Grenzo, Havoc Raiser

Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Pauper Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Conspiracy: Take the Crown (CN2) Rare

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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser

Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue

Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, choose one

Goad target creature that player controls.

Exile the top card of that player's library. Until the end of turn, you may cast that card and you may spend mana as though it were many of any color to cast it.

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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser Discussion

Suns_Champion on Mono red card advantage

5 days ago

Most of the cards that I run in OH LORD JESUS IT'S A FIRE! | Neheb EDH have already been mentioned, but I thought I'd chime in anyway.

A red version of Phyrexian Arena does not exist :(

That said, Neheb has some pretty good options.

Sword of Fire and Ice is great because it will deal damage, draw a card, and protect Neheb from your own x spells. Everything you want!

Hedron Archive, Knollspine Dragon, Infiltration Lens, Reforge the Soul, and Throne of the High City are all solid additions, but not amazing.

Blah blah, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, blah blah

Commune with Lava is really great. You can use the cards for two whole turns so you can dump your mana into it, then next turn have a huge card advantage.

Prophetic Flamespeaker is also good. Attach the sword to him.

Humble Defector(if you run Homeward Path)

Also Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is sorta a card advantage? I've found him useful anyway.

shrapnel_ on Legacy Goblin Tribal

6 days ago

Why Manic Vandal over Tuktuk Scrapper? I see it is 1 CMC less, but if you ran 4x Goblin Warchief like most legacy decks you could easily drop for 1-3 mana in most games, or just Vial it in. Plus, it won't go to the bottom of your deck with a ringleader drop pull.

Krenko, Mob Boss is a 1x staple for most decks now.

You don't see many decks in this format running Warren Instigator since it an RR and there are much rougher choices for a 2 drop for goblins I think like Mogg War Marshal, or obviously Goblin Piledriver.

I think Grenzo, Dungeon Warden is a bit slow, but Grenzo, Havoc Raiser as a 1x will start popping up in legacy decklists soon.

I agree with the above comment that Goblin Grenade is not good in legacy. I do however, think a 1x Legion Loyalist is worth it to give your other goblins great buffs as a 1 drop, especially piledrivers.

Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control and lets you retrigger matrons and ringleaders with a sac mechanism like Goblin Sledder or as most decks run, 1x Skirk Prospector. This isn't a popular choice, but worth considering. I run it in my RB goblin deck, but thats for casual. The champion effect of Lightning Crafter has the same retrigger potential.

Frogtosser Banneret could help you reduce costs of some of your goblins just like a Goblin Warchief, but you have neither. I think these are important for tribal goblins (most run warchief over frogtosser for the haste/monored).

1-2x Ancient Tomb seems to have dropped off most top8 decklists, but I like running 2 in mine. I run Food Chain Goblins and dirty kitty though, so my mechanic is different (and more vulnerable, but faster) than vial gobs.

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker is nuts.

Consider Terminate or Gempalm Incinerator or Tragic Slip even for removal.

As for the sideboard, many people like running Krosan Grip if they splash with green. Also consider Thoughtseize. I also think that Blood Moon like stated above is great for MONORED in the sideboard if you choose to drop black. I think a 1x Goblin King is nice in the sideboard as well. Red Elemental Blast might help in the side as well.

sylvannos on Gobos!!!!

1 week ago

@shrapnel_: Grenzo, Dungeon Warden is fantastic when your hand is empty but have multiple Aether Vials, Rishadan Ports, etc. You end up with a lot of extra mana, but not anything to do with it. Even planting him on turn 2, he still flips every goblin in the deck except Krenko, Mob Boss and Earwig Squad. He's more of a mana spell that puts the bottom goblin of your deck into play.

I used to have the Lightning Crafter combo in here, but took it out because it gets clunky if you don't have anything in play or a critter you want to stay.

I diddn't know Grenzo, Havoc Raiser was a card. I'll have to look into getting one!

Gempalm Incinerator is in because it's uncounterable removal. It's really important versus Delver of Secrets, especially on turn 2 when they'll block your Goblin Lackey.

shrapnel_ on Gobos!!!!

1 week ago

Grenzo, Dungeon Warden kind of seems like a slow gamble for the format.

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker+Lightning Crafter+Skirk Prospector=infinite damage combo.

I think that Legion Loyalist could be a good 1x for you (maybe replace a Skirk Prospector? Give those Goblin Piledrivers trample and stop chump blocks.

Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is worth considering imo. I think 1x of him will start popping up in legacy decks.

I like and run 2x Ancient Tomb, but people who play gobs have mixed feelings about them.

Boseiju, Who Shelters All?

Boggart Mob can get pretty out of control with Krenko, Mob Boss and the champion effect lets you retrigger a creature like Goblin Matron or Goblin Ringleader. Same with Lightning Crafter.

Sparksmith used to be popular for larger removal, but he hurts like hell. Might save you against reanimator decks and the like since you get more than one use out of him, unlike Gempalm Incinerator.Looks like fun!

Bxbx on Grenzo, Havoc Raiser, Blood in, Blood out!

1 week ago

Hi, I like your deck!

Here are some suggestions:

cuelix on Sidar Kondo: give them toys ...

2 weeks ago

Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! I appreciate the token generators you've linked RazortoothMtg the deck can't really do what it wants to do without them!

Oh my gosh I just realized just how much Bident of Thassa would pull some weight in this deck, I really like that one! Grenzo, Havoc Raiser seems like a must include now that he's been suggested as well!

Suns_Champion: Disrupt Decorum gives me so much inspiration to play red in commander, I just love some of the chaos red has access to!

I just prefer when I am conveniently placed out of the effects of said chaos. For that reason I usually prefer Fumiko the Lowblood over Avatar of Slaughter. That being said Fumiko can get the party started and Avatar can finish the job!

Still really uncertain whether I wanna go WURG or WBRG, blue can incentivize attacks with possible card draw a la ludevic, edric, and curse of verbosity and can even redirect attacks with Illusionist's Gambit / Portal Mage. But I think I'm more comfortable giving my opponents little weeny creature tokens that I can prepare my deck to deal with than I am offering them extra cards that might totally unravel my strategy! For that reason I believe Curse of Disturbance beats Curse of Verbosity in this situation. Black also has the cards that insure that if someone gets fed up and wipes the board I get to benefit from it with all the death triggers!

Thanks for all the helpful discussion! Feel free to comment further if you have any other ideas!

Suns_Champion on Sidar Kondo: give them toys ...

2 weeks ago

Fun idea!

Goad effects. I echo the call for Grenzo, Havoc Raiser.

Disrupt Decorum is my personal favorite!

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