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Yisan, the Wanderer Bard
Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
, , Put a verse counter on Yisan, the Wanderer Bard: Search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost equal to the number of verse counters on Yisan, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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Yisan, the Wanderer Bard Discussion
15 hours ago
Why would it be banned? I guess if your playgroup does the banning you can just fetch Yisan, the Wanderer Bard and use a line with him and cards like Wirewood Symbiote, Priest of Titania, and Mirror Entity to generate infinite mana and pump.
1 week ago
Commander / EDH*
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1 week ago
I haven't played many games with it, but so far the deck can do a lot of damage out of nowhere thanks to Yisan, the Wanderer Bard tutoring for lords at instant speed and Samut mass haste. If your budget allows, I would definitely play Vedalken Orrery,Grand Abolisherand Ethersworn Canonist as they are much better at controlling the number of spells played than some of my current lock piece.
1 week ago
Wait... why no Yisan, the Wanderer Bard it is so much value and card advantage in your deck.. It is like if Birthing Pod didn't need to sacrifice creatures at the cost of a little mana and a bit more vulnerability.
2 weeks ago
I think Yisan, the Wanderer Bard should be replaced with Chord of Calling. Chord of Calling with an Eternal Witness is an instant speed win condition at 15 mana that can be split into 2 turns. It works around Rule of Law effects even better than Yisan, the Wanderer Bard in my opinion and can be used to achieve value faster than Yisan, the Wanderer Bard can. Yisan, the Wanderer Bard takes 6 mana to get a 1 drop over 2 turns, Chord of Calling can get a 3 drop for the same amount of mana.
2 weeks ago
Hello, I have rebuilt your deck and I am very excited. I love your deck.
In addition, I made a few small changes:
+Arbor Elf (can also untap Savannah or Temple Garden), -Selesnya Signet (Much artifact-hate in the deck: Null Rod, Kataki, War's Wage, Stony Silence...So i think, the creature is better, than the artifact)
What do you think?
2 weeks ago
StopShot: Sorry about the delayed response. I appreciate the thought that went into the comment and wanted to respond in kind.
So to start off (and I will bounce around with your suggestions to group them by function a bit) I will cover Kami of False Hope. I run Spore Frog as a bit of a niche card, but generally I don't deal much with combat decks. It's in there on the odd chance that I do, but most of my meta is full of infinite combo and I don't want to take up extra card spaces for a card which isn't going to add much value 99% of the time. Generally I can win faster than most beatdown decks can assemble and if I see them coming I can either use Yisan, GSZ, Chord or any other creature tutor to get frog. On the topic of Maze of Ith, I'm not overly a fan of the card personally. It's ok but I play a lot of combo and agin don't play against beatdown decks. It's ok in pillowfort lists, but I would rather a land that taps for mana. In this light, Urban Burgeoning isn't great, but if I ran it I would prioritise it on lands like Mikokoro, Center of the Sea or Gaea's Cradle. Don't get me worng, it's not a bad interaction, but it just feels like a lot of effort for not much value. And I would much rather find Skullclamp with Open the Armory. Divine Presence and Ensnaring Bridge kind if fit into the same category here, it's a lot of combat step prvention where my play group doesn't need it and more than that, most combo decks will have either an out that doesn't require attacking or an out that ends up with me having no permanents on the board, only to connect next turn.
There is always an issue with playing pillowfort cards in that they are proactive cards, but they only really stop an opponent from doing stuff to you. This means that you're expending resources on cards that don't in turn actively slow opponents down the way true stax would, which is not a plce you want to be in, For more casual play this is fine, but for games which the deck is designed for it is just a waste of turns and resources.
Authority of the Consuls is an interesting card. it is good at shuitting down a few combos, but it feels a bit too niche in this particular build. If this was a more staxcy build it would probably be quite at home here, however as a singleton stax card I would prefer Blind Obedience as I can use it as a combo outlet as well.
