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|Commander: Rule 0
Players can't play spells or nonbasic lands with the same name as a nontoken permanent.
9 months ago
@Andramalech Thanks! This is just version 1.0 of this deck. I plan to add more dirtiness to it with some new cards like Cornered Market, but with that I'll have to change up my land base and remove some duplicates.
For some background, our playgroup is 8 people, and we typically have 4-6 people any given Sunday. We play a casual homebrew "budget" 2-headed or 3-headed format. We use vintage as our rules set, meaning we'll allow any cards, but we've had to self restrict cards like Scheming Symmetry and Torment of Hailfire, and make some rules on life loss. Most decks aren't those $4000 turn 1-2 win vintage decks. So a deck like this is really just meant to frustrate the other team, and to help my teammate(s) win. Thanks for the comments, and feel free to throw out any recommendations. :)
1 year ago
Hi. I do think that budget mana bases are a bit inefficient in tricolor, so thanks for those overall ramp recommendations (including artifacts and enchantments and especially The Restoration of Eiganjo Flip). other than the ramp, I do think that Stronghold Machinist is good, because it's reusable counter magic, and the Spy Kit + Cornered Market combo could be good against creature based decks, but I don't have a way to consistently get out Spy Kit, and as for shrines, I like the idea but almost all shrines function with a lot of shrines, so i would have to cut some other things (a zur deck focused on shrines could be fun though). thanks for the overall recommendations
1 year ago
Cool idea with good execution!
Not sure if you are 100% satisfied with your mana base, some stuff like Esper Panorama, Darkwater Catacombs, Skycloud Expanse, and Ash Barrens can help fix your mana, I always find Zur is a hassle to get out without stretching the budget. There are also somewhat worse options like Obscura Storefront, it's worse than Arcane Sanctum but not by a ton. I recently found out about Planar Atlas, but this looks like exactly what Zur needs to get out faster, but I do run Signets and Signet Lands, so I have more use for colourless arguably. If you're using a Sun Titan, any lands that fetch something before going to the Graveyard become pretty strong in my experience, but Myriad Landscape is hilarious if you can recur it.
Not sure if it's outside your budget, but Mirrormade is the cheapest Copy Enchantment I know of that Zur can fetch, and it can also copy an artifact, so if there is a ramp rock out Zur can find mana. Another way Zur can ramp you is The Restoration of Eiganjo Flip, which also turns into a creature. Dance of Many is a pretty interesting option if someone has a really big body out against you, not sure if you face many Blightsteels.
If you like to run Rule of Law effects in Zur, you might enjoy using a little Moderation to fuel you, it's a nice cheap card. If you can draw enough cards, Stronghold Machinist and/or Stronghold Biologist are pretty interesting cards. Obviously better with Necropotence though.
If you have Vanishing on Zur, you can fetch Out of Time to wipe the board in a shockingly thorough manner, if the board is full nothing is coming back. Obviously better if you can copy it before it goes away, but Copy Enchantment and Estrid's Invocation are both pretty pricey, and there are few things as good as copying All That Glitters. Another weird thing you could do is combine Spy Kit with Cornered Market, nobody can play creatures, if you have Zur out then you should be set.
If Propaganda or Ghostly Prison are too pricey, War Tax can be an interesting alternative, it's especially useful in a Rule of Law deck where you can't play multiple Sorcery speed spells, this lets you use spare mana to hassle whomever you want, it's non-targeted and scales with the game.
I always wonder if non-cEDH Zur decks should consider running Honden of Seeing Winds and Sanctum of Calm Waters to draw cards, Zur can find you a few other Shrines if you ever draw into a Draw engine, none better than Sanctum of Stone Fangs. I guess you'd have to decide how much work 2-3 cards per turn is worth, at least once it's set up it doesn't use more resources.
3 years ago
Just so you know, Rona has a color identity of Black and Blue, but you have a white card in the deck (Cornered Market), making it not legal in Commander.
6 years ago
Welcome to mtg, dude! my first concern is the mana base, if you down have any pain lands (Llanowar Wastes, Caves of Koilos, Brushland), Sandsteppe Citadel should your only land that comes in tapped. good land count though, usually mtg decks have a 33% of lands, but I would consider more swamps and less plains, with forests staying high (especially with the Verdant Automaton's activated ability). I would take out Renegade Map, it does mana fix, but it doesn't ramp (consider Wayfarer's Bauble, Expedition Map for a good nonbasic land, or Sakura-Tribe Elder). And for combos: consider Barren Glory with Renounce, Spy Kit with Cornered Market/ Rememberance/ Pack Hunt. Also consider Tower Defense, Ranger's Guile, Heroic Intervention, Blossoming Defense, maybe Bonds of Mortality if you put in more removal, Young Wolf, Ghave, Guru of Spores. And if you like abzan colors, check out Fungal Growth. Plus I prefer the commander format over standard, there's lass turn 0 win assholes with Leyline of Anticipation, Lotus Petal, Mana Crypt, Show and Tell, Omniscience, Enter the Infinite. Hope this helps! If you or anyone else needs more help or have any questions, I'm always here.
7 years ago
Finally someone else saw how Cornered Market and Spy Kit give a soft lock on casting creatures! You've got a great, fun deck that isn't ruinous. Maybe toss in Isochron Scepter to help with your instants?
7 years ago
Spy Kit can be abused in EDH. With Cornered Market.