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At the beginning of your upkeep, investigate. (Put a colourless Clue artifact token onto the battlefield with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
, Sacrifice three Clues: Search your library for a card and put that card into your hand. Then shuffle your library.
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Tamiyo's Journal Discussion
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1 month ago
This is a great start. Here are some suggestions from a Trostani deck that I use, organized by pricing tiers to help keep this deck budget:
3/3 Tokens and another way to populate
Alternate Win Condition. Probably works better with Trostani as commander due to the increased life gain, but there's quite a bit of life gain in this deck regardless, so it may work.
Some token protection
Get a variety of tokens out quick
Advent of the Wurm
Just a decent token to populate later
Fog with populate. Optional, but not too bad
White Sun's Zenith
Utilize that mana and go wide
Speaking of going wide, mega populate
Just get some dudes on the board
Board wipe with a token upside
Go wide with a little extra damage, and still have some blockers left
Tamiyo's Journal A slow tutor, but might draw you some cards if you can't get to the tutor
$1 - $5
Potentially double your board, with 4/4 fliers!
Another mass token maker, but with 1/1 fliers (evasion is nice)
Alternate win condition. Probably better with Trostani as commander as you need to be able to absorb a loss of 50 life, but even in commander, most other people won't be able to say the same.
Win condition. With a wide board, +5/+5 is huge. Also creatures enter the battlefield with the +5/+5, so with Trostani out that's some good extra life gain.
Consistent way to get some decent tokens. Also protection from flying
Life gain, removal, mill protection, and tutor? This card just has value.
Again, designed for Trostani to double up on life gain, but helps with any ETB effects you have, of which there are a couple
Should be in any white token deck
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Create creatures, get rid of big threats, maybe get your team in the air
Often a one-sided boardwipe, makes a ton ot tokens, and will sometime just win the game
Chord of Calling
Green tutor with convoke. You have a bunch of tokens, why not?
Green Sun's Zenith
Potentially reusable creature tutor. have to have the mana available, but it will find answers for you.
Not exactly budget, but valuable in a token deck
Artifact and Enchantment Tutor. Again, not really budget, but likely worth it in your deck
1 month ago
Potential stuff to cut:
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite (Good but costy...), Crawlspace (Who attacks here?), Tamiyo's Journal + Thraben Inspector Combo (Huh... No more mass repeatable tutoring I guess; unless one can suggest something that's not Ring of Three Wishes ( is bad at counters as a whole... :/), anything overcosted (Planar Bridge or even Mangara's Tome.), I don't even know what to replace w/...), Strionic Resonator (This is Plausible; I dunno if I should cut it...), Icy Manipulator (the cost is severe; & can only apply to one opponent w/o Paradox Engine...), Vedalken Orrery (Having Flash is good, but is it good here?), Aegis of the Gods (Is having Hexproof in this case good?), Farrelite Priest (A mediocre Mana Dork...), Several other ETB/CIP Creatures (This is noted as Eldrazi Displacer is booted.), Possibly Ashes of the Abhorrent (VERY Similar to Grafdigger's Cage. Is this good?), & that's all I can think of... Is this a good assortment of cuts, hkhssweiss? I'm just doing some guesses on this for now...
1 month ago
@hkhssweiss: All right. I suppose I can deal w/ those two; at least they're better than (Insert Boros Partner Duo from Battlebond.). That said; It'll be nuts if I can switch the 99 to 98. If Aurelia is to be removed from the equation, I wonder how these two can be useful for a Value Town/Stax/Prison Deck. Oh, and more questions; should you choose to accept them:
As I'm using Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric, what cards do you think would work well w/ them in a cEDH environment? I currently have Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool, but I believe I can think of better while lowering CMC.
Tamiyo's Journal + Thraben Inspector seems Sketchy for a combo; though Inspector seems useful on his own; but what card to use if Tamiyo's Journal is too much? I mean ALL the Artifact Tutors seem too hefty; & nobody likes them in the slightest, even in Boros...
