Creature — Human Wizard
(1): Add (Black) to your mana pool.
|Want (2)||jon.lamm.88 , garyslays|
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Bog Initiate Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
I'd like to throw in Joiner Adept in tribute to the whole: Green is the one who fixes your mana on a large scale with the full palette.
I really don't think this effect should be on a land card. Drawback or no drawback, fixing on a large scale is not something every color can do. Many colors (mostly in the older days) have ways to funnel mana into their own colors; Bog Initiate, Farrelite Priest, Manaforge Cinder. Blue have had a lot of ways to change their (or others') lands into a different land type all together, like on Realmwright, but not the full palette.
2 months ago
Nice, one thing I might suggest is some more tutors to tutor up some of the combo pieces. The ones not in here already in black are: Booster Tutor to open a pack of Core Set 2019 for Reassembling Skeleton or a pack of Invasion or Fifth Edition for Initiates of the Ebon Hand or Bog Initiate, or Amonkhet for Embalmer's Tools, or the respective pack for any of the combo pieces, if you want to play casual and your playgroup allows silver-bordered cards. Also: Cruel Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Grim Tutor, or Rhystic Tutor. Also some possibilities for some card draw to get pieces of the combo are: Aladdin's Lamp, Book of Rass, and Conch Horn. This link has some more card draw. Ignore the multicolored cards as I forgot to exclude colors on the gatherer.
10 months ago
I have a similar deck with an infinite combo of Ashnod's Altar , Reassembling Skeleton , and Bog Initiate . With something like blood artist this makes an infinite combo. But even if you choose not to use this, Reassembling Skeleton is one of the best repeatable death fodders around and you should definitely consider it.
10 months ago
Love this deck! I'm in the process of building a very similar one. I wish thrumming stone weren't so darn expensive! I'm sure when I buy one they'll immediately reprint it, or ban it...
I've compiled a list of cards I'm considering that aren't in your deck. I expect that many of them are cards you either: 1. Thought about and decided against. 2. Didn't want to shell out the cash for, (I feel ya) 3. Don't use in your play group. (I noticed you've got no tutors. A card like Mausoleum Secrets is very affordable and super strong in this deck. If your playgroup or you personally avoid tutors for balance/powerlevel/gameplay reasons, I commend you.) Hopefully there's a card or two in this list that make you say "oooh!", because your deck certainly got that reaction from me! Bloodbond March is INSANE and it's only 50 cents!
If any of these cards are like... aggressively bad, let me know so I don't put them in my deck, haha. I'm assuming you've actually assembled and playtested the deck, whereas I am still residing in the magical christmas land of my mind.
Erebos, God of the Dead
Archfiend of Depravity
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
Butcher of Malakir
Journey to Eternity Flip
Dictate of Erebos
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
I haven't put much thought into what you would cut if you like any of these, aside from Blighted Fen . Once you get Bontu's Monument , Herald's Horn , or Jet Medallion out, Blighted Fen and any basic forests you end up with are gonna feel bad. Initiates of the Ebon Hand and Bog Initiate are spicy ways to fix the issue, but they are also... bad.
Side note: I'm curious how Rancor would be in this deck. It's a weird cost/benefit analysis because of course you want as many rats as possible, but when you can rancor to boost your sac creature +2/+0, then it pops back into your hand every time, it seems like the recursion value might add up. Also allows you to trample through extra damage on one player if they're gaining life. Anyone feel free to explain why Rancor is a dumb idea in this deck :)
1 year ago
1 year ago
I definitely understand hanging on to pet cards ( Head Games is one of mine). I've actually never run no-max-hand-size in my Chainer deck, but my meta isn't cutthroat and doesn't exhibit much 'yard exile (yet?) so I just use my normal discard most times to pitch something I want to reanimate. Otherwise it's almost draw-land-go. For frequent bits of lifegain I have several sources, but one I'd considered recently was Polluted Bonds .
If you're going to include an infinite mana piece to go with Rings , you might consider Deserted Temple to go with any of your ritual lands instead of Basalt Monolith (which could only be turned to by Bog Initiate ). It's not a budget card, but even without Rings it nearly doubles the ritual lands and allows double usages of some of your other utility lands.
Infinite mana may not be necessary in your deck with all the boosters and such — I've never needed infinite mana to loop Gary or Koko enough to kill the table whenever I've used them. I do have infinite mana capabilities in my current deck since it needs that much mana for some versions of its loops that aren't self-sustaining.
Edit: I don't think there are any other infinites with Rings currently in your deck, though infinite mana would enable some other infinite or just broken stuff.
1 year ago
Goodness, Rings of Brighthearth has a LOT going for it, I’ll say, but the price tag sort of strikes a heavy blow against it. I’d also need a place to cut into for it which doesn’t fudge up the smoothness of flow that the deck already maintains. Any suggestions on that front? I’d like to hear a good selection... maybe 3 or 4, and with reasoning behind the choices for potential cut, if that’s okay? Note that Yahenni, Undying Partisan is already out ( Bog Initiate has replaced them), and Hypnotic Specter is on his way out as well for the Plaguecrafter .
Thank you again for the suggestions and support. It means a lot to have this sort of counsel!