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Drowner of Hope
Creature — Eldrazi
Devoid (This card has no color.)
When Drowner of Hope enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 colorless Eldrazi Scion creature tokens onto the battlefield. They have "Sacrifice this creature: Add to your mana pool."
Sacrifice an Eldrazi Scion: Tap target creature.
Drowner of Hope Discussion
1 month ago
Dear people from Tapped Out,
I have been very excited about constructing an Eldrazi Tribal deck. This will be my second deck, I will take a considerate amount of time to carefully construct this investment.
I have come as far to construct a reasonable mana base (still up for change if needed) and a few cards to help me through early game. I still want to include cards like Explosive Vegetation and Descendants' Path .
I have defined a strategy:
- Early game: ramp mana, cast Animar, Soul of Elements
- Mid game: protect Animar, cast small creatures and tutor big ones or fix card advantage
- End game: cast the big creatures, end it.
My question arose when I was evaluating cards like: Drowner of Hope , Rapacious One and Brood Monitor , which create manatokens. These are all cards with CMC ≥5. Thus I consider these cards castable mid-game. According to my strategy I want to create manaramp (e.g. manatokens) earlygame, not midgame
This conflict made me think to myself: How valuable is creating tokens? What is your guys' opinions, are these tokencreators worth keeping in my deck and should I change strategy or do I just toss em out?
All feedback is welcome! I'd love to hear your opinion.
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 2 | 41 VIEWS
6 months ago
OK so I'd not been active on TO for a little while and after clearing up a bunch of notifications I popped over to my list of decks to find.... this nonsense:
- Anguished Unmaking
- Charcoal Diamond
- Cruel Edict
- Curious Obsession
- Curse of Chaos
- Dark Bargain
- Drag Under
- Drowner of Hope
- False Dawn
- Karona, False God CMDR
- Lost Legacy
- Mind Rot
- Mox Diamond
- One with Nothing
- Painful Lesson
- Threads of Disloyalty
- Totally Lost
- Utter End
I'd titled the list: "Lost".
Now. I'm pretty sure I've only stuck a 5c commander into the list because I had to put something, however, I now have no memory or idea what I was thinking of or where this was going - any thoughts on what my connection was!!??
7 months ago
No land really comes to mind for what you want, a big problem with playing an eldrazi deck that is not in R/G is you lack the 4 extra copies of such cards. If you are intent on black however you could always just play an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . Other than that, Gemstone Mine or some manlands like Mutavault or Blinkmoth Nexus feel better than crossroads, you have a good amount of coloured sources so you don't have to worry too much, and if you are, then maybe look to find some room for Chromatic Star or Talisman of Dominance .
The Gryff though, in my opinion though I am not an expert, should go. Sure it triggers sanctum, but really ask yourself how often you will have exactly sanctum + gryff? The answer is not very often and even then the answer to the question of whether that even feels good is worse, one deep fiend can easily be enough to win, chaining them is just a bonus, by keeping gryff you risk becoming too one-dimensional, this is why we haven;t seen fiend really do anything in my opinion, by diversifying your top end and threats you give yourself a better chance at winning, especially in a world where decks are now running Surgical Extraction in the mainboard, Drowner of Hope is a great card, and it also ramps you so its a win-win. That's my quick little attempt at convinving you, either way I wish you the best of luck. Additionally, if you are intent on running black cards out of the board then I would go with 2 Thoughtseize , other considerations I would make are Bitterblossom , Nihil Spellbomb , and (unfortunate price on this one) Leyline of the Void .
As a further note, to fix your mana problem you could always... you know ... play Oblivion Sower ;)
7 months ago
I would go with the copy version simply because I don't think you are at all focused on Tron itself, to this end though Wretched Gryff should be cut, and probably some number of of skyspawner to make room for Drowner of Hope which in my opinion is the only real appeal to being on blue eldrazi,giving you a way to out pace your opponent even in games that go a bit too long. Other than that both need a sideboard to best evaluate and the mana could use some work, this deck really wants Cavern of Souls in the long term to give an idea of what your upgrades should be.
7 months ago
Looks like a deck I like to play (Lost in The Blind Eternities). I'm curious though, does Lavinia, Azorius Renegade have any synergies in this deck, or is she just to prevent your opponent from using tron lands etc. I'm asking because with 4, it seems as though you want to use her to prevent exiled cards with Tidehollow Sculler and Spell Queller from returning to the battlefield. If this is the case, I don't think that works since both Lavinia's abilities specifically say "cast" and these cards are not actually cast when they come back. If ithat's not the intended use for her, I'm curious to hear what you think of her and how she has performed so far. Lastly, I think I would consider Blight Herder over Drowner of Hope , but that's just me. Looks fun!
8 months ago
Infinite blinks of Drowner of Hope will give infinite chumps to sacrifice for infinite colorless mana without having to alter your land base.
11 months ago
Section 1 Get +1/+1 counters other than attacking
Arcbound stuff by CMC (some are in other categories): Arcbound Worker, Arcbound Slith, Arcbound Stinger, Arcbound Crusher, Arcbound Hybrid, Arcbound Bruiser, Arcbound Fiend, Arcbound Lancer, Arcbound Overseer
Creature type based: Metallic Mimic
Just because it is an artifact: Steel Overseer
Creatures that already have counters:
Sacrifice outlets to consider:
- Culling Dais
- Demonmail Hauberk
- Blasting Station
- Metalwork Colossus
- Phyrexian Vault
- Spawning Pit
- Shivan Harvest
- Arcbound Ravager
Other: Control: Wizard Replica
Gain Life: Peace Strider
Cheating: Summoner's Egg
Other cards I like
Vela the Night-Clad She makes all your colorless permanents only blockable by an artifact
Storm the Vault Mana ramp
Liquimetal Coating some of those creature that are not a artifact... now it is
Phyrexian Scriptures Kill all non-artifact creatures / also places a +1/+1 counter
1 year ago
If you need draw, Cerulean Wisps is very efficient. You may also which to invest in Morphing. Exiling Morphed cards returns permanents flipped and untapped. Also triggers ETB effects. Very easy amass mana with an exiled Drowner of Hope. Or counter spells by turning an Essence Flux into an ETB Counterspell. This also works with Cackling Counterpart. The cloning of counter creatures happens before the original is hit with the removal spell. Fun.
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