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1v1 Commander | Legal |
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Arena | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Historic | Legal |
Historic Brawl | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Pioneer | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Planechase | Legal |
Quest Magic | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vanguard | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Village Messenger
Creature — Human Werewolf
Haste
At the beginning of each upkeep, if no spells were cast last turn, transform Village Messenger.
UrzasUnderstudy on Tiny Wolves
1 year ago
Soooo I had written this huge awesome thoughtful comment that I had just gone and previewed when the site hiccuped and there went an hour's worth of words....
Anyhow, in brief and now in list form, here are some cheap, thematic cards you might want to consider: Breakneck Rider Flip, Domri, Anarch of Bolas, Duskwatch Recruiter Flip, Geier Reach Bandit Flip, Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip, Inscription of Abundance, Howlpack Resurgence, Kessig Wolf Run, Mage Slayer, Mayor of Avabruck Flip, Moonlight Hunt, Moonmist, Natural State, Path of Ancestry, Pit Fight, Neglected Heirloom Flip, Silverfur Partisan, Soul's Fire, Village Messenger Flip, and Vines of Vastwood
multimedia on Werewolf Raid - Tovolar Commander Werewolf Tribal
3 years ago
Hey, well done, nice version and foil Huntmaster. You're a better deck builder than you think, but you did forget Sol Ring ;)
There's some cards here that aren't as good as others. The only sorcery speed removal you should play are board wipes that can kill more than one thing. Single effect removal is always better as instant that way you can respond to something an opponent does. Rabid Bite is not good when Beast Within and Chaos Warp are options. Decimate is fine since it can target more than one thing among many players. Blasphemous Act is an example of a strong creature board wipe in muliplayer Commander where it can be consistently cast for only one mana. Vandalblast can destroy all your opponents artifacts.
Human Werewolves who are 5, 4, 3 CMC who only have one ability such as trample or reach and don't give you anything else when transformed or on the backside of the card are really subpar compared to all the other much better Werewolves here. Tavern Ruffian Flip, Tireless Hauler Flip, Harvesttide Infiltrator Flip, Bird Admirer Flip, Ulvenwald Mystics Flip, Burly Breaker Flip could all be cut. Some Human Werewolves who could replace these: Reckless Stormseeker Flip, Realmwalker, Breakneck Rider Flip, Village Messenger Flip.
There's 5 sources of ramp here which is low amount with only 33 lands. With 33 lands then you really need more ramp, 10 or more sources. 0-2 CMC ramp is best because ideally you want to cast ramp in the early turns of the game when you don't have very many lands. 0-2 CMC ramp can replace lands since getting two lands is not as difficult as getting three or more. Sol Ring and Arcane Signet are staple budget ramp sources in Commander. Thought Vessel is helpful for more no max hand size and/or Crop Rotation to get Reliquary Tower.
Some colors have problems with having enough ramp options, but when playing green that's not a problem and you can take advantage of land ramp spells that can get a dual land Stomping Ground or Cinder Glade: Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Farseek and Harrow is nice basic land ramp. These ramp sources could replace: Bounding Wolf, Howl of the Hunt, Unnatural Moonrise, Mage Slayer.
Some changes to consider:
- Sol Ring --> Bounding Wolf
- Arcane Signet --> Tavern Ruffian
- Reckless Stormseeker Flip --> Tireless Hauler
- Realmwalker --> Harvesttide Infiltrator
- Breakneck Rider Flip --> Bird Admirer
- Village Messenger Flip --> Burly Breaker
- Thought Vessel --> Howl of the Hunt
- Nature's Lore --> Mage Slayer
- Three Visits --> Ulvenwald Mystics
- Beast Within --> Rabid Bite
- Chaos Warp --> Return to Nature
- Farseek --> Unnatural Moonrise
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Werewolf Commander
3 years ago
Hey, good work in process on a budget.
There's a few cards here that are not as good as others. Werewolf Horrors who can't transform from Tovolar are quite subpar. Vildin-Pack Outcast Flip, Smoldering Werewolf Flip, Shrill Howler Flip, Conduit of Storms Flip, Ulvenwald Captive Flip, Kessig Prowler Flip
Three, four and five drop Human Werewolves who don't have any abilities or just have a single ability like reach or trample, but don't any other abilities on the backside of the card just aren't good enough. Tireless Hauler Flip, Convicted Killer Flip
Arlinn, Voice of the Pack for a six drop doesn't do much without other cards which is not what you want with a six drop. Tovolar's Huntmaster Flip in comparison is so much better than Arlinn at six mana.
