Garruk, Apex Predator
Planeswalker — Garruk
+1: Destroy another target planeswalker.
+1: Create a 3/3 black Beast creature token with deathtouch.
-3: Destroy target creature. You gain life equal to its toughness.
-8: Target opponent gets an emblem with "Whenever a creature attacks you, it gets +5/+5 and gains trample until end of turn."
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Garruk, Apex Predator Discussion
2 weeks ago
I like this idea, but the main reason I'm commenting is because of you mentioning Primevals' Glorious Rebirth and Garruk, Apex Predator in a list of presumably "illegal" cards--those are both perfectly legal EDH cards, last time I checked ;)
2 weeks ago
Thanks to the work of tiffanyann for this idea.
We often talk about "Rule 0"; What your deck does, what it's power level is, who your Commander is, if there are any infinite combos, etc.
But sometimes, Rule 0 is to ask the table if using an Unset Commander is okay. If using a Legendary Enchantment or Artifact or Planeswalker in the Command Zone is okay. If running Gisela, the Broken Blade Meld Partnered with Bruna, the Fading Light Meld is okay. Other examples are Stitcher Geralf and Ghoulcaller Gisa as Partners, or Hans Eriksson and Saffi Eriksdotter. Maybe you want to run Sword of Dungeons & Dragons in your D&D themed set. Maybe you want to run Surgeon General Commander. But there's more; Sometimes you want to play with a banned card. Maybe you have this killer Griselbrand build and want to see if it can withstand three opponents.
Rule 0 is important. It doesn't often "require" its own hub, but there are times when it could be useful. And, if the community accepts it as a unique hub, it could also open up more creativity because it pushes up against the boundaries of the RC.
After all, as long as your table is okay with it, then it's fine. If your table is fine with you running Iona, Shield of Emeria or Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Garruk, Apex Predator or Grimlock, Dinobot Leader Flip then there is absolutely no reason why you can't or shouldn't be able to. All of these are not legal for use as Commanders within the Command Zone, but if your table is okay with it, then suddenly they are. Similarly, Iona and Grimlock can't be in the deck, even in the +99. If your table is okay with it, then it's fine.
Similarly, sometimes players build decks that run non-legendary creatures as Commanders. One very popular build is Shaman of the Great Hunt, and to a lesser extent Brutal Hordechief. In fact, one of the most popular decks on this site itself would be classified as Rule 0: Dune: He Who Can Destroy a Thing, Controls a Thing, by FenIsABasicSwamp.
So with that said, I propose Rule 0 as a hub. Since we need to be able to describe it in one or two short sentences;
- "There are many rules to EDH. Rule 0 decks ask the table beforehand if it is okay to run silver-bordered cards, banned cards or cards that would otherwise be 'illegal' in the Command Zone."
4 months ago
Hey Walrighti, +1!
Congrats on your first deck! You have a lot of fun cards in here and it looks great! I imagine you want to tune and make it even more efficient so here are some ideas...
Add 3 categories: #Combo, #Lifegain, and #Evasion; and then sort your maybeboard the same way you've done your mainboard to easily rank your choices within a category (By "combo" I mean all your "if-then" cards like Trudge Garden that are slower and don't work by themselves). Remove #Creatures (most of them are #Combo).
Avoid most cards above 4 cmc... Willowdusk is fast and fragile, so play into that... Also, prioritize cards that can do 2 or more things or that give value on ETB... If you have pet cards that don't really fit and that hurt to cut, put them in a "I'll build that theme later" list.
-1 Pelakka Wurm
-1 Ezzaroot Channeler ... cut the fatties.
-1 Decree of Pain ... too slow
-1 Bow of Nylea ... meh
-1 Sangromancer ... amazing card but doesn't trigger when you need it to.
-1 Venser's Journal ... also amazing, but too conditional for this build
-1 Ranger's Path ... all your ramp should be on turn 2
-1 Temple of the False God ... this card is almost never good
+1 Devoted Druid ... this card is a beast
+1 Talisman of Resilience ... #Ramp
+1 Llanowar Elves ... #Ramp... the elves enable Willowdusk combos on turn 3.
+1 Viridian Joiner ... #Ramp... #Combo
+1 Killing Wave
+1 Massacre Girl ... #Wipe
+1 Beast Within ... #Removal
+1 Golgari Charm ... #Evasion
~1 Rancor ... Trample and haste are important... #Evasion
~1 Destined ... the choices are really good.
+1 Soul Channeling ... #Combo with Willowbark and stick to the board...
~1 Phyrexian Processor ... fun?
~1 Lurking Evil ... maybe?
~1 Solidarity of Heroes ... #Combo
~1 Ooze Flux ... tokens at instant speed?
~1 Retribution of the Ancients ... removal?
+1 Thought Gorger ... (leaves)
+1 Return of the Wildspeaker ... #Draw
+1 Triskelion ... #Combo
+1 Nighthawk Scavenger ... #Fatty
...Always play at least 10 ramp spells under 3 cmc.
