Rise from the Tides

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Rise from the Tides

Sorcery

Create a tapped 2/2 black Zombie creature token for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.

Balaam__ on Balaam__

4 months ago

sleepygordie I took a closer look at your zombie token deck. In my experience, the more things a deck is trying to do the less effective it becomes, even if those things are similar or related. I went ahead and stripped out a number of cards and rebuilt it with budget in mind, first and foremost. This shouldn’t be any more expensive than what you already posted, and while it’s quite a bit different I urge you to consider using it as a template.

4 Wight 6 Swamp 4 Shamble Back 2 Rise from the Tides 4 Mana Leak 6 Island 3 Inquisition of Kozilek 4 Gravecrawler 4 Duress 4 Drowned Catacomb 3 Diregraf Colossus 4 Compelling Deterrence 4 Clearwater Pathway // Murkwater Pathway 4 Cemetery Reaper 4 Bone Shards

A brief description of what it intends to do:

•Lands

Since you’re budget conscious, the best lands (fetches and duals) are out. But there are still better options than what you had, and inexpensive too. Clearwater Pathway  Flip is fantastic because it’s whatever you need at the time you play it, and you already had Drowned Catacomb so that’s still here. Regular basics are the only other lands you want.

•Creatures

Gravecrawler, Wight and Diregraf Colossus were already there so you know why you chose them. I added Cemetery Reaper as a great 3 drop lord that’s non-legendary (you can have multiples in play and they stack), and his ability can make more tokens and can target either player’s graveyard.

•Instants

Compelling Deterrence is great, use 4 copies. Mana Leak is efficient counter magic, especially early game when you’ll need it the most. is easier to cast than Counterspell’s .

•Sorceries

Duress and Inquisition of Kozilek strip your opponent’s hand. Bone Shards is super useful to eliminate a creature threat, and your tokens are easy sacrifices to pay that part of its cost. Shamble Back is cheap and effective token generation and helps recover lost life. Rise from the Tides is too mana intensive to use as anything other than a strong finisher. With all the instants and sorceries here that will end up in your graveyard, when you cast Rise from the Tides you should get a ton of tokens.


With the above list you’ll have early board presence (lots of 1 and 2 drops), plenty of discard and removal to slow down your opponent, and some strong finishers. Bear in mind this is just a quick list I threw together and is by no means optimized. Use it as a template, a building block to customize and make your own.

tiffanyann on Unique Commanders

11 months ago

Oh God here we go.

Aethertide Whale

Brineborn Cutthroat

Brine Hag  WTF IS THIS

Arcane Adaptation

Daring Saboteur

Deadeye Plunderers

Denizen of the Deep

Diabolic Edict

Dire Fleet Ravager YES.

Dusk Legion Dreadnought

Elaborate Firecannon MUST INCLUDE

Fatal Push

Fathom Fleet ANYTHING

Fell Flagship

Fleet Swallower

Forerunner of the Coalition COP DFR

Ghost of Ramirez DePietro

Ghost Ship

Grasping Scoundrel

Gust of Wind

Gyruda, Doom of Depths SHOULD WE DO ALL EVEN HAHA NO

High Tide

Hostage Taker

Icebreaker Kraken

Inga Rune-Eyes

Interdict

Jace, Cunning Castaway

Killer Whale

Kraken of the Straits

Lingering Mirage

Lookout's Dispersal

Merchant Raiders

Merchant Scroll

Merchant Ship

Merfolk Assassin

Merfolk of the Pearl Trident

Nadir Kraken

Nameless One

Nezahal, Primal Tide

Phantasmal Dreadmaw

Phantasmal Terrain

Phantom Warrior

Piracy

Pirate Ship

Queen's Bay Soldier

Raiders' Karve

Raiders' Wake

Reef Pirates

Rescue from the Underworld

Return Upon the Tide

Rise from the Tides

Rishadan Dockhand

River Serpent

Run Aground

Run Ashore

Ruthless Knave

Saprazzan Cove

Saprazzan Outrigger

Scourge of Fleets

Sea God's Revenge

Sea Serpent

Serpent of the Endless Sea

Shadowed Caravel

Shipbreaker Kraken

Siren Stormtamer

Skulduggery

Skymarch Bloodletter

Sleek Schooner

Slipstream Eel

Sorcerous Spyglass

Spectral Sailor

Spined Megalodon

Steam Frigate

Stormsurge Kraken

Stormtide Leviathan

Thassa's Ire

Thing from the Deep

Thing in the Ice  Flip

Tidal Wave

Unknown Shores

Vampire Revenant

Vanquish the Weak

Vexing Scuttler

Waker of Waves

Walk the Plank

War-Wing Siren

Watery Grave

Wavecrash Triton

Wu Longbowman

Pursued Whale

TheKamikazeBagel on You're a-boat to die (boat tribal)

1 year ago

Sarcastically says: "There's no boats in some of those lands, how dare this boat deck not have boats in its lands".

Jokes aside, I have done a non extensive search for boat inclusive lands.

