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Enchantment — Aura
At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted creature's controller, that player sacrifices that creature unless he or she pays (2).
When Slow Motion is put into a graveyard from play, return Slow Motion to its owner's hand.
Slow Motion Discussion
3 weeks ago
Have you considered Slow Motion ? It can be pretty nasty, being able to be recycled like Rancor. I also like Flood a ton, that card has won my generally abominably bad blue decks some games. Useless vs flying sucks, but a one of maybe? I also wonder about some of those old, weird upkeep cost cards blue got back in the day that targeted enchantments I think? Power Taint might let you interact with enchantment type decks, maybe a sideboard card?
Random thing, but back when I was a younger man, I found a cheap Mana Web singleton in a binder nobody was looking through for years I bet. I was sure it and Meekstone could be good cards, but I'd have to find more... low and behold, neither is cheap! Good finds, and your deck looks like an interesting build.
4 months ago
I'm assuming you:
- don't want to combo out
- want to keep a small budget
- your primary wincon is Approach of the Second Sun
- your secondary wincon is Simic Ascendancy
- nothing from the last two sets
Route 1) Stength Draw with Worse Creature Tempo
Cut cards that are good tempo plays but otherwise don't help you win by drawing cards. The idea is that you draw into Approach of the Second Sun , cast it, and then trigger your draw abilities to be able to cast it again very quickly. I assume this deck isn't trying to be super competitive. I added a little recursion for toolbox, while still being group hug.
- Cloud of Faeries
- Icatian Moneychanger
- Horizon Chimera
- Safehold Elite
- Vernadi Shieldmate
- Serra's Blessing
- Slow Motion
- Sunken Field
- Ajani, the Greathearted
- Mind Games
- Dakra Mystic
- Nullmage Advocate
- Pulsemage Advocate
- Spurnmage Advocate
- Veteran Explorer
- Windreader Sphinx
- Lore Broker
- Temple Bell
- Woodvine Elemental
Side Note: I really don't like Sunscorch Regent but I get why he's in the deck as part of a wincon. I just feel Toothy, Imaginary Friend and Pir, Imaginative Rascal are very similar and provide much more to the deck in an obvious way, but they cost $8 as a pair so I didn't want to formally recommend them.
6 months ago
Finest Hour is probably better than Brave the Sands, so if we're trying to fit in Leyline of Anticipation and Privileged Position , it would be better to cut that instead. And it would probably be correct to cut New Horizons instead of Weirding Wood. A card is better than a +1/+1 counter.
You're going to want to add Alchemist's Refuge to the manabase to help you cast enchantments on your opponent's turns when you don't have Leyline of Anticipation. It might even be worth trying to play Vedalken Orrery to get these effects more often. There are a few flash enchantments you can play as well: Seal Away , Temporal Isolation , Slow Motion , Lawmage's Binding , Cast Out , Alexi's Cloak , Cho-Manno's Blessing , Eel Umbra , Jolrael's Favor , and Serpent Skin seem playable.
Another thing you might consider are replayable enchantments. The few I'm thinking of are Mana Bloom , Gossamer Chains , Flickering Ward , Broken Fall and Molting Skin . The latter three will also help you keep Tuvasa alive!
Speaking of keeping your commander alive, you might find it difficult with only Shield of the Oversoul, Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves, and Greater Auramancy. Furthermore, the latter two give shroud, which will make it hard to enchant Tuvasa afterwards! I'd consider trying to find more hexproof and indestructible effects even if they come from non-enchantment sources, such as Darksteel Plate . As for auras, there's Alpha Authority and Canopy Cover .
Finally, as just a neat card, you might consider playing Cloud Cover .
As for things to take out, the first thing I would do is take out Luminarch Ascension. The card is so powerful that people will just kill it or, more likely, YOU. It's a political disaster. I'd pull Abundant Growth because it's just not a very high-yield card. If you're looking for ramp and color-fixing, Carpet of Flowers is better because of how common blue is in Commander. Authority of the Consuls is probably not going to be very useful unless you know opponents are going to making large numbers of 1/1s for a combo. Finally, as much as I like it as a card, On Serra's Wings is not particularly excellent here. Unfortunately, that's just four cuts, and I gave a lot more suggestions. You'll just have to consider what effects you might want enough to include.
1 year ago
Swiggitywiggity Awesome! I am so psyched you took this list for a spin...sounds like you had fun with it...It can def throw people off for sure...they didn't see this coming! I don't have any Slow Motion but I did make some changes per your suggestions and experience with this list. Did you go up against any burn decks and if so, how did you do? (did you use any sideboard?). Also, was Spell Pierce of any help? I am considering swapping it out for either Force Spike or Disrupt. Thanks again for the support and suggestions!
1 year ago
32 Lands has actually ran pretty well for me, if I run into problems Ill look into adding a few more low cost mana rocks as you suggested.
Consecrated Sphinx instead of Drogskol Reaver seems like a really good swap however Sphinx rarely last a full turn in my play group, Drogskol draws a bit less aggro and so lets me draw a bit more, I might swap to play test though
I originally had Mana Vault in but thats currently in another deck, I do like Thought Vessel though so I might throw that in, however I cant take out Darksteel Ingot, as my play group runs a lot of boardwipes and removal so having an indestructible rock is really good.