...Playtest and make sure Willowbark consistently makes a fatty (with evasion) before turn 6-7.
Happy building :)
RicketyEng on None
4 months ago
Some clarification of Obby's timeline:
1) Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath conquered his home plane then sparked.
2) On his travels/conquests of other planes at some point he was attracted by The Chain Veil 's power. However he was cursed by it when he touched it and started becoming a demon.
3) He travelled to Zendikar in hopes of using its powerful and wild mana to stop or reverse his demonic transformation.
4) Upon his arrival on the plane its protector, Nahiri, the Lithomancer , implanted a hedron in his forehead which robbed him of his spark and caused his wings to wither and eventually die. Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
5) After a few thousand years Jace, the Mind Sculptor was trying to figure out how to help Garruk, the Veil-Cursed . He extracted the hedron from Ob Nixilis's forehead and managed to implant it in Garruk's arm. In both Ob Nixilis and Garruk the hedron had the effect of subduing the veil's curse. It brought some clarity to the mind of Garruk, Apex Predator .
6) I remember reading a story where Ob Nixilis, Unshackled was buried alive and he very gradually dug his way down and toward a power source he could sense. This is how he found the Khalni Heart which he first tried to use to reignite his spark before Nissa, Voice of Zendikar stopped him.
7) Utterly sick and tired of Zendikar at this point, and buried alive once more after his duel with Nissa, Nixilis vowed vengeance on the entire plane. He hijacked the Aligned Hedron Network when the Zendikari momentarily managed to trap Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger . Ob Nixilis Reignited managed to siphon off enough power from Ulamog to reignite his spark. He then broke Ulamog out of the hedron prison and summoned Kozilek to the surface. He took the time to easily defeat Nissa, Gideon, and Jace before leaving, but Chandra showed up in time to rescue them. At that point it wasn't worth the effort to stick around for any more petty vengeance so he left.
8) Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted took part in the War of the Spark. He joined Karn, Samut, and Dack Fayden on their mission to close Tezzeret's Planar Bridge from the Amonkhet side (they travelled through the portal itself because of The Immortal Sun ). Tezzeret didn't put up much of a fight. Nixilis burned large swaths of the remaining Eternal army before planeswalking away.
6 months ago
legendofa: Quality should always be your guide. If you were using all 10 planeswalkers on a single (non-superfriends theme) like for example if they all pumped out tokens and then buffed them, that would be fine. But here you effectively have:
Ajani Steadfast - Really slow way of making your commander a bit bigger. Plays into pillow fort, but pillow fort is not a win condition.
Garruk, Apex Predator - really expensive removal spell.
Kaya, Ghost Assassin - super slow way to draw a card.
Liliana Vess - super slow way to tutor a card.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar - Her pump ability is a neg ability. That's annoying.
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad - I guess his plus makes tokens and he's not stupidly costed, so that's nice. Do you care about tokens though?
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria - He's at least card advantage. A bit expensive but it's a card each turn (let's face it, you don't give a crap about his other abilities 99% of the time) so this is probably a good keep.
Tezzeret the Seeker - A decent equipment tutor, on hte fence about this one. You don't take a huge amount of advantage of artifact untapping, but you've got some decent equipment so eh.
Looking at the planeswalkers, that's kind of what I see here. And don't get me wrong, repeatability is great. But you have to weigh that up against mana cost and frequency of repeatability.
6 months ago
Ataraxey There are four dedicated board wipes ( Cyclonic Rift , Ruinous Ultimatum , In Garruk's Wake , Elspeth, Sun's Champion .). For targeted removal I run the following: Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , Garruk, Apex Predator , Valki, God of Lies Flip(Tibalt side), Erebos, Bleak-Hearted , and as a last resort Cyclonic Rift .
These have been sufficient for most games I've played. I tend to be in slower playgroups that don't combo off on turn 2 or 3. But I'd be happy to include more if you have some suggestions on what to remove for them.
10 months ago
Destroyerbirb - Interesting theory on Kaldheim being the home plane of Garruk, as his homeplane remains unnamed. He certainly has the figure to fit the clichés of Vikings. The one bet against his appearance is that he has shown up rather recently. With the story culminating at War of the Spark, WOTC has stepped away from cross-block storytelling for the time being, and he Flip was just in Eldraine.
Due to Zendikar Rising's odd layout of its lands, being a cycle of Dimir, Boros, Selesnya, Izzet, Gruul, and Orzhov. Wizards has always had cycles of lands completed over two Standard blocks, so the rest should be in Kaldheim. Rakdos, Golgari, Simic, and Azorius should be present, and these combinations may lead to what archetypes will be prominently present, and which planeswalkers align with such archetypes. The Rakdos planeswalker above makes sense with this.
TLDR: I think Kaya is getting another colour combination and that Garruk shan't appear.
Sidenote: Raid is definitely returning as a mechanic. Calling it here.
1 year ago
Are these good as top-end value engines?