Compulsive Research

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3) Uncommon
Commander 2014 (C14) Common
Conspiracy (CNS) Common
Ravnica: City of Guilds (RAV) Common

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Compulsive Research

Sorcery

Target player draws three cards. Then that player discards two cards unless he or she discards a land card.

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Compulsive Research Discussion

SynergyBuild on A Complete Hub Glossary for TappedOut

3 weeks ago

Solar Flare was an old standard Esper control list based on ramp with signets and the like, and existed around kamigawa-ravnica standard, http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/standard/12799_The_History_of_Solar_Flare.html has more info on the topic, but it ran sweepers, big threats, ramp, recursion, counterspells, card draw, and removal, as any normal control list does.

The main threats Solar Flare ran were Angel of Despair, Meloku the Clouded Mirror, Yosei, the Morning Star, and Kokusho, the Evening Star, and had really cool interactions such as using non-land ramp like Dimir Signet in conunctions with karoos like Azorius Chancery to get mana through Hokori, Dust Drinker and used effects that discard like Sift and Compulsive Research along with Zombify.

Some of the countermagic it ran were along the likes of Mana Leak and Remand, it had sweepers like Wrath of God, and removal ranging from Mortify to Condemn, and even ran discard like Persecute. It ran Clutch of the Undercity as removal, burn, and a tutor for Wrath of God, Persecute, Zombify, Sift, Ivory Mask, and Hokori, Dust Drinker, and made it have extreme versatility.

CorrosiveKnifer on Dread Dimir

3 months ago

I'd think the idea of making your opponent draw could be useful. Problem is that in multiplayer you have to discard a card per player to keep the hand control.

Adding: - Psychic Possession: To make it so their draw is your draw. - Compulsive Research: To make them draw/discard more like Wistful Thinking - Abyssal Nocturnus: To benefit from them discarding, Where casting Wistful Thinking gives it a +8/+8 or Compulsive Research a +4/+4. because of its per card. - Abyssal Specter: To add more board presence and discard. - Devastation Tide/Displacement Wave/Evacuation: To gain control of the board to flow back into discarding. - Waste Not: Win condition with discard. - Megrim: Bonus damage per discard. - Shrieking Affliction: WIN CONDITION!

Strangelove on Muldrotha Recursion-Prototype

4 months ago

Definitely needs Wayfarer's Bauble and Voidmage Prodigy.

Move Nezahal, Primal Tide to Draw. The draw makes him good more than anything... Like another Sphinx.

Glacial Chasm Count it as a land and take a land out. Downsides: Requires Muldrotha in play; Pricey Fog that requires players to run MLD or recurring land removal to answer; Probably not fun/healthy. Idk... I would play it competively, but you might regret having it in casuals.

13 Cuts:

  • Yavimaya Elder I bet you the is going to be annoying and he's 5 mana to run. Muldrotha is going to be under a lot of pressure to get things out when she's alive so he's by himself, really, and blue has good draw... so more baubles imo.

  • World Shaper If the gimmick isn't fun, out with him.

  • Ramunap Excavator I think Muldrotha covers both of these and only good if you hit the dinosaur or oracle.

  • Perpetual Timepiece > Dreamborn Muse > Frantic Search. I would pick one. Probably the one that is worth and easy to cast with Muldrotha.
  • Sultai Charm Versatile, but also conditional. I think we just wheel/loot into the removal we need.

So... we have enough cards that are good when Muldrotha is in play. Lets pretend she's dead (indefinitely)...

  • Compulsive Research "Draw 2"
  • Dark Bargain "Draw 2, lose 2 life"
  • Birthing Pod < Sidisi, Undead Vizier < Final Parting cut two of these. Pod needs you to be creature based and to be built around... I think it interferes too much with the plan and is better with Elves and tokens. The latter two are close. Both want Muldrotha in play, but I think fetching Mimeoplasm or Ooze (or Dark Depths/Hexmage!) with Parting is stronger and less conditional. I love Sidisi though ;(
  • Swan Song and/or Pact of Negation Negation is better if you have lots of counterspells or have to storm. If someone can tap your lands, gg. Sub in Voidmage Prodigy (same thing but reusable).
  • Vedalken Orrery I don't think its worth when it doesn't interact with Muldrotha. You're running ramp and, again, not a lot of counterspells so you can just leave the mana open and spend it elsewhere instead of dumping into Orrery.

Also consider subbing more enchantment removal just to even the slots.

