Create a token that's a copy of target creature except it has haste and "At the beginning of the end step, exile this permanent."
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Heat Shimmer Discussion
3 weeks ago
king-saproling ooooo I forgot about Chandra's Incinerator, that could be some very useful and repeatable removal. Will mostly come down for at most two mana. This one is definitely going in the maybe board.
Satyr Firedancer is a definite no. Not enough instants and sorceries that deal damage in the deck, although there are some, just not enough to justify a spot for this.
So this is an entire collection of the same type of card. Basically I like these effects, but I don't want too many. The max I would be willing to run is two. It helps flesh out the deck, but it's not the main strategy. I like Light of Promise best out of your suggestions. Could potentially replace Nykthos Paragon if I find I only need to be buffing one creature instead of four or five. Maybeboard it goes for testing. Sunbond is just worse Light of Promise and I don't want too many of these effects. I would rather just have Nykthos Paragon than Cradle of Vitality, it's more efficient. If I were to go with two, which two would you suggest, and what would you suggest be taken in its place?
Adarkar Valkyrie is just too expensive for what it does; I used to run it. Maybe over the next few years, if Boros gets access to a plethora of ramp instead of what we have, it might find a way, but now it's just too slow. Angelic Renewal though is something I've been meaning to add to the maybeboard. Two-mana, choose whenever you'd like to reanimate a creature, is pretty good. Graceful Reprieve is not as flexible as Angelic Renewal, and what I already have in the deck is just better. I actually don't think I need more reanimation. Surprisingly, that's not the issue. While I love the political power of Cauldron of Souls, I used to run it, and I find it incredibly slow and clunky. Could be good in more political groups and slower groups than mine though.
Minion Reflector would be a good choice if my reanimation package wasn't so good, but Boros has gotten some buffs in the past year or so, which makes this a sub-optimal choice.
Twinflame.... huh. I always thought this was a threaten effect for some reason. I don't think it could earn a spot, but I see enough there to where I'm more than happy to test it and be proven wrong. Maybeboard it goes. Not as impressed by Heat Shimmer though.
Sorry if it seems like I'm just shooting all your ideas down. Youve made some good ones and given me a lot to think about. This list is just REALLY tight.
3 weeks ago
Thoughts on these? Chandra's Incinerator, Satyr Firedancer, Light of Promise, Sunbond, Cradle of Vitality, Adarkar Valkyrie, Angelic Renewal, Graceful Reprieve, Cauldron of Souls, Homura, Human Ascendant Flip, Minion Reflector, Twinflame, Heat Shimmer
1 month ago
Dualcaster Mage is a personal pet card of mine. It's the best spell in each deck at the table. ;) It is a wincon with Twinflame and Heat Shimmer. With any of the flicker effects, it is infinite magecraft but I wouldn't say it's a wincon.
2 months ago
the Dualcaster lines are: Dualcaster Mage + Comet Storm + Ghostly Flicker . Comet Storm can be replaced by Commune with Lava hitting the Comet Storm or Thassa's Oracle for the win. Dualcaster Mage + Twinflame or Heat Shimmer. Not sold on the shimmer yet. Might also include Sublime Epiphany for more redundancy.
2 months ago
Yeah those are all very understandable points.
I also get the sense that Prosper is kind of aimless and general value generating (for now). I'm hoping this is one of those commanders that will continue to evolve with the addition of upcoming sets. There are plenty of mechanics that generally synergize with what Prosper wants to do and hopefully the upcoming Standard sets will have some additional support. Red has received plenty of impulse draw support in recent sets and seems to generally be trending more in that direction.
All that being said, I'm at the point where I want to get more games in IRL with my current list and test it out that way. I have been looking into more competitive builds to see what combo lines are already being considered as options for the deck if I ever want to change it up. One combo I'm considering is Dualcaster Mage + Heat Shimmer / Twinflame . It doesn't necessarily fit the theme Prosper is going for, but it's an option and one where I know I already have all the cards in my binders lol.
4 months ago
Hey boydb thanks for the suggestions!
About Heat Shimmer and Minion Reflector , at first i thought they would work, since the text was updated in Gatherer, but i think you're right, that "AND" is the problem and sadly the tokens will go away at the end of my opponents next turn.
Oh boy, i was searching for cards to build an Obeka copy instant/sorcery and that Aria of Flame fits like a glove, really nice.
By the way, that explanation about the triggers that you added to your Myriad Obeka descripton will probably help some people, well done :)
4 months ago
Hey, nice deck list! I like the copy mechanic. I added a few of these cards to my wishlist.
I'm still learning about which triggers can be disabled with Obeka and I found a couple cards on yours that aren't delayed triggers. Heat Shimmer and Minion Reflector specifically. Those are actually abilities that the card acquires, so those will trigger each time the condition is met. Take a look at Kindred Charge . The text for "Exile them..." does not go on the card itself while heat shimmer places the ability directly on the copy token.
The way I think we can tell is if it says "they gain haste and eot trigger" versus "they gain haste. EOT trigger". The period stops the token from gaining the trigger as an ability.