Drowner of Hope
Creature — Eldrazi
Devoid (This card has no color.)
When Drowner of Hope enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature tokens onto the battlefield. They have "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool."
Sacrifice an Eldrazi Scion: Tap target creature.
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|Battle for Zendikar (BFZ)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Drowner of Hope Discussion
6 months ago
Thanks for the input psionictemplar! I am really liking the idea of replacing Prime Speaker Vannifar and Gargos, Vicious Watcher with better ETB value. I will definitely consider using Idyllic Tutor. Primeval Titan is always a solid option, and I like the flexibility of Drowner of Hope. Leaning towards fewer creatures and more control sounds like a solid plan also. I'll mess around with some options and see what I can do. Will look forward to more ideas later on. Thanks again!
6 months ago
Here's a tl:dr summary of what I started to post and didn't.
You have multiple ways to get combo pieces out that don't have synergy with each other. e.g. Prime Speaker Vannifar and only 1 Gargos, Vicious Watcher to pull the Agent of Treachery with. The triggered ability on Gargos is really going to waste here. I know that's not it's intended purpose but you could find other 6 drops that give you etb value even if it's only 1 time. e.g. Primeval Titan or Drowner of Hope Why not try something like Weird Harvest or Idyllic Tutor to pull combo pieces.
I think you could do well to cut a lot of the creatures out and run more control elements such as wrath effects and counterspells. It would be more consistent and only leave you more time to assemble your win. If you want to keep the creature plan then up the numbers on things that help you get to the late game more and cut some of the more niche things like Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Kruphix, God of Horizons. A couple more vannifar's might not be a bad idea if you are really set on the creature route.
3 Other cards to consider: Eldritch Evolution ...more to come later on.
7 months ago
Recommendations at 112 cards in decklist:
Cards to remove:
Crucible of Worlds - unless you're playing in a land destruction heavy meta, you're only likely going to benefit with this versus mill or forced discard. You're not running fetchlands so it's utility is very limited.
Illusionist's Bracers - while you have more than a handful of creatures with abilities you could double up on, the equip cost plus those activations is somewhat prohibitive. If your commander was still Sliver Queen, it would make more sense. As is it seems like an overly complicated way to double up on your effects.
Rings of Brighthearth - potentially works with Barrage Tyrant, Each activation of the tap ability Gruesome Slaughter grants your colorless creatures, Idol of Oblivion, Brood Butcher, Deepfathom Skulker, Drowner of Hope, Eldrazi Displacer, Essence Depleter, Sliver Queen, Spawnsire of Ulamog, Ugin, the Ineffable, and Golos, Tireless Pilgrim. ---- Doubling World Breaker's ability doesn't make sense. With each ability costing a minimum of 2 (minus Gruesome Slaughter's activations), and up to 7, that extra 2 is going to add up fast.
If it's worth it for you for the 11-12 cards that have the abilities, that's one thing. but I would keep it as a tentative for right now with needing to cut 12 cards from the total list (9 if you cut the 3 mentioned above)
9 months ago
Yeah... I know that feeling of selling cards I shouldn't have.
Since you are crazy enough to wanna hear my suggestions, then here I come. I have to say one thing before though. A sideboard is somewhere you can put cards to switch between matches to fix your deck's weak point. So, even if have one Garruk, absolutely mainboard him. That would make the deck more consistent. Having him in the sideboard doesn't help.
Mutiny is another card that just isn't good. It's too unreliable as it needs your opponent to have at the very least two creatures and one of them needs to be strong enough to kill the other, in which case you'll kill the weaker but will still need to deal with a strong creature. Kozilek's Return isn't budget friendly. However, it's a good boardwipe that doubles if you cast a big Eldrazi, clearing the way for an attack. If you strictly want a single target removal you could use Lightning Bolt , Wild Slash , Abrade or, if want to have as few colors as possible, Reality Shift .
Same goes for Spark Harvest . Too unreliabe and sacrificing the resources you'll need to accomplish your goal doesn't seem good. You can use Dismember instead as really few creatures can survive -5/-5 and you wouldn't need a black source anymore.
Hamletback Goliath is cute altough being nothing else. It's not bad per say, but offers nothing more than just a big body. No protection, no evasion, not even trample. Even if it becomes a 40/40 it can be blocked by a 1/1. Just as a comparison, Hamletback Goliath can be destroyed, bounced or exiled, but Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger can't be destroyed and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn has protection from an absurd amount of things while simultaneously having evasion. You're investing a lot of mana in those Eldrazi and they "pay you back" by impacting the board as soon as they come in and are rather resilient. Rather than the Goliath, you could use Emrakul's Hatcher , Beanstalk Giant , Oblivion Sower or even Drowner of Hope . Here's a more organized way to explain:
Emrakul's Hatcher - Not nearly as big and has no potential to grow, but helps you "ramp". Also is a red card, so makes you have to properly adjust your manabase accordingly.