FancyTuesday on Flashing Your Way To Victory

4 months ago

For starters, if you're playing blue and want cards you play Consecrated Sphinx. Your commander's only text could be "every time there's a sphinx destroy it" and you'd still run Consecrated Sphinx, it's that good.

Thirst for Knowledge and Compulsive Research are your best value straight draw spells in the vein of Divination and Brilliant Plan.

If you're running Leonin Abunas you can straight upgrade to Padeem, Consul of Innovation or run both if you really find the effect helpful. Spellskite has a similar function and can be flashed in.

Bident of Thassa and Thopter Spy Network are both worthy of consideration if you like Thieving Magpie.

This deck is pretty light on recursion. I find Memory Jar is an absolute monster, but I dunno if Junk Diver and Hanna are gonna cut it. Something to consider if you ever find yourself running more cards that could bring it or the cards it pitches back from the graveyard.

Gypsyhatten on Tasigur - Sassy Tassys banana bonanza

5 months ago
Sakura-Tribe Elder - Great ramp if you have any creature synergy/reanimation, good ramp even if you don't since it can chump block.

Coiling Oracle - Not always ramp, but always replaces itself in terms of card advantage. Compare it to an Elvish Visionary or a Baleful Strix that are good in the first place and you'll notice that even if it isn't guaranteed ramp, it's still a gamble that's worth it.

Cultivate/Kodama's Reach - Best allrounder ramp in the entire format. Card advantage compared to Rampant Growth, comes out a turn earlier compared to Explosive Vegetation.

Farseek - Great colorfixing when you have dual lands, and you want a couple of CMC2 ramp to get the ball rolling.

Nature's Lore - You need shocks for this to be worth it in a three-color deck, otherwise it's too inconsistent for colorfixing.

Hour of Promise - Pay 1 more than Explosive Vegetation and you can fetch Cabal Coffers+Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth or Dark Depths+Thespian's Stage in one go, definitely worth it.

Deathrite Shaman - One of the best manadorks available if you have fetches and/or you run self-mill, since it ramps you in the early game and can grave hate in the late game.

Chromatic Lantern - You don't need a lot of mana rocks when you're in green, but this one's utility is good enough when you're 3+ colors. Can help with activating Tasigur, the Golden Fang more, especially when you have Training Grounds out and colored mana is the limiting factor.

Commander's Sphere - Again with mana rocks in green, but the ability to replace itself for free is strong and makes it a better card to get back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang.

Harrow - Instant speed ramp is good if you want to save mana for counterspells/removal, and land sacrifice is good for self-mill/recursion synergies.

Realms Uncharted - Technically not ramp but it's both card advantage and dumping stuff into the graveyard, while fetching your 4 strongest lands and forcing your opponent to choose between bad and worse.

Fork in the Road - Not land ramp, not very impactful, but dumping stuff into the graveyard while colorfixing ain't too bad. Maybe a bit sad to get this one back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability, but that's what delve is for.

Exploration - It's ramp that requires you to have a lot of card draw or things like Crucible of Worlds and Oracle of Mul Daya, but can lead to stupidly fast starts of dumping your hand and recovering with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability. Definitely stronger than Burgeoning.

Wayward Swordtooth - Exploration on legs. It's no Azusa, Lost but Seeking but it's still good.

Ramunap Excavator - Crucible of Worlds on legs and affordable, a must-have when you self-mill.

World Shaper - Splendid Reclamation when it dies, self-mill in the meantime.

Greenwarden of Murasa - Fat Eternal Witness that can do it twice when necessary.

Animate Dead - One of the best reanimation spells in the game by far.

Victimize - Even if you're not focused on reanimation, getting back 2 creatures for only 3 mana and something to sacrifice is very often worth it. The more self-mill you have, the more targets you get.

Regrowth - The original Eternal Witness which is cheaper but less abusable. Very good in conjunction with Tasigur, the Golden Fang since you can force your opponent to choose between the things you want or Regrowth which lets you get what you want.

Seasons Past - Card advantage recursion, very good in general and even better when self-milling to give yourself lots of choices.

Grapple with the Past - Instant speed recursion for 2 that also dumps stuff into your graveyard.

Sudden Reclamation - Grapple with the Past's big brother which gives you card advantage as long as you have two things to return.

Nyx Weaver - Not an amazing creature, but can be dropped early as a blocker and some slow value self-mill only to be used as recursion in the late game.

Dig Through Time - Stupidly good card selection and also card advantage, absurd when you get to cast it for 2 which should be often with self-mill.

