Drowner of Hope

Drowner of Hope

Creature — Eldrazi

Devoid (This card has no color.)

When Drowner of Hope enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature tokens onto the battlefield. They have "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool."

Sacrifice an Eldrazi Scion: Tap target creature.

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Battle for Zendikar (BFZ) Rare
Promo Set (000) Rare

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Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Limited Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Highlander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Pioneer Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Drowner of Hope Discussion

Kazierts on Blind Eternities Summoning

1 month ago

Yeah... I know that feeling of selling cards I shouldn't have.

Since you are crazy enough to wanna hear my suggestions, then here I come. I have to say one thing before though. A sideboard is somewhere you can put cards to switch between matches to fix your deck's weak point. So, even if have one Garruk, absolutely mainboard him. That would make the deck more consistent. Having him in the sideboard doesn't help.

Mutiny is another card that just isn't good. It's too unreliable as it needs your opponent to have at the very least two creatures and one of them needs to be strong enough to kill the other, in which case you'll kill the weaker but will still need to deal with a strong creature. Kozilek's Return isn't budget friendly. However, it's a good boardwipe that doubles if you cast a big Eldrazi, clearing the way for an attack. If you strictly want a single target removal you could use Lightning Bolt , Wild Slash , Abrade or, if want to have as few colors as possible, Reality Shift .

Same goes for Spark Harvest . Too unreliabe and sacrificing the resources you'll need to accomplish your goal doesn't seem good. You can use Dismember instead as really few creatures can survive -5/-5 and you wouldn't need a black source anymore.

Mist Intruder is just generic, and ingest isn't a really good mechanic. Run Eldrazi Skyspawner instead. It's one mana more expensive but also ramps you for one mana.

Hamletback Goliath is cute altough being nothing else. It's not bad per say, but offers nothing more than just a big body. No protection, no evasion, not even trample. Even if it becomes a 40/40 it can be blocked by a 1/1. Just as a comparison, Hamletback Goliath can be destroyed, bounced or exiled, but Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger can't be destroyed and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn has protection from an absurd amount of things while simultaneously having evasion. You're investing a lot of mana in those Eldrazi and they "pay you back" by impacting the board as soon as they come in and are rather resilient. Rather than the Goliath, you could use Emrakul's Hatcher , Beanstalk Giant , Oblivion Sower or even Drowner of Hope . Here's a more organized way to explain:

  1. Emrakul's Hatcher - Not nearly as big and has no potential to grow, but helps you "ramp". Also is a red card, so makes you have to properly adjust your manabase accordingly.

  2. Beanstalk Giant - Not as big, but can grow really big if go all in the ramp plan as it also helps you ramp by being a ramp spell.

  3. Oblivion Sower - Can be searched with From Beyond and disrupts the opponent while also stealing their lands and ramping you.

  4. Drowner of Hope - Sort of a Control(?) option. It can sacrifice you scion tokens to tap your oppoent's most troublesome creature and it's also searchable by From Beyond .

I've been writing a lot. Feel free to agree or disagree with what I said. Just because I think something would be better it doesn't it will be better or that you should like it, after all, the deck is yours.

Also, if you could change the format to Casual it would help a lot. When writing these comment, TappedOut can directly show you cards I want to suggest. However, since the deck is labeled as Unknown format, anything I try to recommend ends up being recognized as illegal.

Lanzo493 on Flicker Quicker

2 months ago

If you want more wincons via blinking (outside of stax, anyway), you'll need effects that generate creatures. Some of them are Myr Battlesphere , Genesis Chamber , Drowner of Hope , Whirler Rogue , and Geist-Honored Monk . Several of these cards are good not just because they make tokens, but because they also are useful beyond their ability to just make tokens. Brago gives you an incredible amount of mana and draw in a single turn, so his ability to produce a lethal amount of creatures shouldn't be underestimated.

Schadowpop on How valuable are creature manatokens?

5 months ago

Dear people from Tapped Out,

I have been very excited about constructing an Eldrazi Tribal deck. This will be my second deck, I will take a considerate amount of time to carefully construct this investment.

I have come as far to construct a reasonable mana base (still up for change if needed) and a few cards to help me through early game. I still want to include cards like Explosive Vegetation and Descendants' Path .