What do you think of the following?: Panharmonicon/Strionic Resonator (Doubling ETB/CIP effects seems great here...), Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus/Lotus Petal (Infinite Turns is rarely thought about, but I dunno about Petal on its own...), Aegis of the Gods (I probably am the only one here who thinks this is good...), Paradox Engine (What? I don't even run Isochron Scepter for something Ugin's Nexus can do better.), Farrelite Priest (Err... Better than Gold Myr? At least has a Dork...), Priest of Urabrask (ETB w/ Red's idea of Dark Ritual is always a good thing.), Spirit of the Labyrinth (IMO, the only thing Boros has to the Chains of "What the Hell is your name you friggen n00b! God..."), Palace Sentinels (Monarch is great, but I want to ask: Does Flickering or even Recurring them automatically make another, currently the Monarch give the role to me again? If not, this is a cut.), Goblin Chainwhirler (Damaging foes is great & all; all while NOT targeting them, but is this still worth it?), Grafdigger's Cage/Ashes of the Abhorrent (Some of the best of this deck. But it also locksdown Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan in some ways. Chop it?), Resplendent Mentor (Most o the creatures here are anyway, but since you Mentioned Treasonous Ogre, why would one think he's better than Priest of Urabrask? Gaining life will only make you a primary target for Dethroned...), Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite (7 Drop, & powerful as a staple. Is she worth keeping though?), &... that's it I guess... I wonder what your thoughts on this is; as I need to drop to less than CMC 2 anyway... Now if you don't mind, I'm Switching Commanders (Again...). Now I have 98 problems to deal with...
1 month ago
As for suggested cards, I agree with BS-T that there are a few cards in here that will tend to under perform, especially the larger legendary creatures. I'm saying that they are bad, just that you shouldn't rely of getting Helm of the Host to make it work. You have the right idea when it comes to putting in cards like Ancient Stone Idol, Blightsteel Colossus, Sharding Sphinx. Getting a token of one of these cards is almost gonna guarantee you a victory. These are the kinds of cards that you wanna be running. So lets add some cards that do this.
Cards like Reef Worm, Scuttling Doom Engine, and Hangarback Walker are gonna protect you from the inevitable board wipe. Lets be honest if you're playing tokens, board wipes will all kill you. And people will definitely be saving them to use on you.
Efficient Construction, Tamiyo's Journal, Clone Legion, and Metallurgic Summonings will help you rebuild your board state just in case you're on the receiving end of a Cyclonic Rift. A card that has become far too common in the commander/EDH format.
I hope that my suggestions help you in some way. I tried to explain my reasoning as best I could. Either way the important thing is that you have the information. However you decide to use it is up to you.
1 month ago
There are a number of things I'd consider a bit underwhelming, either for the format or for how Brudiclad plays. For example, in my experience you don't want to rush your commander out in this case - he is best played on or a turn before you are going to swing city, so the Loyal Drake and Apprentice don't get you as much value in practice as in theory. Similarly Geode Golem, you want B-man in before combat not after.
If you are looking for Fireball or BSZ to be an alternative win condition - drop in a Rings of Brighthearth for your Basalt Monolith to be infinite BFFs with! There options for direct damage that are better when you don't have the mana combo online too, like Comet Storm or Jaya's Immolating Inferno, maybe Banefire depending on your playgroup. Another infinite combo is to use a Zealous Conscripts for Kiki-Jiki to play with.
Other stuff I'm not jazzed with would be:
- Mind Stone
- Mind's Eye (does nothing in multiples, is mana intensive, and blue should be able to do 'draw' better)
- Chief of the Foundry (what's another +1/+1 when you're turning a million of your guys into 6/12 tramplers or 6/6 flying dragons)
- Pia Nalaar's buffs are also pretty limited.
- OG Jhoira has very little to do with the strategy as far as I can see, other than you can cheat some of your fatties in - but then you need more clone spells to get tokens of them that you can copy, Quasiduplicate, Fated Infatuation and as previously said, Cackling Counterpart.
- Also you can't copy Ulamog effectively unless you are using Helm of the Host so something like Bane of Bala Ged which can gobble up those clone spells may even be better.