PO2 Island #154/#156

ISD Island #254

AVR Island #234

SOI Island #288

XLN Island #265

XLN Island #264

Jumpstart Island #52

ISD Swamp #257

AVR Swamp #237

M19 Swamp #271

KHM Snow-Covered Island #278

SOI Highland Lake #277

Jwar Isle Refuge

Port of Karfell

River of Tears

Spirebluff Canal

Submerged Boneyard

THB Unknown Shores #249

XLN Unknown Shores #259

To note, while Innistrad #260 / Avacyn Restored #240 Mountains don't have boats, they do have lakes and lighthouses, and those fill out nicely with the other Adam Paquette ISD/AVR land cycle.

Non Lands:

Drag Under

Elder Deep-Fiend

Epiphany at the Drownyard

Grizzled Angler  Flip

Rise from the Tides

Seagraf Skaab

Vexing Scuttler

Unenlightened on Cheapskate Talrand ver. 1.5 ($100)

1 year ago

So I've been working on integrating most of the cards from your version of this deck with my version, and there are a few I was using or considering that you might not have thought of.

First, some of my favorite spells for Commander are what I call 'erasure' spot removal auras. These are mostly found in W/B/G, with most in Blue. The blue ones that I use are: Frogify , Kasmina's Transmutation , Ichthyomorphosis , Deep Freeze and Imprisoned in the Moon . As you can see, these don't just kick a commander off the field, they completely neuter it. With the exception of Imprisoned, they're also dirt cheap. The only catch is they don't cantrip. Notably, Deep Freeze and Imprisoned in the Moon both remove a commander's ability to attack, where the other three do not - a Frogified commander is still a commander and can still kill you if it does enough damage. Fun fact: the whole 'imprison the evil goddess in the moon' plotline is the premise for the first two episodes of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. MTG totally ripped off MLP.

Squelch , Stifle and Trickbind are all counter-ability instead of counter-spell. Stifle and Trickbind might be out of budget range for this deck, though Trickbind is worth noting because it has Split Second.

Clear the Mind is a nice failsafe in case our win conditions wind up in our GY and it cantrips!

Mystical Dispute only costs as long as it targets a blue spell, i.e. a hostile counterspell or Cyclonic Rift. Daze is a nice ambush counterspell because you can cast it with no open mana. Was wondering why you didn't include that one.

Unsubstantiate can effectively counter un-counterable spells by bouncing them to the caster's hand. Narset's Reversal is a fancier version of this which lets us theoretically defend our combo spells. If an opponent tries to counter our Mass Polymorph or Synthetic Destiny, we can copy it, forcing them to counterspell it an additional time (the copy) and then another time on the next turn (when we recast it from hand) if they want to stop it. Narset's Reversal I see might be out of budget though.

I was wondering why you weren't running Temple of the False God .

I thought Rise from the Tides would be an interesting card in this deck, though it might be the kind of thing you use only when desperate...

Finally, Mystic Speculation seems like it might be useful, and same for Soothsaying . The latter lets you dig through your library as long as you have mana, and shuffle it at will, though that second part is expensive, mana wise.

I look forward to seeing your thoughts on these. I need to figure out which cards to cut, so don't be shy about ripping into them if they seem bad.

Caerwyn on Nekusar - Hurtin' Wheel Bad

1 year ago

The best way to keep from dying so quickly is to kill everyone else faster. To that end, consider:

Second way to keep from losing: Better control.

  • You are in Blue and should be running more counterspells.
  • You should have more spot removal that can destroy problematic cards.
  • Helm of the Ghastlord combos with Nekusar and a wheel to lock opponents out of the game (they can only play instants before the Ghastlord triggers resolve and cause them to discard every card they ever draw).
  • Sigil of Sleep on Nekusar turns each wheel into a mini-Cyclonic Rift.

Add more ramp artifacts so you can get online quicker and fire off multiple wheels per turn.

Add Library of Leng - it allows you to use wheels to engineer a better hand by sending to graveyard what you do not need and keeping what you do.

Finally, you should reduce your average CMC substantially. A lot of your high-costed cards do not have particularly useful synergies to your deck--they might be decent cards in a vacuum, but they really are not great with your particular strategy. Plague Wind , Tidespout Tyrant , all of your 5-mana spells, all of your seven-mana spells, Rise from the Tides , and Roil Elemental are all things you can cut to make room for more synergistic options.

Phion on When Hel freezes over (Crimson Vow update)

1 year ago

Chats the only 2 cuts I think you should perhaps reconsider are Discovery / Dispersal (early game this card can dig in your deck a bit to help find land while also supplying your grave with cards for Empty the Pits + Rise from the Tides . In addition the second half is decent late game to bounce peoples higher costed cards) and Forbidden Alchemy (fills up your grave again while also helping you find the card you need, can cast again with flashback instant speed).

In terms of cuts I think Brain in a Jar and Diregraf Colossus are on the chopping block simply because unless they are played early game the deck does not feel the benefit when they are drawn.

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