I have defined a strategy:

  • Early game: ramp mana, cast Animar, Soul of Elements
  • Mid game: protect Animar, cast small creatures and tutor big ones or fix card advantage
  • End game: cast the big creatures, end it.

My question arose when I was evaluating cards like: Drowner of Hope , Rapacious One and Brood Monitor , which create manatokens. These are all cards with CMC ≥5. Thus I consider these cards castable mid-game. According to my strategy I want to create manaramp (e.g. manatokens) earlygame, not midgame

This conflict made me think to myself: How valuable is creating tokens? What is your guys' opinions, are these tokencreators worth keeping in my deck and should I change strategy or do I just toss em out?

All feedback is welcome! I'd love to hear your opinion.

Deck:


Eldrazi Tribal

Commander / EDH* Schadowpop

SCORE: 2 | 41 VIEWS


BS-T on Lost - a challenge of ...

10 months ago

OK so I'd not been active on TO for a little while and after clearing up a bunch of notifications I popped over to my list of decks to find.... this nonsense:

I'd titled the list: "Lost".

Now. I'm pretty sure I've only stuck a 5c commander into the list because I had to put something, however, I now have no memory or idea what I was thinking of or where this was going - any thoughts on what my connection was!!??

Oloro_Magic on which of these two decks ...

11 months ago

No land really comes to mind for what you want, a big problem with playing an eldrazi deck that is not in R/G is you lack the 4 extra copies of such cards. If you are intent on black however you could always just play an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . Other than that, Gemstone Mine or some manlands like Mutavault or Blinkmoth Nexus feel better than crossroads, you have a good amount of coloured sources so you don't have to worry too much, and if you are, then maybe look to find some room for Chromatic Star or Talisman of Dominance .

The Gryff though, in my opinion though I am not an expert, should go. Sure it triggers sanctum, but really ask yourself how often you will have exactly sanctum + gryff? The answer is not very often and even then the answer to the question of whether that even feels good is worse, one deep fiend can easily be enough to win, chaining them is just a bonus, by keeping gryff you risk becoming too one-dimensional, this is why we haven;t seen fiend really do anything in my opinion, by diversifying your top end and threats you give yourself a better chance at winning, especially in a world where decks are now running Surgical Extraction in the mainboard, Drowner of Hope is a great card, and it also ramps you so its a win-win. That's my quick little attempt at convinving you, either way I wish you the best of luck. Additionally, if you are intent on running black cards out of the board then I would go with 2 Thoughtseize , other considerations I would make are Bitterblossom , Nihil Spellbomb , and (unfortunate price on this one) Leyline of the Void .

As a further note, to fix your mana problem you could always... you know ... play Oblivion Sower ;)

Oloro_Magic on which of these two decks ...

11 months ago

I would go with the copy version simply because I don't think you are at all focused on Tron itself, to this end though Wretched Gryff should be cut, and probably some number of of skyspawner to make room for Drowner of Hope which in my opinion is the only real appeal to being on blue eldrazi,giving you a way to out pace your opponent even in games that go a bit too long. Other than that both need a sideboard to best evaluate and the mana could use some work, this deck really wants Cavern of Souls in the long term to give an idea of what your upgrades should be.

skoobysnackz on Esper Eldrazi

11 months ago

Looks like a deck I like to play (Lost in The Blind Eternities). I'm curious though, does Lavinia, Azorius Renegade have any synergies in this deck, or is she just to prevent your opponent from using tron lands etc. I'm asking because with 4, it seems as though you want to use her to prevent exiled cards with Tidehollow Sculler and Spell Queller from returning to the battlefield. If this is the case, I don't think that works since both Lavinia's abilities specifically say "cast" and these cards are not actually cast when they come back. If ithat's not the intended use for her, I'm curious to hear what you think of her and how she has performed so far. Lastly, I think I would consider Blight Herder over Drowner of Hope , but that's just me. Looks fun!

Killzun on Insert Blink Pun Here: Roon Combo EDH

11 months ago

Infinite blinks of Drowner of Hope will give infinite chumps to sacrifice for infinite colorless mana without having to alter your land base.

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