Tawnos is a borderline one, he's only good some of the time but I do like that he can double up Mimic Vat or Mirrorworks (could be a good add). Tamiyo's Journal and Kuldotha Forgemaster are excellent as a producer and user respectively of your overactive artifact factory.
OK, I've said loads, hope you think it's somewhat helpful. I'd love your and others counterpoints too. Here is my +1 and especially for including Shared Animosity - that is nifty!
1 month ago
NOTE: This is a topic regarding cEDH Boros. If you think there is no hope for it, do NOT post on this. (The Bold should be warning enough...)
After trying to cut some stuff to 100 for some things, I realized, there is some others to do regarding one deck:
Commander / EDH*
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I previously wanted this to be Tier 3, as one joke cEDH deck (Depala, of all things.), did this. But this is a serious attempt by all means. That said, I'll mention some things worth note to get at least just a little bit closer to my goal:
- Red Elemental Blast, or Pyroplast?
Both of their most recent prints state their abilities differently. Pyroblast has:
Choose one — • Counter target spell if it's blue. • Destroy target permanent if it's blue.
Red Elemental Blast?
Choose one — • Counter target blue spell. • Destroy target blue permanent.
This seems written differently; but I dunno how this is different from the others. Regardless, cEDH usually smiles upon . So I'll leave it to you to decide...
This is a biggie. One person not known for cEDH believes this is a real dud of a wincon. But I'd like some opinions o this. If this really does suck, at least that's 3 cuts so far. Aside from this, Grand Abolisher does wonders here.
This is new as I found that Magistrate's Scepter is just one target for counters; something I know FOR A FACT Boros is NOT good at in the slightest (There, a minus. See? I can agree w/ you too. 0-^) Prototype Portal can imprint any artifact; which can range from an infinite mana via Lotus Petal, or Infinite Turns w/ Ugin's Nexus. Problem? I have little to nothing to destroy the copy is opposed to exiling it. Plus, this is quite expensive; but I don't want to use Final Fortune + Sundial of the Infinite loops; they can be disrupted; besides, this is the only option left (Gonti's Aether Heart is more expensive anyway.). Bonus points for infinite mana in case Ugin's Nexus is a skip. I'll let you decide.
- How the bloody devil is Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite a staple?!
I'm confused about this; happy, but confused. Usually stuff lower than 3 CMC would be fine; but one cEDH Staples lists actually lists her on the main list. runs Dorks, & so few even reach a 3+ toughness. Should I get rid of her for CMC's sake? or should I keep her as a Gamekiller?
W/ so many doing stuff outside of Lifeloss/lifegain, this should be very important to note as others would either Self-Mill via Laboratory Maniac, Maze's End a game, basically put; Wincons that don't depend on Life Total. So, should I put in stuff like these, Goblin Chainwhirler, or other things that can kill life totals? Otherwise, I at least have Altar of the Brood to mill everyone else... XP
After knowing about creatures outside of that can produce Mana, I decided Neheb, the Eternal is no longer enough (It actually requires Damage dealing to make it work; so, I'm thinking of cutting him; considering nobody really wants to damage anyways.). While I could flicker [Farrelite Priest]] & make her new, w/o previous memory, I want to leave it to you; w/ so much Devotion to , Should I rather increase the amount of Plains & decrease the number of Mountains? (I have Blood Moon Anyway...). If she is crap to you, I want to know why; I cannot run Avacyn's Pilgrim you know.
Yes, I get it. Tamiyo's Journal is the only Target of this inspector. That said, Tamiyo's Journal can search for anything. Problem? One target. Not consistent enough, & nobody is recommending a card like Tamiyo's Journal that can also work on its own... Ideas are welcome.
This combo came to me in the form of an Epiphany. After I blow up all lands, I can flicker Fiend Hunter exiling Sun Titan to bring all my lands back; yes, this is possible. Since Lands are 0CMC Permanents, I can bring them all back to my side. even a combo like this can't be stopped by the next part of this charade...
