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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Legendary Creature — Goblin Rogue
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, choose one —
• Goad target creature that player controls.
• Exile the top card of that player's library. Until the end of turn, you may cast that card and you may spend mana as though it were many of any color to cast it.
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Grenzo, Havoc Raiser Discussion
6 days ago
Oh, also, I think you could use a little more card draw. Syphon Mind is a personal favorite of mine. Sign in Blood , Night's Whisper , and Promise of Power are pretty popular, as well. As for more ramp, you might like Victory Chimes as a political tool, and the Goad mechanic might also suit your needs. Get Disrupt Decorum and Grenzo, Havoc Raiser in there! Same for Goblin Spymaster .
3 weeks ago
Hey Liquidbeaver! I’ve been keeping an eye on this deck for some time now and I’m proud to say I have joined the ranks of avid In devotees lol. My meta already has a Krenko, Mob Boss and a Grenzo, Havoc Raiser deck but I am steadily working toward making them understand that while they may be powerful Ib is and forever will be the one true king of goblin tribal!
Favorite game so far I started the turn with just Ib and a Goblin Sledder on board. Floated all the mana I could and sacrificed my mountains to make 8 tokens. Mogg Infestation ed myself and Reverberate d it. Turning 10 total into 20. And then 20 to 40. From there it was just a Goblin War Strike and a Fork and my two remaining opponents were done!
I think my favorite part about the deck so far is definitely the fact that there are just so many avenues to victory. So many ways to kill your opponents and get them even when they think you’re dead in the water and they have nothing to worry about. Truly a work of art man. Cheers
1 month ago
Some other ideas: Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs , No Mercy , Marchesa's Decree , Dread , Vigor , Grenzo, Havoc Raiser , Royal Assassin , Pir, Imaginative Rascal , Awakening Zone , From Beyond , Dictate of Erebos , Dolmen Gate , AEther Membrane , Tree of Perdition , Whip of Erebos
Seem So-so: koskun falls - depends on number of players but not a lot of tax otherwise. Meren - doesn't work with tokens and not as a commander might not be worth it. Mogis - not much token syn. Dual nature - doesn't work with tokens. Greater good - the deck doesn't have a ton of big creatures to sac. Primal vigor - great syn but can be very dangerous. Yawgmoth's vile offering - not bad, but not a ton of legendary creatures in the deck.
1 month ago
My best suggestion is Sundial of the Infinite This turns anything temporary into something permanent. Exile at end of turn become "keep forever". Steal until end of turn becomes "Keep Forever". Anything that ruins your turn like cyclonic rift counter it with sundial.
- Draw: Mono red is difficult to come across draw you usually either have to wheel or rely on artifacts here are a few of my favorites.
- Endless Atlas
- Infiltration Lens
- Mask of Memory
- Culling Dais
Steal: Red does not have a lot of good removal but it's great at stealing stuff. My favorite strategy is steal and then kill whatever you stole by sacrificing it.
- Conquering Manticore
- Zealous Conscripts Goes infinite Kiki or Splinter twin also great with blade of selves removing the biggest threat.
- Mass Mutiny
- Captivating Crew
Insurrection end the game or steal it all then kill it all for an explosive second Main phase
Copy & Tokens: cards that can create copies of your stuff.
- Blade of Selves Create 3 tokens instead of just one and can repeat.
- Splinter Twin a second kiki
- Feldon of the Third Path
- Mirror March not yet released but keep your eyes on it.
- Mimic Vat
Life & Fight & Death: Great creatures for you to copy.
- Combat Celebrant Goes infinite with kiki and splinter twin
- Balefire Dragon
- Wurmcoil Engine
- Thermopod free sac outlet or mana
- Fellwar Stone Better then a few of the rocks you have.
- Caged Sun
- Pyromancer's Goggles
- Ruby Medallion
- Rogue's Passage
- Maze of Ith Protect your key attacker or protect yourself
- Gratuitous Violence Only doubles your damage
- Disrupt Decorum
- Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
- Basalt Monolith Goes infinite with rings of brighthearth
- Breath of Fury Goes infinite with Raka
- Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit Goes infinite with thornbite staff
- Nim Deathmantle Goes infinite with ashnod's altar and raka
Have fun going through and choosing stuff from the list and worst part of all cuts in your own deck.
1 month ago
Phyrexian Infiltrator has in its activation cost thus is Dimir color identity.
And maybe if your playgroup tries to hate you out of the game Stunning Reversal might help leave you in it to keep the fun rolling.
1 month ago
Thanks a lot for commenting! You gave me some interesting suggestions.
The Neheb subtheme is like a backup plan. I was also considering to cut something else for Mana Geyser and get a huge Comet Storm. Or maybe cast Varchild for the 7th time, which is always a downside of Voltron decks.
I was thinking the other day that Cloudstone Curio is not all that great because I have very little creatures. Plus it's like a 15$ card, so there's that as well! haha
For Repercussion I was thinking that it might not be optimal with all the Survivor tokens, but it's definitely a great card. I think that as you say it is quite correct to include.
Slate of Ancestry is quite amazing! I didn't know that card at all. Even if you have only 4 or 5 Survivors, your hand is probably one or two cards. And drawing half a deck seems powerful as well! :D
The thing with Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip is that I have a promo version of that card, which looks sweet! But you're probably right, Outpost Siege is almost always better, the flip side of Vance's Cannons is not that exciting.
I'm also surprised not to have Rogue's Passage here! I must have misspelled or something when I was posting the list, but that card is an auto-include in this deck! hahaha :D
Thanks a lot for commenting! Your comment has been super helpful! You gave me a ton of includes for this deck.
1 month ago
This looks like a really fun deck! My monored deck has Etali, Primal Storm as the commander and Grenzo, Havoc Raiser in the 99 and it's really fun to play, though I get a lot of attention/disruption from the rest of the table so I run a lot of defensive cards like Defense Grid and Price of Glory on top of War's Toll. I run the Strionic Resonator and Paradox Engine combo in mine and bet it could work with Grenzo too, despite being riskier. Since you're running quite a bit of equipment and Hammer of Nazahn, have you considered the Godo + Helm combo? Lots of other useful applications for those two cards too!
1 month ago
Very nice deck! I've found it a fun challenge to balance the voltron/token/political mix of Varchild. And it's got a Neheb theme? Lovely!
Not sure how well Cloudstone Curio is going to work for you... you don't seem to have enough creatures to consistently bounce Varchild with it.
One card you might not know is Slate of Ancestry. After you gain control of all your survivors, you can discard your hand to draw half your deck :)
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is a great way to get some card advantage with your survivors.
Trading Post is another great value card. Whatever you have a lot of you can dump for what you need.
Suprised not to see Rogue's Passage.
Fatal Frenzy is a great buff then sac card. Everything you want for 3 mana.
That's all for now. Check out my Varchild deck for more ideas! I Will Survive | Varchild EDH
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