Fact or Fiction - Drawing the best 1-4 cards out of your top 5 at instant speed for 4 mana is makes this one of the best cards for one-off card draw, especially when the rest end up in your graveyard for delve/recursion.

Treasure Cruise - Not quite on the level of Dig Through Time, but drawing 3 cards for 1 mana is still absurd.

Sire of Stagnation - Very powerful creature to get out early, not quite on the level of Consecrated Sphinx but still worth running.

Nezahal, Primal Tide - Mystic Remora except big. CMC7 is a bit much, but can get crazy if it gets to stick.

Notion Thief - Perfect asshole card to take over the game with, won't be very telegraphed either since your opponents might assume that you're saving mana for Tasigur, the Golden Fang.

Baleful Strix - Only replaces itself in terms of card draw, but a flying deathtouch blocker for 2 mana is a very annoying deterrent.

Mulldrifter - If you evoke it, it's a Divination that can be reanimated. If you hardcast it, it can be cloned or chump block.

Windfall - Very good card advantage if your game plan is to dump your hand such as with Burgeoning and Exploration effects and fills up your graveyard with the things you discard, but risky since it can help opponents with draw/recursion/reanimation.

Whispering Madness - Extra copy of Windfall if you want one. Cipher can be good if you have stupid amounts of mana for dumping your hand, but not worth one more mana if you're deciding between this or Windfall.

Necropotence - Not great in 3+ colors where it gets hard to cast and not really necessary when you have blue, but still stupidly good with enough life and mana.

The Gitrog Monster - Very strong draw engine since he triggers off of sacrifice, discard and mill. Also a 6/6 deathtouch for 5.

Pull from Tomorrow/Stroke of Genius/Blue Sun's Zenith - Lots of card draw if you have lots of mana, great when you're ramping hard and dumping your hand. Pull from Tomorrow is the best one for card draw because it digs one deeper, but the other two can mill someone to death with enough mana.

Painful Truths - Not entirely necessary when you're blue, but it's still 3 cards for 3 mana. You can't find that level of efficiency in blue without delve or draw engines like Consecrated Sphinx.

Search for Azcanta  Flip - Cheap and easy card filtering that later flips into a land that can provide card advantage. Land ability might brick with your deck but it's still pretty good.

Taigam, Sidisi's Hand - CMC5 and needs a turn to do anything is not great, but the filtering and creature removal is alright if he survives.

Lim-Dl's Vault - Incredibly good card selection. It's card disadvantage in itself but you can easily dig through your library until you get a pile that gives you card advantage plus playable cards.

Ponder/Preordain - Basic card selection, a bit boring but still good. They're never bad to get back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang, even though they're not quite as good as Brainstorm.

Opt - Mostly worse than Ponder and Preordain, but at least you can use it immediately if you get it through Tasigur, the Golden Fang.

Sensei's Divining Top - One of the best cards for card selection. Use its first ability before using Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability to help force certain cards into your hand, then use the first ability again to dig even deeper into your library.

Sylvan Library - Very good card for card selection, becomes stupidly good with lifegain and/or fetches for shuffling.

Grisly Salvage - Cheap and instant way to get stuff into your graveyard for delving and reanimating and stuff. Not bad to get back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang since it's instant speed.

Satyr Wayfinder - Cheap way to get stuff into your graveyard, sorcery speed but creatures are more abusable than instants/sorceries.

Mulch - Satyr Wayfinder in sorcery form except you can get multiple lands if you're lucky.

Compulsive Research - Great source of card selection since 1. you get to draw before discarding, 2. you can discard anything from your hand, not just from the three you drew, 3. it can be card advantage if you discard the right thing.

Thirst for Knowledge - Like Compulsive Research except a lot better because it's instant speed, and slightly worse because you'll have more opportunity to discard and recur lands compared to artifacts.

Reality Shift - Not a lot of exile in your colors, and this is by far the cheapest effect.

Beast Within - Can target anything, so one of the best pieces of spot removal in the format.

Sultai Charm - Very flexible removal or decent card filtering, one of the best charms available.

Putrefy - Not quite the level of flexibility as Anguished Unmaking or Beast Within, but still decent.

Reclamation Sage - Removal on legsthat can chump block, be cloned, reanimated etc.

Krosan Grip - Very strong removal, can't be countered and can stop problem cards like Oblivion Stone and Necropotence.

Murderous Cut - Creature removal for 1 is very good, as long as you have enough stuff to delve away.

Abrupt Decay - Slightly too restrictive in commander unless you play in a combo heavy meta, but still worth considering.