Beanstalk Giant - Not as big, but can grow really big if go all in the ramp plan as it also helps you ramp by being a ramp spell.
I've been writing a lot. Feel free to agree or disagree with what I said. Just because I think something would be better it doesn't it will be better or that you should like it, after all, the deck is yours.
Also, if you could change the format to Casual it would help a lot. When writing these comment, TappedOut can directly show you cards I want to suggest. However, since the deck is labeled as Unknown format, anything I try to recommend ends up being recognized as illegal.
11 months ago
If you want more wincons via blinking (outside of stax, anyway), you'll need effects that generate creatures. Some of them are Myr Battlesphere , Genesis Chamber , Drowner of Hope , Whirler Rogue , and Geist-Honored Monk . Several of these cards are good not just because they make tokens, but because they also are useful beyond their ability to just make tokens. Brago gives you an incredible amount of mana and draw in a single turn, so his ability to produce a lethal amount of creatures shouldn't be underestimated.
1 year ago
Dear people from Tapped Out,
I have been very excited about constructing an Eldrazi Tribal deck. This will be my second deck, I will take a considerate amount of time to carefully construct this investment.
I have come as far to construct a reasonable mana base (still up for change if needed) and a few cards to help me through early game. I still want to include cards like Explosive Vegetation and Descendants' Path .
I have defined a strategy:
- Early game: ramp mana, cast Animar, Soul of Elements
- Mid game: protect Animar, cast small creatures and tutor big ones or fix card advantage
- End game: cast the big creatures, end it.
My question arose when I was evaluating cards like: Drowner of Hope , Rapacious One and Brood Monitor , which create manatokens. These are all cards with CMC ≥5. Thus I consider these cards castable mid-game. According to my strategy I want to create manaramp (e.g. manatokens) earlygame, not midgame
This conflict made me think to myself: How valuable is creating tokens? What is your guys' opinions, are these tokencreators worth keeping in my deck and should I change strategy or do I just toss em out?
All feedback is welcome! I'd love to hear your opinion.
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 2 | 41 VIEWS
1 year ago
OK so I'd not been active on TO for a little while and after clearing up a bunch of notifications I popped over to my list of decks to find.... this nonsense:
- Anguished Unmaking
- Charcoal Diamond
- Cruel Edict
- Curious Obsession
- Curse of Chaos
- Dark Bargain
- Drag Under
- Drowner of Hope
- False Dawn
- Karona, False God CMDR
- Lost Legacy
- Mind Rot
- Mox Diamond
- One with Nothing
- Painful Lesson
- Threads of Disloyalty
- Totally Lost
- Utter End
I'd titled the list: "Lost".
Now. I'm pretty sure I've only stuck a 5c commander into the list because I had to put something, however, I now have no memory or idea what I was thinking of or where this was going - any thoughts on what my connection was!!??
1 year ago
No land really comes to mind for what you want, a big problem with playing an eldrazi deck that is not in R/G is you lack the 4 extra copies of such cards. If you are intent on black however you could always just play an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . Other than that, Gemstone Mine or some manlands like Mutavault or Blinkmoth Nexus feel better than crossroads, you have a good amount of coloured sources so you don't have to worry too much, and if you are, then maybe look to find some room for Chromatic Star or Talisman of Dominance .
The Gryff though, in my opinion though I am not an expert, should go. Sure it triggers sanctum, but really ask yourself how often you will have exactly sanctum + gryff? The answer is not very often and even then the answer to the question of whether that even feels good is worse, one deep fiend can easily be enough to win, chaining them is just a bonus, by keeping gryff you risk becoming too one-dimensional, this is why we haven;t seen fiend really do anything in my opinion, by diversifying your top end and threats you give yourself a better chance at winning, especially in a world where decks are now running Surgical Extraction in the mainboard, Drowner of Hope is a great card, and it also ramps you so its a win-win. That's my quick little attempt at convinving you, either way I wish you the best of luck. Additionally, if you are intent on running black cards out of the board then I would go with 2 Thoughtseize , other considerations I would make are Bitterblossom , Nihil Spellbomb , and (unfortunate price on this one) Leyline of the Void .
As a further note, to fix your mana problem you could always... you know ... play Oblivion Sower ;)