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Liliana of the Dark Realms
Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Search your library for a Swamp card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
-3: Target creature gets +X/+X or -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the number of Swamps you control.
-6: You get an emblem with "Swamps you control have ': Add .'"









Icaruskid on
Shadowborn Demons | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
1 month ago
Profet93 Thank you for all the ideas!
This deck needs 5+ mana as fast as possible so Extraplanar Lens and the Snow-Covered Swamp automatically makes any game easier. I love that. And before that addition, Liliana of the Dark Realms was there to make sure I hit all my land drops, add to the combat damage win condition, and promise big mana that the deck thirsts for if unanswered. It's probably a flex spot now that I have enough low cost artifact ramp though. I might try Carnival of Souls there. It's lower cost and I like the suicide black theme.
I'm on the fence about Jet Medallion. I have one but it doesn't produce black mana so it's not ideal for pumping out Apostles or activating them. It does help get Shirei out faster but if I'm hard-casting demons where it would be useful I'm already losing.
Secret Salvage is a house in my Athreos, God of Passage > combo build but it doesn't help much here except to rebuild after a board wipe. I think the proactive route with Eldrazi Monument might be better in the more casual pods that I'm trying to run this in as it's permanent protection from board wipes and it makes the Apostles a threat themselves with flying and the +1 power buff.
Still tinkering and I appreciate the angles you are providing. This is a fun deck to try out all the ideas!
dantekee on
The Big Black Succ
5 months ago
Hey Goldberserkerdragon, loved this deck! I was looking to upgrade my Konrad deck and came across this one also: Ladies & Gentlemen, Mister Konrad Twitty... Could I ask what you think of it? Is there any cards or strategies worth merging with your deck? I found Bloodchief Ascension and Liliana of the Dark Realms kinda interesing. Anyway, awesome that you're still updating the deck! Cheers!
HeavenlyAxe on
1 year ago
Hey Indie,
First off I really like the lands you have assembled and the suggestions from SufferFromEDHD are all good.
You are definitely going to want an artifact ramp package.
Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone, Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo
Special Mention to Nyx Lotus, it could be good being in mono black. and Jeweled Lotus, pays for your commander for free on turn 1 even.
Sword of the Animist is not bad ramp at all and buffs yours rats
Commander's Plate might be cute.
Liliana of the Dark Realms, makes sure you always get a land drop and could make your swamps tap for four.
Chittering Witch if your playing with more opponents.
Crypt Ghast is sort of ramp, but doubles your swamps. Very good in mono black.
Dauthi Voidwalker is not on theme at all but is just sooo much value in a two cost card I have to recommend it.
God-Eternal Bontu is excellent draw power in the right situation.
Dont forget you can run any number of Relentless Rats
Gray Merchant of Asphodel will heal you up a lot and hurt your opponents
Krav, the Unredeemed is also great card draw.
Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, has card draw, removal, and proliferate all on one card
Deadly Rollick, potentially free removal
Defile, cheap good removal
Thrilling Encore saves you from a board wipe or lets you bring everything back after sacrificing it all to like God-Eternal Bontu
Phyrexian Arena some ok card draw.
Bojuka Bog if you are worried about graveyards
Mutilate, a good board wipe in mono black
Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, are a great draw package for mono black
Toxic Deluge a great board wipe for when things need resetting, and you could follow with Thrilling Encore and get it all back
Syphon Mind is great draw if your playing with more players
Victimize - is really really strong, get rid of one weak thing for two of your best things
Yawgmoth's Will - lets you treat your graveyard like your hand for a turn
Lord Skitter, Sewer King makes rats
Marrow-Gnawer - lets you make lots of rats
Infectious Inquiry - good draw and gives poison
Ogre Slumlord - makes rats when your creatures or your opponents creatures die.