Nature's Claim - Removal for 1 is very very good. It's arguable whether this or Krosan Grip is better if you can only choose one.

Rapid Hybridization/Pongify - Unconditional creature removal for 1 mana doesn't exist outside of Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile and these two. Incredibly strong.

Maelstrom Pulse - Sorcery speed makes this a worse Beast Within, but it's still very good and can sometimes help against a horde of tokens.

Tetzimoc, Primal Death - Not very good, but pretty fun and good value if you have a lot of mana.

Vraska the Unseen - Unconditional removal: good. Sorcery speed for 5 mana: bad. Planeswalker with 2 loyalty left after you removed something: not great, but fun.

Scavenging Ooze - Targeted grave hate for cheap is great.

Toxic Deluge - The best creature board wipe in the format, bar none.

Pernicious Deed - One of the best board wipes in your colors. Can be asymmetrical if you have the most expensive stuff, can kill tokens for 0, can hold the table hostage by waiting with blowing it up.

Decree of Pain - CMC8 makes this not great, but the card draw makes it worth considering. Cycling is also good as an instant speed uncounterable board wipe against early aggro.

Gaze of Granite - Pernicious Deed in sorcery form, less abusable but still good enough if you want to board wipe.

Arcane Denial - Top 5 counterspell because it's cheap and unconditional. The card draw is normally bad in 1v1, but in multiplayer it becomes a much better deal for you.

Negate/Countersquall - Top 5 counterspells because they're cheap and can target a lot.

Spell Swindle/Plasm Capture - Very expensive for counterspells, but your commander is a mana dump so getting extra mana can swing a game in your favor.

Muddle the Mixture - Won't be used as a counterspell that often, mostly playable because you can transmute for Cyclonic Rift.

Voidslime/Disallow - Counterspells for 3 are generally suboptimal, but being able to counter abilities can blow someone out real hard when they don't expect it.

Stubborn Denial - Better than Swan Song (which is great) as long as you have ferocious. Playable because your commander has 4 power.

Training Grounds - Mandatory for Tasigur, the Golden Fang, perfect fit for the deck.

Torment of Hailfire - Generic big mana wincon, can still be pretty painful even if you don't cast it for X=lots.

Crop Rotation - Card disadvantage since you sacrifice a land, but being able to fetch any utility land at instant speed for 1 is crazy for potential. Bojuka Bog, Tectonic Edge, Alchemist's Refuge, Cabal Coffers/Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Thespian's Stage etc. Can compensate for the card disadvantage while colorfixing with Myriad Landscape/Blighted Woodland.

Phantasmal Image/Phyrexian Metamorph - Among the best clones if you want to use clones.

Body Double/Vizier of Many Faces - Among the best clones if you want to use clones, especially so with self-mill.

As Foretold - Not a very good card, but it's pretty fun to use if you get the ball rolling, especially since you can spend any extra mana on your commander once you get to freecast spells. Even better with cheap instants.

Propaganda - Generic protection, both against token decks and to avoid becoming the path of least resistance in multiplayer.

Isochron Scepter - Absurd value with stuff like Brainstorm, absurdly annoying with counterspells. It runs a fairly high risk of being a dead card in your hand though, since you won't be running lots of CMC<=2 instants. Very sad to get from Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability with an empty hand.

Faerie Artisans - Relatively underrated card. You get the ETBs of anything your opponents cast/flicker/reanimate/etc. plus a chump blocker/attacker of varying quality.

Mirage Mirror - Incredibly strong card, even though it may not look like it at first glance. Copy a Cabal Coffers/Zendikar Resurgent for lots of mana, copy creatures like Arcanis the Omnipotent/Etali, Primal Storm and you get to tap/attack immediately as long as the artifact has been in play for a turn, copy creatures like Oracle of Mul Daya/Kess, Dissident Mage and get cheap value, scare off attackers by saying "I can copy the biggest dude on the board and block you", dodge removal/board wipes by copying a land etc. Extra fun if you run Dark Depths.

Avenger of Zendikar - Generic wincon, but still a very good wincon.

Exsanguinate - Generic big mana wincon, can save you from an early aggro death even if you don't cast it for X=lots.

Telepathy - Not a good card, but it's pretty fun for politics and mind games.

Dulcet Sirens - Not very good for protection compared to a Propaganda, but it's pretty fun for politics and mind games.

Curse of the Cabal - Not very good, but suspended it's pretty fun for politics and mind games and with Cabal Coffers you can hardcast it lategame to finish off a player.

