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Creature — Elf Druid
Tap: Untap two target lands.
Argothian Elder Discussion
4 days ago
I'm currently making an Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle deck myself and i'm running a lot of untap cards ( Argothian Elder , Krosan Restorer , Pemmin's Aura , Freed from the Real and Counter removal cards ( Power Conduit , Clockspinning , and Chisei, Heart of Oceans .
Shimmering Wings can be cast as many times as you have 2 blue mana and has the added benefit of giving your creature flying.
1 week ago
Speaking of her first ability, you may want some sacrifice outlets in order to get rid of Nikya once you draw a win condition like Primal Surge or Tooth and Nail. Bloodshot Cyclops is one hilarious way to do it, and there's also good old High Market
You really aren't running that many centaurs or druids, so losing tempo by having Path of Ancestry come in tapped isn't that worth it. A good replacement might be Ancient Ziggurat because you don't care about noncreature spells that much
2 weeks ago
So you attack with Argothian Elder . Use Maze of Ith to untap it. Use Elder's ability to untap Maze and a land. Since Elder is still attacking use Maze to untap it up. Loop for infinite mana in combat, so infinite Ezuri activation.
2 weeks ago
Horseshoe Crab , Vigean Graftmage , Pili-Pala , Simic Ragworm , Knacksaw Clique , and Soliton are a bunch of untap effects you can run. Combine them with anything that produces multiple mana, Gyre Sage , Karametra's Acolyte , Argothian Elder , Marwyn, the Nurturer , Viridian Joiner , Incubation Druid , Gyre Engineer , or Elvish Aberration and you have infinite mana.
1 month ago
I mean, Strip Mine and Wasteland are staple inclusions in pretty much any deck, but if you really think the manabase is that weak then fair enough.
I suppose the deck really does run too many pillow-fort effects, but, yes, I tend to play in metas with lots of creatures, so I tend to think that having a wipe suite (unless you're playing mono-green or something) is effectively a necessity.
Also, what's wrong with Command Beacon, exactly? I suppose if you're just really looking for lands to axe, fine, but it's not a weak card in and of itself--at least when your commander is better than Daxos.
I also completely forgot that Porphyry Nodes was a card, honestly. Otherwise, it'd be in there.
Your full list of replacements would make it to where we're playing a lot fewer enchantments, but I suppose Daxos isn't that great anyway, so, whatever. I'm honestly not sure if making that deck would qualify Daxos for tier 3, frankly, as it's more the deck than the commander or any synergy he has with it that's any good, but, whatever. I'm at least proud of how the mana curve in that deck is basically perfect, which is something your suggestions mess with slightly, but I suppose that doesn't really matter.
I just built that deck as an experiment, so I don't really care about it too much. Here, on the other hand, is a deck I've actually played extensively and have been tuning ever since I first made it:
Begin The Hymns. It's a Seton, Krosan Protector deck, and when I originally made it and shared it here, he was a very rogue af commander who was tier 4 or 5, but he got moved up to tier 3 after that point. The deck hasn't changed much since then, and I don't think I'm arguing for it to be moved up to tier 2 (the only mono-green commander in tier 2 is Selvala, Heart of the Wilds , and I'm assuming that's because she's draw in addition to ramp), but I would like to point out that Seton is perhaps the fastest mono-green ramp commander in the format. His ability effectively gives every druid in the deck haste (though, many of them have better abilities of their own), making him much faster than Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Omnath, Locus of Mana , and even Selvala (though she's probably still better).
At times, it's practically a storm deck--I've played some very interesting lines with it before. One time, my last opponent almost had me hard-locked by being able to recur Pernicious Deed and Liliana of the Veil with Doubling Season on the board thanks to Muldrotha, the Gravetide , and I believe what happened was I drew and played Green Sun's Zenith , got Eternal Witness , she got back Natural Order , I cast Natural Order getting Grave Sifter to get back all of the druids he'd previously wiped, then, with my remaining mana, I cast Aluren , then went off and killed him that turn (I had Zendikar Resurgent on the battlefield, hence why I had the mana for all that in the first place). I've cast Genesis Wave for 55 on turn 6 before thanks to Gaea's Cradle , Voyaging Satyr , Argothian Elder , and Vitalize . Yes, the deck dies to boardwipes (especially instant-speed ones) and counterspells, but it's surprisingly resilient, and also quite redundant, provided my opponents don't follow up by slamming some stax effect (which they probably would).
2 months ago
Without knowing your budget and builds, it's hard to say. Obviously Gaea's Cradle fits nicely in about any mono green deck, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's worth the price tag. Wirewood Lodge is good if you're running elves and it can make an infinite mana combo with Argothian Elder and any way of producing multiple mana from a single land. Mosswort Bridge can be pretty solid in most green decks and it's pretty cheap, so you'll probably want that I guess?
2 months ago
@griffstick: Very well. Those would' e been the ones I wanted help more so with anyway. I'll handle the rest from here then...
Kruphix in this deck uses X-Spells, & can make infinite combos via stuff like Argothian Elder/Ley Weaver + Maze of Ith + another Land. Although I dun get how a Two mana card is important for Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth ; couldn't one just pay with Monolith to get , pay to untap Monolith, & just keep up the combo one at a time? Obviously I was trying to look for 2 card combos, though some seem wonky...
Lazav 2.0 is about using creatures w/ 5 CMC at most in the yard for ridiculous effects. Question, would Evil Twin bypass the cause that Lazav is still Lazav, & can yard opposing creatures freely? Also, what about the Myriad Creatures? Do their Myriad attacking have CMDR Damage? I'm thinking not, but It would be badass if Lazav can one shot everyone. Xd
As for Melek, it's just a Spellslinger Deck utilizing copying instants & sorceries. But the Cantrips previously in are part of the problem of how I'm trying to cut some stuff... Even SynergyBuild has problems w/ this. I'll explore my options...
The last one mentioned was Kozilek 2.0. Sadly I'm unsure how everyone can just say the competitive meter is a scam. There is hope for improvement, but maybe as an artifact deck, maybe Mycosynth Golem is a start? I'll find someone for this later...
Since you chose to help w/ the former two, I'll have to find someone for the rest. BTW: thanks for all the help, sir. Shame I myself started in Scars of Mirrodin times. I literally am a n00b w/ such research compared to those who've been around at least even since Post-6th Edition. Just a heads up... ;/
Good luck though. :)
3 months ago
Argothian Elder occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%