Tangled Colony - if your opponent has to block it or it dies to like Blasphemous Act will make you rats
Vraska's Fall removal and poison counter
Drown in Ichor removal and poison
Bontu's Monument all your creatures cost less
Rat Colony can have any number and they buff themselves, and cost less mana than Relentless Rats
Typhoid Rats deathtouch rat opponents wont want to block
Crypt Rats can board wipe but can also win the game if you give it infect, doesnt work with your commander because toxic specifies combat damage but does work if you give it infect and deal damage with it's ability.
Ratcatcher tutors rats, and gives you card advantage
Ashcoat of the Shadow Swarm - buffs your rats and lets you get rats back
Wave of Rats has blitz and reanimates itself
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni rat that steals opponents stuff
Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion rat that steals opponents stuff
Adaptive Automaton is a rat and buffs rats
Okiba-Gang Shinobi rat makes opponents discard and has ninjutsu
Filth gives all your rats swampwalk pairs well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Dark Ritual lets your get a head start or some extra mana a turn you need it
Tainted Strike instant speed infect, funny in multiplayer because you can use it on anyone's creatures.
Phyresis Outbreak gives poison and might kill opponents creatures
Feed the Swarm enchantment removal in black
Vat Emergence gets a creature back and proliferates
Spread the Sickness destroys a creatures and proliferates
Pact of the Serpent strong tribal card draw
Living Death swap graveyards with battlefields, great after sacrificing your whole board to draw cards
Skullclamp sack small rats for card draw
Thrumming Stone if you go the Relentless Rats or Rat Colony route
Coat of Arms your rats will be huge
Bolas's Citadel this card is dumb lol, lots of casting power and then you hit Gray Merchant of Asphodel and keep going lol
Icon of Ancestry kinda draw buffs rats...is ok
Contagion Engine proliferate twice each time you activate
Eldrazi Monument gives creatures flying indestructible and +1/+1
Grafted Exoskeleton gives a creature infect, great with Crypt Rats
Sword of Truth and Justice proliferate sword
Bad Moon buff all black creatures, opponents too
Phyresis gives infect again good with Crypt Rats
Greed card draw
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting proliferate planes walker
I know that's a lot but hopefully gave you some ideas to work with!
Profet93 on
Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
1 year ago
indieinside I respect your decision not to include those cards, understandable. Repeats can be boring. For potential cuts....
Vraska, Betrayal's Sting - Costs too much and no synergy with the deck. Profileration isn't a theme, creature to treasure is cool but not efficient removal. Ult is irrelevant.
Liliana of the Dark Realms - +1 is swamp tutor to hand, not even field. With all your card draw, I can't imagine this to be helpful. It's -3 is swamp based removal, you can get better instant speed removal for less mana. It's ult is great but takes 4 turns without taking damage to get there.
If you do want a PW, then Ugin, the Ineffable might be worth considering because it's ramp for almost 20% of your deck, it's removal for artifact/enchantments and draw/token generator that provides you with more bodies (To attack with or block).
At the cost of being winmore, Alhammarret's Archive?
Please let us know how Hatred ends up playing out for you, I can't wait to hear the stories! Pumping up an opposing commander for commander damage is also a fun (potentially political) tool!
ViscountVonSausageRoll on
Temporary Graveyard
1 year ago
I can tell when you played xD
And hey, don't sell yourself short, casual 60 card is the epitome of magic.
Budget Suggestions (≤ $10): Griselbrand because he's awesome, Dark Ritual because speed, Go for the Throat or alternatively: I see you're running Bone Shredder. Perhaps considering replacing with Shriekmaw? He's less hardcastable, but he does throw himself into your graveyard in a hurry. Consider Buried Alive to fill the GY? Vampire Nighthawk has been replaced with Nighthawk Scavenger I know, the powercreeper has been powercrept.
Non-Budget Suggestions ($10+): Archon of Cruelty. I mean, read what it does. Right? That's ridiculous.
Recurring Nightmare It's pricey, but it's absolutely busted. (It sacs a dude and bounces to your hand as an additional cost) It never goes away.