Assault Suit - Kind of fun multiplayer card, but not very good since your opponents aren't forced to attack with the equipped creature. Can cause some funny commander damage blowouts if your politics game is strong.

Psychosis Crawler - Generic but slow wincon, decent creature to clone.

Dark Depths - If you're already running support cards for Cabal Coffers, you have most of the stuff for a decent Dark Depths package like land tutors and Thespian's Stage (plus Marit Lage is cool). Throw in a Vampire Hexmage for a potential turn 3 20/20 to really set the pace of the game.

Dead Man's Chest - Not very good since it can get stopped in a lot of ways, but can be very fun if it gets to resolve, similar to Villainous Wealth and Gonti, Lord of Luxury.

Ash Barrens - Better than Terramorphic Expanse/Evolving Wilds in 99% of cases.

Fetid Pools - Great for fetching with Farseeketc., otherwise meh. Doesn't exist in your other colors yet.

Sunken Hollow - Great for fetching with Farseek etc., otherwise still pretty good. Doesn't exist in your other colors yet.

Hinterland Harbor/Woodland Cemetery - Checklands are great and not that expensive, and stay great even as your manabase improves. These two will get reprints in Dominaria, might want to wait for them.

Temple of Malady - The last scryland, you have the other two.

Mana Confluence/City of Brass - Great in 3+ colors, the lifeloss is negligible compared to being able to play your cards.

Cephalid Coliseum - Good for card filtering late game, comes in untapped early.

Choked Estuary - Not the best cycle of lands, but at least it's better than lands that always come in tapped. Doesn't exist in your other colors yet.

Path of Ancestry - Strictly better than Opulent Palace, both are worth running in a budget manabase.

Dimir Guildgate/Dismal Backwater/Foul Orchard - Lands that always come in tapped need a big upside to justify themselves.

Golgari Rot Farm/Simic Growth Chamber - These are not that bad budget lands since they give you virtual card advantage at the cost of speed, but having three of them in a three-color can sometimes be too slow and awkward. If you want to keep them, then buy Dimir Aqueduct.

Halimar Depths - I would not use this over a basic land in your deck because you don't have lots of lands to find with your ramp, and the upside is not big enough for a tapped land that only produces one color.

Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse - These are a bit slow but they're good for colorfixing and they're great for Ramunap Excavator and Splendid Reclamation, as long as you have enough basics in your library.

Lumbering Falls - Manlands are not really worth it in commander unless you're have a lot of equipment, combat damage triggers or creature sacrifice.

Reliquary Tower - This is not a definite cut, but you don't want too many colorless lands in a three-color deck. Reliquary Tower is only necessary if you have lots of card draw and very little graveyard interaction, but since you have plenty of graveyard recursion, you should be fine without it.

Tectonic Edge - It's a good card, but I prefer using Ghost Quarter because you don't need to have any mana ready to be able to use it. Wasteland and Strip Mine are both strictly better, but expensive.

Temple of the False God - Not that great in three-color decks.

Jace, Memory Adept - Milling opponents with this guy is stupid, milling yourself is kind of decent but at 5 mana it's bad.

Kiora, the Crashing Wave - If you want it for the -1 (which is pretty good), just run Explore instead. Using it for the ultimate is stupid since your opponents have 3 turns to handle it and you're not getting any value from the +1.

Tamiyo, the Moon Sage - The -2 is not the worst, but at 5 mana and when you're blue it's not really worth it. Same as with Kiora, the Crashing Wave, you will never reach the ultimate against competent players and the +1 doesn't really give you any value. This one's worth some money, so sell it and buy better cards.

Archfiend of Depravity - The effect is not terrible but in practice it's less impactful than it seems. You can usually play around the ability or remove the creature if it's a huge problem.

Beastcaller Savant/Deathcap Cultivator/Elves of Deep Shadow - This deck has no reason running mana dorks other than Birds of Paradise and Deathrite Shaman, at most. Elves of Deep Shadow is not awful since it's 1 mana and colorfixes, but still not worth it.

Dimir Doppelganger - The main advantage to clones is that you can abuse strong ETBs, which this clone can't. Decent if you're two colors, not really if you're three.

Edric, Spymaster of Trest - This guy will more often enable your opponents than it will help you. Terrible card unless you're spamming tokens.

Forgotten Creation - Dumping cards into the graveyard is not bad, but CMC4, only in upkeep and discarding before drawing is awful.

