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|War of the Spark: Mythic Edition (WARMED)||Mythic Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
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Garruk, Apex Predator
Planeswalker — Garruk
+1: Destroy another target planeswalker.
+1: Create a 3/3 black Beast creature token with deathtouch.
-3: Destroy target creature. You gain life equal to its toughness.
-8: Target opponent gets an emblem with "Whenever a creature attacks you, it gets +5/+5 and gains trample until end of turn."
Garruk, Apex Predator Discussion
3 days ago
This will work with Estrid's +2.
To start, Loyalty Abilities are activated abilities. Like all activated abilities, you pay a cost as part of putting the ability on the stack. In the case of a Loyalty Ability, that cost is adding or removing loyalty counters from the planeswalker.
Estrid's first ability does not target, so you can pay the cost (adding 2 loyalty) and put the ability on the stack, regardless of whether that ability is going to have an effect or not. The ability resolves, and nothing happens, but that's irrelevant to your question--by that point the loyalty has already been put on Estrid.
Notably, however, this will not work if the planeswalker ability requires a target AND there are no legal targets for that ability--you cannot activate a targeted ability (and thus cannot pay the cost of gaining loyalty), unless you are able to satisfy the targeting requirements.
In practice, however, that's not going to be a big deal--Wizards went out of its way to ensure the + loyalty abilities will almost always have a sufficient number of valid targets. This is done in four ways:
The + loyalty ability will say something like "Up to one target" meaning you can choose 0 targets. This allows you to activate the loyalty ability with 0 targets, so you can still "pay" the cost of adding loyalty to your walker. Example: Huatli, Dinosaur Knight .
The planeswalker's ability will always have a target because it can target itself. Example: Ajani Vengeant .
The planeswalker might not be able to activate one of its + loyalty abilities due to lack of valid targets, but will have a second + loyalty ability that can be activated in the absence of targets. Example: Garruk, Apex Predator
The target of the loyalty ability will be an opponent, since you'll always have an opponent. Example: Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver .
So, the only situation where a player can't activate at least one + loyalty ability is going to involve a loyalty ability that requires a target and a complex boardstate rendering all those targets unavailable. For example, if Leyline of Sanctity gives your opponent hexproof, you will not be able to activate Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver 's +2 ability due to a lack of valid targets.
1 month ago
I'm really liking the focus you have here -- duplicate effects for Grave Pact / Dictate of Erebos and the trifecta of Doubling Season , Primal Vigor , and Parallel Lives is great redundancy. In my build I went less redundancy (apart from both Primal Vigor and Doubling Season included) and more card draw, through Fecundity and Smothering Abomination .
My thoughts on your most recent change log: Tana is a valid cut for you, I think. I'm able to get her out on Turn 3 every now and then, turn 2 once so far, and turn 4 almost every game, so there is almost 100% chance someone is getting hit with her. If everyone gets their board state up quick, then she sits back and waits until Reyhan can dump counters on her head or I can give her fear/pump. I'm almost 100% of the time okay trading her into a ton of saprolings after a Kessig Wolf Run pump to kick start my token engines.
Your whole manabase I actually envy, mine has proven to not always give me the red I need so I'm looking at tweaking it a bit here soon.
Yahenni, Undying Partisan is an interesting take-out, he's on my testing list, I think. Gift of Doom looks great, I look forward to hearing out it hold up in testing. Looking elsewhere there isn't much else that would come out instead of Yahenni, Undying Partisan , though, so I think that's the right cut.
I'm gonna be interested to hear how Mana Crypt plays out -- 3 life is not insignificant when it ticks every turn, but I bet the speed really makes up for it. I dislike durdling in my builds when I can help it, so don't run Chromatic Lantern in my current build.
As always, a great source of inspiration here, for sure.
3 months ago
Garruk, Apex Predator best planswalker for oathbreaker. that plus one loyalty is the best
4 months ago
LittleBlueHero, it is in my completely non-professional opinion that Garruk, Apex Predator is among the strongest of Oathbreaker possible as he literally has a +1 to destroy other Planeswalkers. He also builds deadly walls between himself and your opponent, gets you life, and makes all of your creatures basically win conditions. And since he is in Golgari, you have access to some of the nastiest tricks in the game. Effectively, if built right, you can have two libraries (Graveyard synergy).
Partner him up with something powerful like Assassin's Trophy and you have yourself an incredible force.
Having said that, all of the others seem great in their own right if built around. But I think GAP is the most competitive of them.
4 months ago
Although may I make an honest suggestion?
You are already building in ramp. And you need a Golgari Oathbreaker.
Might I suggest instead Garruk, Apex Predator ? You'd be able to cast him, albeit a turn behind, because he is just mana more. Then, you have access to arguably the most powerful Oathbreaker as his +1 is literally to destroy another Planeswalker. If your opponent doesn't run enough removal, you have constant access to 1-shot kills. Then, if your opponent gets a bit too far ahead in life you always have access to his emblem.
Not to mention if you pair him with Cryptolith Rite , his second +1 nets you dorks.
5 months ago
Frank_Glascock I think those are some proper swaps :) Like I said before Garruk, Apex Predator is somewhat of a pet card thats why I run it. Destructor Dragon you should reconsider cause it can destroy lands, Vindictive Lich is something I want to try out and see if it works.
I don't think Pitiless Plunderer is worth the spot. My list runs 10+ tutors, most of the time the first card I go for is Sakura-Tribe Elder . The same reason I don't want to run Awakening Zone I literally don't need the mana. The only thing that would make me pick Awakening Zone over Pitiless Plunderer is the fact that it makes creatures and thus more synergy with Meren.
Victimize I'm currently trying out since it's a back up for meren if I can't keep her on the field. I have many ways of getting stuff in my grave. A simple Victimize can get a Sheoldred back on the table....in Theory...
Krav was a bit of a hard cut. It was a card I actually had quite some time on the table and often he did not performed that much tbh... I think he shines more in a token deck than he does in meren. Cause if you play him mostly for the sac outlet then I think Birthing Pod is better. Talking about birthing Pod, it won me the game last wednesday cause I was able to get all my pieces out of my deck :)
I'm now trying to find a spot for Massacre Wurm . I have it in my binder and was playing (same wednesday) against Krenko and found out that I have ways to deal with krenko, but not with all the tokes he makes :)
5 months ago
Ripwater, I checked the deck. I am playing Sol Ring , Pitiless Plunderer , Fauna Shaman and Sylvan Safekeeper in place of Destructor Dragon , Garruk, Apex Predator , Vindictive Lich , and Necrotic Ooze . I guess I am most surprised you or Control_Train is not playing Sylvan Safekeeper. I can't see that ever getting cut.
5 months ago
Garruk, Apex Predator occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%