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(3), Tap: Search your library for an Elf permanent card and put that card into play. Then shuffle your library.
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Skyshroud Poacher Discussion
3 months ago
Nice deck. +1. With the amount of creatures you're running have you thought about using Paradox Engine and Beast Whisperer. You could also use Thousand-Year Elixir to get this running faster, especially with Yeva as your commander. These combo so well to get you pretty much playing all your creatures in everyones turns. Also Skyshroud Poacher is such a powerful card in an elf deck. Feel free to have a look at mine Elf Rumble!!!. Would be cool to get some feedback too.
4 months ago
I love that card, but Skyshroud Poacher ended up being far too slow. Anything that takes seven or more mana and doesn't basically win on the spot in this deck got cut. Now he could work real well, but i just found him, at 4 mana with no elf benefits, a wasted play except very late game (when i have haste and extra mana) which is were this deck should never be if possible. This wants to win turn 3 - 5.
4 months ago
Suprised not to see any list really running Skyshroud Poacher. I can understand it being a Rebel makes things less synergistic but being able to put an elf into play from your Library for 3 is pretty solid for getting pieces of your combo.
5 months ago
I'd recommend Skyshroud Poacher, tutor every turn for 3 mana, and put it onto the battlefield? Why not?
5 months ago
McToters thank you again for your feedback. (Do I need to mention you every time for you to notice?)
For Revive and Gaea's Blessing, I have them in there to be able to get cards from my graveyard back into my hand effectively (Skyshroud Poacher is a nice tutor). With the added bonus of Gaea's Blessing being able to draw an extra card every time I play it.
Primal Command is something I placed in there because it's a mix of both tutor and getting a creature back from my graveyard. I'm pretty sure I don't have many of these kinds of resurrection cards in my deck currently. It's for when vital pieces such as Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania and Wirewood Channeler all get killed. I also feel like that the cost shouldn't be too much of an issue if I play it around turn 4 or 5 if my starting hand goes well.
I agree with you on the other 5 cards. Gaea's Touch seems to be a redundancy as I already have Exploration. Selesnya Signet is a ramp card, which I don't need as if I _do _need it, something has already gone wrong. Natural State is just a bad Naturalize. Savage Summoning is something I put in there at my friend's recommendation. Someone in the playgroup is going to be running as Esper deck. Wilt-Leaf Liege I placed in there as I saw it was recommended on EDHrec. It would give all my tokens a +1/+1 and my legendaries a +2/+2, which I thought was pretty nice.
A friend recommended I remove Huatli, Radiant Champion, Omnath, Locus of Mana, and Vitalize. He argued that Hautli is a slow card, and does not change the board state immediately. I do see what he means, as it would take 2 turns for him to actually do anything for me, as even if I used his -1 ability the instant I played him, that creature would just be blocked. Omnath was said to be redundant, as my mana dork deck was based around actually using that mana. I argued that it was just a plan B in case I didn't draw any of my other heavy cmc spells, but he argued again that it was a pretty bad plan B if the threat can be removed with a single removal spell. Vitalize he said was not worth a card. I fully disagree with him on that, as I figured that it would basically be giving me another turn instantly, as I would be able to use Rhys' abilities twice in a turn.
I don't think he's played a token deck before, so I'd like another opinion on those cards as well.
9 months ago
A lot of the cards in the deck seem to be leftovers from Multani when Marwyn really wants to be an Elf deck, of which you're not really running enough.
Umbral Mantle + Marwyn makes infinite mana. Spend 0 to equip, tap Marwyn for 1, untap her by paying 2 additional mana from other sources, and then tap her for 3, then pay that 3 to untap her again, and now she taps for 5. You'll net gain X + 2 mana every iteration of this loop.
Staff of Domination is expensive but worth it. Once Marwyn taps for 6 mana (which is as simple as casting some Elves), you can generate infinite mana, draw as many cards as you want, and gain as much life as you like.
For your creatures, you need to run Boreal Druid, Fyndhorn Elves, maybe even Joraga Treespeaker. In the case of the former two, they let you cast Marwyn on turn 2, instead of 3. Your ramp should be aiming to put her down t2, and if it costs 4 or more mana to ramp you should drop it. Animist's Awakening, Cultivate, Grow from the Ashes, Harvest Season, Hour of Promise, Kamahl's Druidic Vow (you have a whopping 3 legendary permanents in this deck), Kodama's Reach, Map the Wastes, and even Splendid Reclamation (unless you're playing against land destruction, otherwise it's an extremely blank card), and Tempt with Discovery. You don't need land cards in your hand anymore; this isn't Multani. Adventurous Impulse can go too. Replace all of these cards with Elves or cards that produce Elves- Imperious Perfect, Elvish Champion, Farhaven Elf, Arbor Elf, Elvish Harbinger, Boreal Druid, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania, Elvish Visionary, Fierce Empath, Immaculate Magistrate, Joraga Warcaller, Wirewood Channeler, Nullmage Shepherd, Lys Alana Huntmaster and more, are just some of the cards you could add. The Elf lords are important, but make sure you run every 1 drop Elf that taps for mana (and if you want to go full elfball with it, run Heritage Druid as she enables absurd plays with the right starting hands). Heck, even Dwynen's Elite isn't bad here since it's +2/+2 to Marwyn when they enter play.
Bottom line is: Marwyn wants Elves to enter play in order to grow. If you run few Elves, she won't grow very much.
So, you add more Elves and now Marwyn can tap for boatloads of mana by turns 5-6, so what do you do with that mana? Genesis Wave, Slate of Ancestry, and Ezuri, Renegade Leader make solid mana sinks. Similarly, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard and Skyshroud Poacher give you something to do with your oodles of mana too. You could add more tutors and draw (Chord of Calling is a personal favorite but there are cheaper options).
Instead of Hour of Promise, you could use Sylvan Scrying to find something like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, but if you're not going to be running Nykthos then either card is pretty mediocre so I wouldn't bother with it.
Aerial predation is cute, but Beast Within kills whatever and a 3/3 token hardly matters in a format with 40 life.
Ancient Animus is also cute, but it's heavily reliant upon your board position (IE, you already have to be 'winning' in order for Animus to do anything), whereas Song of the Dryads turns someone's Commander into a tree and, unless they have something that lets them sacrifice a land, they can get stuck without their Commander for a whole game. It's one of the best removals in green, truthfully.
Blossoming Defense gives you 2 extra mana out of Marwyn, but you could just cast Elves to get that instead. Heroic Intervention saves your whole board state from board wipes at only 1 mana more, which seems like the stronger inclusion.
All of those buffing equipment cards can probably go, too. Blackblade Reforged/Strata Scythe is adorable, but why use that when Coat of Arms is a thing? On another note, Thousand-Year Elixir would oftentimes let you get as much, if not more, use out of Marwyn and other mana dorks by letting them tap the turn they come into play, not to mention untapping them.
Anyway, I know this is a lot of recommendations but I hope this helped. My wife's been playing Elfball with basically every possible Commander since 2013 so I've learned a lot about it while helping her tune her Elf deck.
11 months ago
So I did a quick count-up, and there are 5 cards total that interact with elves (not including the ones that create elf tokens), so I don't know that, other than regenerating your commander, Ezuri, Renegade Leader is any good. And, on that note, is your commander vital to the deck's function? Not really. Powerful, but not critical. That being said, he can regenerate 17 creatures in the deck. Yes, there are 17 nontoken elf creatures in this deck.
Skyshroud Poacher occurrence in decks from the last year
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