Kruphix, God of Horizons - You need a lot of big mana dumps or a draw/go playstyle to justify using Kruphix, God of Horizons. Your commander is a mana dump but your limiting factor is going to be colored mana.

Solemn Simulacrum - Not awful, but there are better alternatives for ramp when you're in green. Could be worth keeping if you run a lot of clones for slightly better value compared to something like Wood Elves or Cultivate.

Torrent Elemental - Can blow out an opponent when you have a big board, but is very telegraphed and isn't very impactful on its own. Use Pathbreaker Ibex if you want better blowouts. The exile ability isn't great even if you delve him away, since you're still casting a mediocre creature for 5 mana.

Yahenni, Undying Partisan - Good when your deck is based around sacrifice and reanimation, but very out of place here.

Bounty of the Luxa - Slow ramp or slow card draw, but you can't choose which one you need right now. Better to use proper ramp and proper draw spells instead.

Deadbridge Chant - You can keep this if you like it because it's pretty fun. However, the random aspect and lack of impact until your upkeep is a bit too unreliable for 6 mana.

Cancel - There are plenty of strictly better counterspells such as Disallow and Void Shatter.

Domineering Will - Just a shitty Reins of Power. You can use Reins of Power if you want, but it has a tendency to cause some very unsatisfactory game ending plays.

Perplex - Cards that give the opponent the final choice are generally bad, and this one isn't even good for its mana cost.

Spell Pierce - Good in faster combo-heavy metas, but not quite reliable enough in slower metas.

Unravel the Aether - This card is actually very good since it ignore indestructible, but it's worth considering if you'd rather have Nature's Claim for the mana cost or Krosan Grip for the utility, since I don't think you have room for all three in the deck.

In Garruk's Wake - Good card when you have the mana to use it, but 9 mana is a lot.

Increasing Ambition - I generally recommend against using tutors since games become very samey with them, but even then there are a lot of better tutors out there than this one.

Praetor's Grasp - Not as fun as Gonti, Lord of Luxury since looking at top 4 is more exciting than picking the best card for the situation, not as flexible either since you need the correct colors to cast things.

Serum Visions - Strictly worse than Ponder/Preordain, but it's not awful if you already run both of those.

Tempt with Discovery - Works against bad players, but against competent players you'll just have your Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth get removed by a Ghost Quarter. Use Hour of Promise instead.

Dimir Signet/Golgari Signet/Simic Signet - Signets are good since they're cheap, can be used immediately and colorfix you, but in a slower meta they're prone to get board wiped away compared to land ramp, so they're not that great when you're green.

Gilded Lotus - People generally don't use spot removal on mana rocks, but the big and efficent ones like Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo sometimes do. You can use the mana immediately, but otherwise it's not much better than an Explosive Vegetation.

Daedalus19876 on Un-FLICKING-believable!!!!!!!!!!

6 months ago

hoardofnotions: Personally, I really like Compulsive Research, because I suspect you will not hit Ascend until the late-game, and it digs deeper than Secrets of the Golden City (with less color commitment) for a counter etc when you really need one.

Of the expensive cards you listed, I don't think that Rite of Replication will do enough to justify its inclusion, personally. I might actually swap Panharmonicon in, TBH. Beyond that, I'm unsure on Phyrexian Reclamation here, but that would require playtesting...

Again, great deck! I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of my decks as well if you have a moment :)

hoardofnotions on Un-FLICKING-believable!!!!!!!!!!

6 months ago

Daedalus19876 Thanks for the suggestions and upvote!

With regard to your suggestions about mass removal, Extinguish All Hope is much worse than both your suggestions but it's also like 300% cheaper for a similar effect. I also have a fair amount of spot removal to contain people till Thrax can start edicting them.

I'm still hoping for the day my Gonti, Lord of Luxury hits an opponents Rhystic Study and I get to play $10 cards in my budget deck lol.

Do you think Compulsive Research is better than Secrets of the Golden City? I rarely want to discard lands and hitting a land drop every turn is kinda like grixis's version of mana ramp. I'm still going back and forth about taking out Sign in Blood for secrets.

Duplicant I don't think is that much better than Noxious Gearhulk, life gain is relevant most times and if i need to exile something i can usually be tricky about it and get it done.

Right now i have 5 cards in the deck that cost more than $2. Phyrexian Reclamation, Noxious Gearhulk, Sol Ring, Draining Whelk and Rite of Replication. Do you think any of these cards aren't pulling the (dollar) weight?

I really appreciate your thoughts and would be interested in debating some card choices with you!!

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