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Discard a card: Vampires you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Activate this ability only once each turn.
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Stromkirk Condemned Discussion
1 week ago
The thing about Modern is unless you're playing a monocolored deck you can't really get away with using all basic lands and expect good results. If you have anything resembling a budget, the place I recommend starting is finding the cheapest fetch lands in your colors, possibly trading up, and getting ahold of a set of the fast lands and shock lands. In plain terms you'd at least want 4 each of Bloodstained Mire, Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt. In interest of working on a budget I'll mention Dragonskull Summit isn't the best dual land but it did just get reprinted. Yes... Modern unfortunately has a pretty steep buy-in, mostly in lands, but once you have them they'll be used in many, many future projects.
Now... Where to start with your card choices? I understand and can very much see this is a work in progress, so I'll just be honest with you and say most of these are just... kinda bad, no offense.
Okay, I'll list off some better choices with synergy: you have Falkenrath Gorger. That's a step in the right direction. Next up I'd take a look at the following cards: Stromkirk Condemned, Stromkirk Captain. These two plus Gorger lets your guys get huge fast and makes them significantly harder to kill in combat, especially since off of Gorger you can flash in Captain as you're attacking so your Gorger and Condemned are suddenly a pair of 4 power first strike fatties on turn 3. The next two are Bloodghast and Asylum Visitor. Both are good discard options with or without Gorger and Visitor is 3 power for 2 CMC, and also a pseudo Dark Confidant if you play her correctly. Almost literally everything this deck could want in a 2 drop. The next two are beaters that function as discard outlets to keep the flow of your deck running steady: Heir of Falkenrath and Smuggler's Copter. Yes, a vehicle. I recommend Heir to anyone who can't afford Liliana of the Veil. It's a cheaper and much more aggressive way to discard, besides being a 2 mana version of Delver of Secrets for vamps.
Those enchantments are terrible. Call the Bloodline is my pick for the worst vampire support card in existence that's not Feast of Blood (that card is all kinds of terrible). For your noncreatures, it's your call in regard to draw spells but I'd only keep Faithless Looting at most. For removal, you want mostly generic stuff. Try and trade for a set of Fatal Push, Lightning Bolt and Terminate, then mix/match them as your meta dictates. Kolaghan's Command if you can get one might be useful as a one-of. It's not a great card but for flavor/support you can play around with Urge to Feed as well.
After all is said and done, with any space you have left, you can try to squeeze in as many Vampire Nocturnus, Gatekeeper of Malakir, Gifted Aetherborn, Vampire Nighthawk, or Olivia, Mobilized for War as you want. I like the idea of a one-of Captivating Vampire if most of your guys are small. You could main or even side Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Olivia Voldaren, both of which are strong enough to side or sometimes main in non-vampire meta decks. Kalastria Highborn or Viscera Seer can be okay insurance cards if you're fearing a boardwipe.
I think the most important thing I'll tell you here is that too many discard outlets is bad. Don't fret too much about madness or not, you have gorger, and if you can save up for bloodghast/visitor you should be fine. You don't wanna be casting your killspells at sorcery speed too often. This is why if you can only take one Bolt is better than Fiery Temper.
1 week ago
Dismember doesn't belong in black. It's basically a removal spell meant to be played in everything else ironically enough. If you're going black-red, you have access to a TON of better removal than what you have here. Fatal Push is among the best cards in Modern, as is Lightning Bolt, as is Terminate. I assume your budget is too low for Liliana 3 mana variants or Kolaghan's Command or Collective Brutality? Well, even without Liliana you can create a pretty cheap engine with Falkenrath Gorger, Stromkirk Condemned, Asylum Visitor, Bloodghast, Stromkirk Captain and Smuggler's Copter. You'd be so much quicker and more effective if you just ran these guys, and the only money card in there is 'ghast. Maybe toss in like Vampire Nocturnus, Captivating Vampire or Sanctum Seeker if you want more lords, or Heir of Falkenrath if you want extra beaters. Olivia, Mobilized for War could go in the deck too. There's an older engine that used Viscera Seer, Bloodghast, Kalastria Highborn and/or Blood Artist if you wanna try the Aristocrats route. Aside from Nocturnus, that engine now has Falkenrath Aristocrat and Voldaren Pariah Flip to play with.
