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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, choose one
Goad target creature that player controls.
Exile the top card of that player's library. Until the end of turn, you may cast that card and you may spend mana as though it were many of any color to cast it.
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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser Discussion
5 days ago
Most of the cards that I run in OH LORD JESUS IT'S A FIRE! | Neheb EDH have already been mentioned, but I thought I'd chime in anyway.
A red version of Phyrexian Arena does not exist :(
That said, Neheb has some pretty good options.
Sword of Fire and Ice is great because it will deal damage, draw a card, and protect Neheb from your own x spells. Everything you want!
Blah blah, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, blah blah
Commune with Lava is really great. You can use the cards for two whole turns so you can dump your mana into it, then next turn have a huge card advantage.
Prophetic Flamespeaker is also good. Attach the sword to him.
Also Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is sorta a card advantage? I've found him useful anyway.
6 days ago
Why Manic Vandal over Tuktuk Scrapper? I see it is 1 CMC less, but if you ran 4x Goblin Warchief like most legacy decks you could easily drop for 1-3 mana in most games, or just Vial it in. Plus, it won't go to the bottom of your deck with a ringleader drop pull.
Krenko, Mob Boss is a 1x staple for most decks now.
You don't see many decks in this format running Warren Instigator since it an RR and there are much rougher choices for a 2 drop for goblins I think like Mogg War Marshal, or obviously Goblin Piledriver.
I agree with the above comment that Goblin Grenade is not good in legacy. I do however, think a 1x Legion Loyalist is worth it to give your other goblins great buffs as a 1 drop, especially piledrivers.
Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control and lets you retrigger matrons and ringleaders with a sac mechanism like Goblin Sledder or as most decks run, 1x Skirk Prospector. This isn't a popular choice, but worth considering. I run it in my RB goblin deck, but thats for casual. The champion effect of Lightning Crafter has the same retrigger potential.
Frogtosser Banneret could help you reduce costs of some of your goblins just like a Goblin Warchief, but you have neither. I think these are important for tribal goblins (most run warchief over frogtosser for the haste/monored).
1-2x Ancient Tomb seems to have dropped off most top8 decklists, but I like running 2 in mine. I run Food Chain Goblins and dirty kitty though, so my mechanic is different (and more vulnerable, but faster) than vial gobs.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is nuts.
As for the sideboard, many people like running Krosan Grip if they splash with green. Also consider Thoughtseize. I also think that Blood Moon like stated above is great for MONORED in the sideboard if you choose to drop black. I think a 1x Goblin King is nice in the sideboard as well. Red Elemental Blast might help in the side as well.
1 week ago
@shrapnel_: Grenzo, Dungeon Warden is fantastic when your hand is empty but have multiple Aether Vials, Rishadan Ports, etc. You end up with a lot of extra mana, but not anything to do with it. Even planting him on turn 2, he still flips every goblin in the deck except Krenko, Mob Boss and Earwig Squad. He's more of a mana spell that puts the bottom goblin of your deck into play.
I used to have the Lightning Crafter combo in here, but took it out because it gets clunky if you don't have anything in play or a critter you want to stay.
I diddn't know Grenzo, Havoc Raiser was a card. I'll have to look into getting one!
1 week ago
Grenzo, Dungeon Warden kind of seems like a slow gamble for the format.
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is worth considering imo. I think 1x of him will start popping up in legacy decks.
I like and run 2x Ancient Tomb, but people who play gobs have mixed feelings about them.
Sparksmith used to be popular for larger removal, but he hurts like hell. Might save you against reanimator decks and the like since you get more than one use out of him, unlike Gempalm Incinerator.Looks like fun!
1 week ago
Hi, I like your deck!
Here are some suggestions:
The free spot could be filled with Goblin Rabblemaster
Rogue's Passage could do some work, too
Purphoros, God of the Forge as an alternative win condition
2 weeks ago
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! I appreciate the token generators you've linked RazortoothMtg the deck can't really do what it wants to do without them!
Oh my gosh I just realized just how much Bident of Thassa would pull some weight in this deck, I really like that one! Grenzo, Havoc Raiser seems like a must include now that he's been suggested as well!
I just prefer when I am conveniently placed out of the effects of said chaos. For that reason I usually prefer Fumiko the Lowblood over Avatar of Slaughter. That being said Fumiko can get the party started and Avatar can finish the job!
Still really uncertain whether I wanna go WURG or WBRG, blue can incentivize attacks with possible card draw a la ludevic, edric, and curse of verbosity and can even redirect attacks with Illusionist's Gambit / Portal Mage. But I think I'm more comfortable giving my opponents little weeny creature tokens that I can prepare my deck to deal with than I am offering them extra cards that might totally unravel my strategy! For that reason I believe Curse of Disturbance beats Curse of Verbosity in this situation. Black also has the cards that insure that if someone gets fed up and wipes the board I get to benefit from it with all the death triggers!
Thanks for all the helpful discussion! Feel free to comment further if you have any other ideas!
2 weeks ago
Goad effects. I echo the call for Grenzo, Havoc Raiser.
Disrupt Decorum is my personal favorite!