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When Liliana's Contract enters the battlefield, you draw four cards and you lose 4 life.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control four or more Demons with different names, you win the game.
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Liliana's Contract Discussion
6 days ago
SynergyBuild, that's perfect. Thank you! I don't know how I missed that land in my searches.
The white counter spells weren't for a quasi removal as much as they were for protecting my setup, especially when it's all getting activated. Gift of Immortality is also there both to protect Ob Nixilis, Unshackled or bring Fertilid back after I use him up. Do you think these are wasted card slots?
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen would be a fantastic add! Not just on flavour, but he'd work with the The Gitrog Monster/Crucible of Worlds package. I could use another "play an extra land" card, perhaps. Now that you mentioned more demons, I have a Rune-Scarred Demon which is one of my favourite combos with Pattern of Rebirth. If I have Ob Nixilis already and Fertilid already in play, he could be a great third option to bring in so I can find another key card.
I do like the idea of a another win-con. I appreciate diverse gameplay. While the instant win cards aren't as enjoyed in our format, Liliana's Contract could work and I'm going to start giving other options some serious thought.
6 days ago
This is a nice idea! I hope you manage to make it work.
You need a Strionic Resonator to double the activations of Ob-Nixilis or Maralen.
Avatar of Growth would be great if you can lay your hands on one.
I am not too fond of the white counterspell sub-theme you have included; with this color scheme you have ample options for removal. Personally I like Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Utter End, and Pernicious Deed. With your search to kill theme, Assassin's Trophy and Path to Exile should also be included.
Since your theme is running a bit thin, I see two options to make this deck more efficient : filling it to the brim with tutors, or including an alternate wincon. I definitely favour the second option; and I though you would like it to include your hidden general for flavor. Here is my suggestion for that:
Hope this helps!
2 weeks ago
Hmm, it's easy to suggest cards, but trying to suggest cuts is a challenge haha. I personally think that you should cut Aku Djinn, Master of the Feast, and Liliana's Contract. The Djinn and Master are the "bad type" of group hug cards IMO. All they are are big dumb beaters (which aren't really that big for EDH) that only provide benefits to your opponents. For me, if I am playing group hug, I want to be getting equal value to what I am granting my opponents, otherwise they will just outpace me.
As far as Liliana's Contract goes, I don't think that you are running enough demons for it to be a viable win-con and all it will do is put a target on your pack (no matter how much you are helping you opponents).
With all that said, I think the best way to figure out cuts would be to just play the deck and see what works and what doesn't work.
3 weeks ago
Thank you! I will consider it all :) Going full Liliana's Contract would be awesome! But iam still that type who cant get rid of cards they like- haha. (Sheoldred, Whispering One, Grave Titan) and the other big black boys. Even tho their full potential could come out better in another deck.
I might end up splitting the deck to make this an contract deck and another some Zombie Reborn thing deck.
It was really helpfull :D ^^ Thanks again.
3 weeks ago
You have a point about not dying early. :) Though adding more 5 & 6 cmc demons isn't the way to go I don't think. Only problems I see are your curve is top heavy. More disruption/removal would help. Ring of Three Wishes and Whip of Erebos are a little too cute to be running in my opinion. Victim of Night, Fatal Push, Inquisition of Kozilek, Blackmail, or Funeral Charm are all viable early game plays.
If you really wanna go full on Liliana's Contract, I would narrow it down to 5-6 demons, maybe even adding something like Skirsdag High Priest to pump out Demon Tokens (They count towards the contract) to have an early board presence.
My creature base would be something like this:
3 Skirsdag High Priest
3 Wall of Souls or Gifted Aetherborn whichever suits your playstyle
4 Ammit Eternal
4 Desecration Demon
3 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
4 Crypt Ghast
1 Indulgent Tormentor
From there you should have plenty of room to fit all of your ramp, removal/disruption and contracts.
3 weeks ago
How will i survive "early" then? I know i will pump out big demons early like Desecration Demonbuuut it doesn´t seem like its enough.
Thanks for the helping :D
3 weeks ago
Although, I have two ideas...
How good is Abyssal Persecutor here? I heard that some can manipulate his reversed Platinum Angel ability... But how? I'm actually thinking of other Wincons here as well... Liliana's Contract, & Revel in Riches would be busted...
How do I protect my yard from stuff like Bojuka Bog & co., Grafdigger's Cage, or even Ashes of the Abhorrent? Even more so w/ an opposing Leyline of the Void? These are all tied as the Biggest Weakness in a deck like this. & griffstick, I still am wondering why you said "Smh". Any reason why?
That said, I'm trying to plan out my deck as I'm working on others... Wish me Luck! :D