Aven Mindcensor sounds way better actually, ill make that swap.
I had actually considered swapping Witchbane Orb for Winter Orb, but I dont have many way to untap my land either then, Ive had my opponents find ways that I cant really use (such as using sword of feast and famine and so on) Witchbane Orb is also there for all the target spells my play group runs still iffy on it but i might give it ago.
Thank you so much for all the suggestions though, ill give them a try and see how it goes!
1 year ago
Slow Motion was a thought i had originally when i was making this deck, the thing was it did not really stop them form using it. Yes they have to pay 2 to keep it but late game whenever people have 5+ lands, this will not be a threat. Plus, it doesn't affect the creature itself. Paralyze and Singing Bell Strike are much better for these since they make you pay a lot more mana to use it completely shutting down their turn or keep it tapped to be unable to use. But you can customize this however you wish. Thanks for the input
2 years ago
Themes Blue/White Good Stuff UWgud Stax Your things cost less, theirs cost more. ETB Mill Pillowfort
Cards to cut or just don't do enough Slow Motion, Stormscape Familiar, Select for Inspection (too Specific), Etherium Sculptor (Not justifiable), Mindshrieker, Burnished Hart (Look, we all love this stupid Elk, but he sits at a slot where you need to have around that much mana up for counter spells. You really only want to be spending that type of mana to reduce your costs or increase opponents costs or stop them from attacking you. Else, counterspells. Two mana ramp is what you are looking for, ideally, not six spread over two turns), Jace's Archivist(I like this card a lot, and I think it's great with things like Thousand-Year Elixir, but realistically you want to be sculpting the perfect control hand all game rather than tossing it away.), Rhystic Study(Great card, but not $8 great. Mostly priced based on popularity. Budget choice for you, you don't need it). Temple Bell (Fun card, but too beneficial for your opponents. Don't spend mana to speed other's race, that's the opposite goal of the deck.), Cataclysm (I don't see why you have this other than as a combo with As Foretold.), Entrapment Maneuver, Hindering Touch, Leave in the Dust, Sleep(Only beneficial against creature decks), Psychic Spiral(You have to devote yourself to wheel for this card to work well, and wheel arguably doesn't help your deck.), Sunder(This combos only with As Foretold), Isperia, Supreme Judge (Costs six, his only creature decks, they don't have to attack you, there is better card draw.), Sphinx of Magosi, Silent Sentinel (Requires attack and arguably not enough enchantments).
You have a pretty decent Stax and 'Don't touch me there' package going on here, but not a whole lot of direction other than that. Some mill, some land destruction, but no real win-cons. If you want to have a serious mill win con, you can take out a little of your protection package and focus it on ETB effects and pair with a card like Altar of the Brood. Is that enough justification? I don't know, but ETB effects can be very strong and already seem like a small sub-theme. You would have to make more serious cuts for it. You definitely need to upgrade your mill-win con to be more flexible if you intend on winning that way. Sitting down at the average CMDR table of at least sum(4) means that you have hundreds of cards to whittle away. Some suggestions:Aforementioned Altar of the Brood, only for considerationSands of Delirium, Memory Erosion, Jace's Erasure, Sphinx's Tutelage, Increasing Confusion, Hinder/Spell Crumple + Tunnel Vision is a particular jank combo favorite of mine. Really you want stuff that hits early and doesn't require any further effort so you can pillowfort yourself, or are huge sinks for the late game push.
If you are looking to remove some pillowfort and upgrade your stax package, check out Brago, King Eternal, Paradox Engine, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Torpor Orb, Smokestack, Trinisphere, Thorn of Amethyst, Meekstone, Clock of Omens (This is especially useful), Dovin Baan, Inspiring Statuary.
Also, you should take out all land destruction since you don't have a real way to take advantage of it. Even with a couple of your reductions, the green player/ Mizzix player will get on board faster and annihilate you out of spite.
Also, the deck only has mill as its win-con thus far, which is tenuous at best even in the most refined EDH decks. I suggest you put some of the not-so-flashy-feels-bad-win-cons in this deck such as Approach of the Second Sun, Azor's Elocutors, Laboratory Maniac, etc.
Also, after above edits, you only have three board clears by my count. Even if I'm off, you want around 7-10 for a deck of this style that covers a multitude of fronts. Most board-wipes are just creature based, but you should include ones like Akroma's Vengeance, Consulate Crackdown, Planar Cleansing, Nevinyrral's Disk. Things that can be instant speed are also great like Rout and Evacuation.
Your land base needs a pretty big update as well. You should really only be running 10 or less of each basic for a dual colored deck, though not as important for three and up decks. But, you have quite a few double-symbol costs that your cost reduction can't affect.Fixing lands Coastal Tower, Meandering River, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Azorius Guildgate, Sejiri Refuge, Tranquil Cove, Prairie Stream, Exotic Orchard.
Hope this helps! :)
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