Atraxa, Grand Unifier Honestly not my cup of tea, but she's very powerful.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Only because: It's just good in this deck. You're already running Liliana of the Dark Realms x2 and Coffers. Maybe find some heavily played ones?
Make Room: The most unfun part of coming back to any old deck. Well, Liliana Vess is just too expensive now days (even back then she was kinda pricey), but most of the time she ends up being a 5 CMC vampiric tutor at sorcery speed anyways. She never lives long.
Sorin Markov kind of falls under the same boat, at least in this deck imo. Usually by the time you can cast him, opponents aren't at 20 life anymore, so the appeal of "10 dmg" can be somewhat deceptive.
Anyways, welcome back, and I hope you enjoy yourself
leon_bulminot on
Volrath, Voltron Reanimator
1 year ago
Not sure what you might cut but if you want some help and unblockables, try a Kormus Bell plus something like Filth, you can turn your lands into a constant pinging source of damage.
I would also swap Void Winnower over to your control portion. Big beefy Eldrazi yes but risky to lose until your board is setup. And even then, he has more Utility as control.
I’d also swap Kozileks, if you have Kozilek, the Great Distortion. Lets you turn stuff like Filth into a counter spell and put it in the graveyard where you need it.
Also, Liliana of the Veil is decent but you can get so much more utility out of Liliana Vess for tutoring or, Liliana of the Dark Realms for land tutor and removal. Plus if you ultimate Dark Realms, you get BIG mana bumps, especially to use with Draco. Using 2 lands to keep him around versus 8.
And since you are so sack heavy, a card to not only dole out damage as you summon black creatures but let you sack and draw cards, and a seriously reduced cost, Ayara, First of Locthwain. Could replace 2 or 3 cards with just her.
Final suggestion and honestly, I am surprised with all the sacking you do here that it isn’t even on the maybe board. Blood Artist. All I need to say there lol
As for what to pull out, check your synergy and self interaction with cards. If two or three cards only interact with themselves, you might need to consider dropping them. I’ve been over the deck list but it could go so many different routes for beef sticks beating things down. Just thoughts to consider while looking for things to pull out. Sometimes one card can complete the function of 2 if you have them.
Veethevvitch on
Evil dead (Sheoldred)
1 year ago
ShadowMasterNLThank you for your answer!
I was thinking of cabal coffers, but I also have Nyx Lotus that gives me amount of mana = to devotion and my planeswalker Liliana of the Dark Realms also gives me an emblem that each swamp gives me 4 manas instead of one, so I thought i was already running enough mana with all that and the others you mentionned prior lmao. I decided that adding other cards instead was more pertinent. :) but i did consider Cabal Coffers for a while!
As for Exsanguinate it's been on the back of my mind for a while but I don't have a lot of lifegain element in the deck so I could'nt decide if it was worth it because I will also be trying to kill my opponents early with the poison counters, but it is true that having that much mana could actually make it worth it. It will also go in the maybeboard lmao.
Yeah I understand how well Tergrid, God of Fright Flipcan fit with my deck/commander, but I was also wondering about the gains for running this 5 mana card in this deck because I am already running Scion of Darkness which seemed like a better similar option at first because of its base power/defense and the trample factor, but maybe I am wrong because Menace is also a very good perk and my CMC would be better with a 5 instead of an 8 mana card probably!?
I also have a bunch of artifacts I would like to integrate to it just standing in my maybeboard to either lower the summon cast of my commander or to cast my commander from my hand instead of the commander zone in case of removal since I play against a lot of azorius control decks lmao!
Anyways all this to say, I have a hard time making cuts actually (decision paralysis lmao). So if you have some pointers for cuts I could make, that would also be interesting, and I always love to know the reason why if you find you have the time.
Sorry for the rambling. And I appreciate your time and input. XD
CrunchyDragon on
Gorgeous Girls Deck(list)
2 years ago
Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip(any set not Commander Collection or San Diego Comic Con Promos) and Liliana of the Dark Realms should probably be on this list.
Honestly you could probably fit most of the Liliana cards in here.
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