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Stealer of Secrets
Creature — Human Rogue
Whenever Stealer of Secrets deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
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Stealer of Secrets Discussion
1 month ago
These are changes I would make, to help this deck:
This deck might win one or two games at FNM. A more competitive option is to buy a Planeswalker Deck and tweak it.
2 months ago
If you cast Open Into Wonder targeting your Stealer of Secrets and proceed to attack with it will you draw 2 cards assuming combat damage is dealt? Or does this fall into redundancy even though the wording of the 2 drawing abilities stacked on Stealer are worded differently?
7 months ago
Alrighty, this may just be personal bias talking, but I like to think that looters such as Stealer of Secrets, Scroll Thief, and Looter il-Kor are tremendously useful assets. They may not have abusable enter the battlefield triggers, but they do an excellent job of keeping your hand stocked and filtering out the useless crap. If we're talking about guys with useful ETB's, some of my personal favorites are Deputy of Acquittals and Whitemane Lion because of the built in flash, also the latter of the two can help you reuse a guy, so win-win. Here is a link to the Star City Games PDH vs episode. I think Justin Parnell's deck can give you a few more options to consider. Overall, I really like the deck and I'm curious as to how you will continue to upgrade the deck. Definite +1 from me.
1 year ago
Got to the game shop and was able to get Blood Reckoning, Blight Sickle, Liliana Vess, Lockjaw Snapper, Necroskitter, Needle Specter, Sickle Ripper, and Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. I kept the Stealer of Secrets and Lazav, Dimir Mastermind in until I can get True-Name Nemesis and Grafted Exoskeleton. I also want to try Faerie Harbinger, Oona's Gatewarden, Reaper of Sheoldred, and Viral Drake.
1 year ago
1 year ago
You have a lot of weenies. This works well with unblockable but you may want to consider wipes and cards like Night of Souls' Betrayal or Elesh Norn being played early via some graveyard manipulation.
Also consider that they have blockers for your blockable creatures and removal for your unblockable ones. What is your gameplan then? If your blockable creatures aren't threatening to your opponent's creatures as well as the opponent, you may get stalled.
Consider some stronger creature options. Your low CMC is good for a faster clock, but can hinder you when the faster clock results in a slower gameplan.
- Wind Dancer Simply too slow.
- Vampire Interloper Simply awful.
- Stealer of Secrets, Scroll Thief very overcosted, not a bad effect
- Surveilling Sprite, Palace Familiar again not a bad effect on a weak body
- Owl Familiar (keep it if you want)
- Memnite I like the speed, but...
- Dimir Cutpurse
- Bearer of Silence and Shriekmaw are both removal that is overpriced. You will rarely use their other abilities, I think.
- Basilica Screecher
- Thalakos Seer
- Dauthi Horror
- Dauthi Ghoul
- Neurok Invisimancer
- Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar swap for Notion Thief (Tomorrow is better in it's own deck)
- Vault Skirge meh
- Updraft / Wind Sail / Cloak of Feathers Effects like this probably won't be very beneficial. I'd rather run removal, or a permanent, reusable source of flying (think - Equipment)
Debate keeping wrexial.
- Cranial Plating You are running a bunch of artifacts. Slap this on an unblockable creature and watch your opponents scramble for removal.
- Vapor Snag type effects (light bounce, can be used defensively)
- Doom Blade There's probably more ninja-like removal out there.
- Go for the Throat
- Distortion Strike
Ninjas sometimes have a subtheme of equipment. Just figured I'd recommend a few if you go this route.
- Mask of Riddles - Whispersilk pt.2
- Skeleton Key - Whispersilk pt.3
- Quietus Spike - I have a thing for this card (Scytheclaw too)
- Inquisitor's Flail
- Grafted Exoskeleton
- Shuriken maximum flavor
- Ronin Warclub Works incredibly well with ninjas
- Sai of the Shinobi likewise
- Worldslayer 'troll' option
- Swords of X and Y ($$$$$)
You'll want to avoid wipes since you rely on creatures a lot yourself, beyond things like Cyclonic Rift. If you find wipes to be troublesome, try something like Living Death or a mass return-to-hand-from-grave spell.
Lands to consider:
Here is an odd idea which might be appealing. Steal their creatures, attack, and ninjutsu your own in, bouncing their creature and putting yours into play.
If you want to go this way, I can suggest some big ones:
1 year ago
You listed the deck as Commander rather than Duel Commander, so you should be playing Sol Ring.
Stealer of Secrets is not a good card in this format. It's not even a mediocre card for the format. It's just plain bad.
Your ramp is not nearly good enough to consistently hit the top end of your curve consistently. You've got 4 cards that cost 10+ mana, and 5 mana rocks (including Phyrexian Metamorph to copy someone else's mana rock). Furthermore, three of your mana rocks provide only one mana, and Sphere of the Suns only produces that mana 3 times before it's useless. Thran Dynamo, Worn Powerstone, Sky Diamond, Mind Stone, and Everflowing Chalice are all better than Sphere by a significant margin.
Your deck doesn't do a whole lot to affect the board. Your clone effects can help a lot in this area, but you only have 4 ways to get rid of creatures once they're on the battlefield. Of those, 2 of them only stop attacking creatures, one is a sorcery that is incredibly risky due to the prevalence of strong ETB effects in the format, and the last one is extremely slow, taking 3 turns and 18 mana just to get rid of a 5/5. Your only defense against enchantments and artifacts is counterspells, and since you don't exile anything, graveyard recursion is still an option. Your lack of spot removal is strange, since blue is the third best color in the format for efficient creature removal (Rapid Hybridization, Pongify, Reality Shift, Curse of the Swine, Cyclonic Rift, Capsize, Mystic Confluence, and Cryptic Command are all solid, though some of them are better used in modes other than getting rid of a single creature).
Your proliferate subtheme seems a bit odd. You have 5 cards that proliferate, but only 5 cards that use counters (including Tumble Magnet, Sphere of the Suns, and Blightsteel Colossus, which I would normally ignore because they're either on the cutting block or don't need proliferation to work). Yes, you can manipulate counters on other players' permanents, but most counters are beneficial, so that application doesn't help you in most situations (and therefore shouldn't be a consideration during deck construction). 5 instances of an effect in a 100-card deck is not enough to see at least one card with that effect each game in most decks (though having access to blue card draw gives you some leeway). I normally use 10 instances as the lowest number for which you can expect to consistently see at least one card with that effect per game (mathematically, the number is closer to 12, but that's before card draw and card filtering effects are taken into account). I'd recommend either cutting the proliferate cards, or increasing the number of cards that use counters. If you want to add more proliferation, Fuel for the Cause is fine.
Your deck description doesn't match the deck itself. You have 2 cards that force other players to draw cards (ignoring Jace's ultimate, which doesn't count because anyone who ignores you for long enough to let you use a planeswalker's limit break deserves to be punished for their idiocy). If milling your opponents out by forcing them to draw cards isn't your gameplan, then don't play Howling Mine effects. They don't generate card advantage since your opponent(s) will draw just as many cards as you, and they didn't spend a card to do so. If you want to mill your opponent out, then play way more Howling Mine effects instead (and consider playing Nekusar, the Mindrazer as your commander instead, to increase your consistency). If, when you described your deck as "turbo-draw", you meant, "this deck draws tons of cards", then you just described 90% of mono-blue decks in the format (and about 80% of blue decks in the format). People should be able to figure out that you plan to draw tons of cards just from looking at your color identity.