On the point of wraths, it's the same kind of thing as with Kami of False Hope. I don't want to clutter up my hand with a bunch of removal (especially redundant removal) that also puts me back a heap. I would rather run a bunch of cheap, single point removal which I can use to deal with key threats than to clear the board (whcih can lead to an opponent comboing out of the blue). Because sometimes stax cards are better in play, shutting down my opponent. And I like Wrath of God because it's a cheap catch all. Cards like Slaughter the Strong and Citywide Bust are nice because of their cost, however they miss a lot of key creatures. In more competitive games, the majority of creatures you see are a lot smaller (because larger creatures generally have prohibitive mana costs) and if you're going to the effort of wrathing you would rather just hit everything. I used to run Rout before I ran Wrath of God and while it is more expensive than Day of Judgment I think it would be my next goto, especially since it has instant speed mode which is in a lot of ways more valuable than just a second wrath.
For spot removal, you're right in that swords and path play centre stage. I have tried to run primarily instant speed removal to deal with other combo decks/being able to wait to the last second to break free and combo out myself. Darksteel Mutation isn't bad but my problem with it is slot space. I run Song of the Dryads which is basically a better version under most circumstances (as it hits more). If I needed more removal, mutation is the kind of card which could work its way into the deck however I do need to be careful not to flood the deck with removal (for the same reason as with pillowfort cards). Soul Snare and Condemn are both cheap to cast, however they only work when a creature is attacking. That is enough of a drawback to not run them.
I used to run Qasali Pridemage but in this list I cut it for Caustic Caterpillar. While you need to have 2 open for caterpillar, you can fetch it on turn one with Yisan, the Wanderer Bard which is super good. Don't get me wrong though, if I ever need more artifact/enchantment removal, it will be the first card to go back in. Seal of Cleansing and Seal of Primordium are less good versions of pridemage (creatures are easy to find) and Thrashing Brontodon/Sylvok Replica, while good, are too expensive as you spend 4 mana total to remove something.
I've seen the Scroll Rack + Land Tax combo before and have considered it in the past, but ultimately passed up on it. My problem with the combo is that neither of the pieces provide the card advantage the deck needs separately and while together they are quite strong, the deck lacks the ability to assemble said combo. On top of that, any artifact/enchantment tutors are better suited getting me direct win con lines rather than assembling value pieces. And while I can shuffle my deck with fetch lands, it's still not as consistent as you might think. Blinkmoth Nexus + Mask of Memory is a cute little package, however I have tried to focus on raw card advantage (i.e. cards that outright draw cards). And the value engines I do run are based off individual cards which add enough to the deck outside of those loops. Mirri's Guile has caught my attention on occasion, however ultimately I decided against it since it doesn't actually provide card advantage. And Sylvan Library and Sensei's Divining Top are bother better.
I hope this explains the card choices in the deck and while I have avoided running certain pieces. Don't get me wrong, the cards you have suggested aren't bad and some of the cards and card combos you've mentioned I might commandeer for some other decks (I like the Mask of Memory + Blinkmoth Nexus loop for canadian highlander) however for this particluar list and given my playgroup I have to be very specific on choices. But I appreciate the suggestions, they always force me to evaluate the deck and the particular choices I have made for it.
Grandmaster5327: I'm glad you like the list. The core of the deck isn't too expensive (minus the Phyrexian Altar) however a lot of the cost is sunk in the mana base and some specific cards (Survival of the Fittest, Mana Crypt, etc.). If you replaced these with some omre budget options, the overall price could be brought down much lower. While I haven't specifically put together a budget list, I am confident that you could get the deck down to the $300-$400 mark, which is a 5-6 fold reduction in price.
3 weeks ago
You are understanding incorrectly. The stack is used when you cast spells or activate/trigger abilities. Casting a spell is the process of putting the card from one Zone (usually your Hand), putting the card on the Stack (a separate zone), and then the spell resolving and being put into the appropriate zone (Battlefield for non-land permanents; graveyard for instants/sorceries; lands don't use the stack, and just go to the battlefield).
Cards like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard that say "put it onto the battlefield" move the card directly from one zone to the Battlefield without it ever entering the Stack Zone.
Compare to a card like Bring to Light. Bring to Light moves the card from the Library to Exile, and then allows you to cast the card for free as part of the resolution. This would make the card a spell, as it is being cast and put onto the stack.