question about one situation
Asked by Emeria_Incubator 8 years ago
If Aurelia, the Warleader and Kaalia of the Vast are in play and attacking so i put from my hand to battlefield Utvara Hellkite tapped that attacking too .. my q
Gidgetimer says... #2
Your question is a bit hard to understand. I'm going to do my best to answer what I think your question is, please ask for clarification if what I answer isn't what you were asking.
If you attack with Kaalia of the Vast and put Aurelia, the Warleader in tapped and attacking you will not get a second combat step that turn. "When this creature attacks" triggers when the creature is declared attacking. Creatures that enter tapped and attacking were never declared attacking and so their on attack triggers don't trigger.
If you have Aurelia on the field already you will be able to put a dragon/angel/demon into play tapped and attacking on both combat phases since Kaalia triggers any time she attacks, not just the first time each turn.
November 23, 2015 8:40 a.m.
Emeria_Incubator says... #3
my question was simple aurelia and kaalia are already on battelfield !!
STEP1 ..i attack !! STEP2 ..put angel/demon/dragon on battlefield tap that attacking!! STEP3 .. second combat phase (my question is here) the angel/demon/dragon played that i put at my first combat phase is able to attack or not able to attack during my second combat phase?
November 23, 2015 9:23 a.m.
Emeria_Incubator says... #4
sry about my English, is not my first language :D i try to do my best :D
November 23, 2015 9:25 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #5
The Utvara Hellkite that was put in during the first combat phase will not be able to attack during the second because it will have summoning sickness. You may ignore this if an ability or effect gives it haste.
Note: you will not get a 6/6 dragon token from the first combat phase because it was not declared as an attacker.
November 23, 2015 9:40 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #6
Yeah I realized English wasn't your first language that is why I requested that you ask for clarification if I didn't answer your question. As Raging_Squiggle said; the creature you put in the first combat step off of Kaalia's ability will not be able to attack in the second combat phase unless it has haste. It will have summoning sickness.
November 23, 2015 9:47 a.m.
Emeria_Incubator says... #7
but summoning sickness is caused only by card has been spellcasted ?? no ?? if its an trigger abillity like kaalia Trigger ability's that make put in play(angel/demon/dragon)as attacking creature automaticly:P its not a spell :P i dont understand why ... i will go take a look at summoning sickness rule :D one sec
November 23, 2015 11:20 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #8
Summoning sickness applies to any creature that you have not continuously controlled since the beginning of your most recent turn.
However, summoning sickness only affects 
(and untap) abilities and whether the creature can be declared as an attacker. To declare a creature as an attacker, you announce it as an attacker during the declare attackers step. Spells and abilities that put a creature onto the battlefield attacking something cause that creature to become an "attacking creature," but that creature never "attacked" (it was never declared as an attacker).
So whatever you bring in with Kaalia will have summoning sickness unless it has haste, but that summoning sickness doesn't affect the fact that Kaalia puts the creature onto the battlefield attacking.
November 23, 2015 11:49 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #9
Even permanents with haste have summoning sickness, they can just attack and tap as if they didn't. If haste is taken away via something like Humility the permanent can no longer ignore the effects of the summoning sickness it already had.
November 23, 2015 11:55 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... Accepted answer #10
302.6. A creatures activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost cant be activated unless the creature has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature cant attack unless it has been under its controllers control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the summoning sickness rule.
Being put on to the battlefield tapped and attacking is not the same as being declared as an attacker. A creature with Defender could technically be put on the battlefield tapped and attacking via an ability such as that from Kaalia of the Vast.
Emeria_Incubator says... #1
sry i press on ENTER accidently xD my question is for my second combat phase cause by Aurelia, the Warleader ... do Utvara Hellkite can attack or he cant cuz summoning sickness ???
November 23, 2015 8:23 a.m.