1 week ago
I really like the use of One with Nothing. The thing with the deck is it looks like it is trying too hard to do too much all at once. With just two cards here and two cards there, you lack consistency in play. Try to find the cards that work the best together and use 3 or 4 of them. Unless your opponent / meta is really into things like Surgical Extraction, there's really no reason to not do it this way.
For example, if you are trying to not only discard a card AND pay it's Madness cost AND pay Olivia's Bloodsworn's ability, that's basically going to be the same as if you just played the card. You're using you resources in a non-efficient manner.
And while Ravenous Bloodseeker may be appealing at first, unless you are using cards like Distemper of the Blood, your Bloodseeker is going to end up dying to a 1/1 chump blocker. You can protect her with a Stromkirk Captain, but you don't have them in here. So, she's going to die.
BTW a great removal for a Vampire tribal deck is Feast of Blood and you should always run 4x.
But back on point, it may be harder to bring out Stromkirk Condemned over Ravenous Bloodseeker because you require two specific colors () rather than a generic and one specific (), but Stromkirk boosts all of your Vamps - therefore he is more effective, and more effective = better.
You have a really good base to work with. Keep play testing and find out which cards combo the best together, and which cards ultimately feel "slow", "sluggish" or "off". Replace those cards with the ones that you find work the best with others.
1 week ago
Well more in terms of current modern meta. Like I kind of had the idea of following Jund's lead because it's an established strategy and I liked it because it really embraces the concept of Black as a color. A deck like yours plays so completely differently but it honestly is really nice in regard to synergies. I was of the mind at one point madness vamps should go all-in on the madness mechanic but now I'm of the mind that Bloodghast and Asylum Visitor are cards you'd be playing anyway, just run Condemned and Copters/Lilianas and play the rest of the deck normally.
Cards I'd want to run if I were doing straight tribal are some combination of Vampire Nocturnus, Stromkirk Captain and/or Captivating Vampire, Gatekeeper of Malakir, Gifted Aetherborn, Stromkirk Condemned, Bloodghast, Asylum Visitor, Stromkirk Noble, Vampire Lacerator or Falkenrath Gorger, probably Viscera Seer. I really like Olivia Voldaren and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet but I'm not seeing them in most current vampire lists just because they don't fit the strategy. I obviously want about 7-9 removal (Push, Bolt, Terminate, MAYBE K command), and I feel like Liliana and Copter help here, but as you can see, 60 cards would not have space to do everything I want with this idea.
There's a classic version of my deck that was very tempo-oriented on my profile, before the madness cards started coming out. I was very happy playing that for years but now it feels outdated.
3 weeks ago
Leyline of the Meek and Stromkirk Condemned really aren't necessary. Given the fact that your commander IS an anthem, plus you have a bunch of other pump cards in the deck.Be careful with Belbe's Portal. You're still paying 3 for a single vampire. Do you really need it?
Fervor could be taken out. There are better haste enablers.
1 month ago
2 months ago
I like the Madness Vampire route that was in standard (don't know if it holds up in modern): Insolent Neonate, Falkenrath Gorger, Stromkirk Condemned, Asylum Visitor, Olivia's Dragoon, Olivia, Mobilized for War, and Voldaren Pariah Flip as the finisher. Combining them with bloodghasts and additional card advantage can be pretty aggresive.
I understand its a different deck build, but maybe some of these cards can ignite some ideas.
2 months ago
Liliana is amazing on her own and when madnessing things in. But the top performing discard outlet had to be Smuggler's Copter. I would definitely make room for that. Not expensive at all. Cant say enough about the card.
I dont own the list on my page so price isnt something I personally take issue with. Bloodghast should be much more available after IMA.
I would definitely make some room for lords. Stromkirk Condemned is being asked to do a lot on its own here. There feels like too much critical mass, not enough payoff.