Some of the best cards in this deck so far. It promotes a Prison-Lock for all Graveyards in play. Since this deck should be able to have effects that bypass both of these; I just want to know what to cut due to these...
- I still need an explanation for Rule of Law/Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm + Knowledge Pool.
This also applies to what I can use for Arcane Laboratory in . This combo has been looked up, but I dunno how it'll work here... It should be useful, but I dunno if it's cEDH competitive or not; much less how it works. If this is good both ways, I'm keeping them. At least tell me how it works, please...
- Squee Sucks?
Squee, the Immortal + Goblin Bombardment was meant to be used as a combo here. But since this uses Eldrazi Displacer to flicker ETB/CIP Creatures, I'm thinking of cutting the former 2 unless I can find a card that mimics Displacer's effect, so I don't have to have just one of such effect to waste... Felidar Guardian?
- The Emancipation Proclamation NEVER happened...
Emancipation Angel is something not to be cross with. She can return any permanent you control to your hand. Simple as that. Since it's an ETB ability, Eldrazi Displacer can bounce her, & she can do this again. If you want a list of Creatures in my deck that are ETB/CIP based, SUGOI! LET'S KICK As- Captain Janeway: Asteroids. Seven of Nine: Fun will now commence.
(Yes. I LITERALLY pulled off a Star Trek: Voyager.)
Duergar Hedge-Mage Fiend Hunter Goblin Chainwhirler Goblin Settler Imperial Recruiter Mentor of the Meek Mikaeus, the Lunarch Priest of Urabrask Recruiter of the Guard Solemn Simulacrum Sun Titan Thraben Inspector Village Bell-Ringer Wall of Omens Wily Goblin
(Damn, that's a lot... I need to lessen the lot...)
- No Paradox Engine? What the crap?
Paradox Engine is the only thing I have to Isochron Scepter imprinting Dramatic Reversal, so it NEEDS to stay; plus, I could've sworn it was a staple here... While this has quite some ETB/CIP effects, that doesn't have to mean things can't be cast either. Even stuff like Sunforger when casting instants are still considered cast. Even Mistveil Plains can bring them back. I really just wanted to throw in Reito Lantern, though; but cards like Grafdigger's Cage might mess w/ it; so it's now a skip.
- Stax on STACKS on [email protected]
Recently, I wanted to take this deck to a differing route; Value Town/Stax/Prison. This in turn meant a lot of stuff; Glowrider, Thorn of Amethyst (How fitting as it's my birthstone; but I still hated how STEVEN UNIVERSE personified her as a character since the beginning... :/), Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare, Ethersworn Canonist, Kismet, even Sphere of Resistance is damn good here. While a lot would think stuff like this is crap here, even stuff like Stranglehold, Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Grand Abolisher, even Ugin's Nexus & Defense Grid are all great here. Irony? Many wouldn't see all this as competitive enough. So, w/ all that said, one last thing...
- Any ideas for a new CMDR?
Alright, we're almost done with what might be my longest post here ever... I've been thinking for the longest time; I need a new commander; Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is too much now. Since I took the liberty to change from Stax/Control (Or Value Town/Stax? I dun remember...) to Value Town/Stax/Prison. From there, I decided to make a change of CMDR. But there were bigger flaws w/ most, so I decided to make some regulations:
- No Tier 5 CMDRs.
- No Tribal Commanders (Stuff like Depala, Pilot Exemplar apply here.)
- Partners are only Allowed if not from BBD (Battlebond) (Khorvath Brightflame + Sylvia Brightspear for instance is not allowed.)
- Equipment/Aura Based CMDRS are out; I don't have any of that anyway...
I guess this is alright? The reason I left out 5. It must be Aggro Based is, well, the rest of the Tier 4s w/o only counting none of them.
Now I leave all this to you: What should I cut for a legit Tier 3 cEDH deck? I apologize for the Mammoth Sized Text, but it should be worth the effort.
I am open to Constructive Criticism only. I hope this is of good help for what is worth of help to me. I'll let you decide on my fate on this deck now.