and countermagic/removal. Otherwise most of the creatures can be dropped for two main types of walkers, and a third minor type:
Type 1: The type that draws cards/makes mana/tutors. This type are along the lines of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, Dovin Baan, Tamiyo, Field Researcher, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Liliana Vess, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, Narset Transcendent, Nissa, Vital Force, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, and Tezzeret the Seeker .
Type 3 would be the type that wins the game, but most do that with the ultimate, so I will skip it.
3 months ago
3 months ago
You may consider adding green to this deck, especially because of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
Other Ajani planeswalkers I think you should consider:
You may also add more Felidar Sovereigns for an easier late-midgame win.
3 months ago
Are you building for FNM or casual? If casual, you could probably get away with any Planeswalker as your Commander.
But if you didn't know, on Aug 10th, 2018 WOTC will be releasing a new Commander set focused on Planeswalkers again.
- AUGUST 10, 2018 Choose your commander and carve your path to victory in this unique multiplayer Magic format. Call on powerful planeswalkers and deploy their signature strategies to make sure you're the last player standing.
It looks like there's only four this time, so chances are very good that we are looking at two-color Planeswalkers minimum. But considering they specifically mention "signature strategies", I'm calling it right now that we will probably be getting at least one three-color 'walker.
Basing this on the fact that the more colors you add, the more strategy you need to win. It's not so blunt and straight-forward anymore.
So, keep this in mind while designing as it's about seven weeks away and it'd really suck for you to design and even buy a deck that might fundamentally change.
Esperfriends focused around control. It's also a vampire tribal. It keeps flexing under local meta shifts but currently it has Jace Beleren, Liliana Vess, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Venser, the Sojourner, Jace, Ingenious Mind-Mage, & Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. It also has a small milling aspect. Either I take control of what you played, or I play it for free from your graveyard. My choice ;)
Nayafriends that I just built.
Selesnyafriends focused on +1/+1 counters and giving everyone a combination of Trample / Flying. I either go over or under everything in my warpath and it's just awesome. This was my first one and doesn't have much. Just a single copy of each: Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, Ajani, Valiant Protector, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Huatli, Radiant Champion, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar and while she's not a Planeswalker it also has Karametra, God of Harvests
I am also currently designing Rakdosfriends, and after that I want to challenge myself with Mardufriends because that's going to be super hard.