Some budget cards to consider adding:
- Reckless Stormseeker Flip: Werewolf who gives haste and pump.
- Village Messenger Flip: another one drop Human Werewolf.
- Breakneck Rider Flip: Werewolf who transforms to give trample and pump.
- Nightpack Ambusher: Wolf who can be a repeatable source of Wolves and is an anthem for Werewolves and Wolves.
- Relentless Assault: extra attack spell to draw more cards with Tovolar.
- Wolfcaller's Howl: good card in multiplayer Commander since there's many players, it can be quick board wipe recovery.
- Dryad's Revival: recur any card and has flashback to cast it again, get Assault two more times.
- Arcane Signet: staple budget two drop mana rock for more ramp.
- Farseek: two drop land ramp that can get Stomping Ground or Cinder Glade.
Cinder Glade, Unclaimed Territory, Naya Panorama, Rogue's Passage, Tyrite Sanctum are some budget land upgrades to consider replacing some basic lands. Path of Ancestry could replace Timber Gorge.
Good luck with your deck.
multimedia on Werewolves on the hunt
3 years ago
Hey, good attempt for a budget version of Tovolar. nice Aggravated Assault. You've mistakenly added two Tovolar's Huntmaster Flip :)
The card that combos with Spellbinder is Savage Beating for extra attacks which is now a $30 card. Without having Beating then Spellbinder is not worth playing because there's only 5 instants here out of 94 other cards.
When you control five or more lands then Bear Umbra enchanted to a creature who can keep attacking can pair with Aggravated Assault for extra attacks. Attacking with five or more creatures makes Druids' Repository combo with Assault. Savage Ventmaw who can keep attacking combos with Assault and also makes infinite green/red mana. Umbra could replace Spellbinder, Repository could replace Mantle of the Wolf and Ventmaw could replace the other copy Huntmaster.
Consider more one, two, three drop Werewolves to replace the vanilla four and five drop Werewolves?
- Scorned Villager Flip
- Realmwalker: changeling, it's a Werewolf and a Wolf.
- Kruin Outlaw Flip
- Geier Reach Bandit Flip
- Daybreak Ranger Flip
- Breakneck Rider Flip
- Village Messenger Flip
- Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip
- Reckless Waif Flip
- Lambholt Elder Flip
- Wolfbitten Captive Flip
Some of these could replace:
- Tormented Pariah Flip
- Tavern Ruffian Flip
- Tireless Hauler Flip
- Burly Breaker Flip
- Villagers of Estwald Flip
- Harvesttide Infiltrator Flip
- Bird Admirer Flip
- Spellrune Painter Flip
- Fangblade Brigand Flip
A couple of reasons for these changes is to get three or more Werewolves onto the battlefield to transform Tovolar quicker and have more Werewolves that can give you value rather than just only being Werewolves.
Some lands to consider adding, replacing of some basic lands.
- Karplusan Forest
- Unclaimed Territory
- Cinder Glade
- Rockfall Vale
- Rootbound Crag
- Fire-Lit Thicket
- Game Trail
- Naya Panorama
- Jund Panorama
Good luck with your deck.
Defied-27 on Wait, where did the deer go? (Budget)
3 years ago
GoblinsBeatElves thank you for the feedback! I love your suggestions and already thought about Duskwatch Recruiter Flip, but was unsure. I included him and Game Trail as well, cut Hound Tamer Flip completely (thinking about it, the deck already had enough trample) and added two copies of Full Moon's Rise to give the deck at least some form of resilience against removal. This dropped the curve quite a bit, wich is always good in a fast format.
I thought about running Village Messenger Flip or Wolfbitten Captive Flip as my one drop... I'm still not certain which way to go, though I appreciate the mana sink of Wolfbitten Captive Flip quite a lot. I guess one could cut two Reckless Stormseekers and fill the slots with Village Messengers to drop the curve even further. I'll do some playtesting with that in the future!
Thanks for your great input!
GoblinsBeatElves on Wait, where did the deer go? (Budget)
3 years ago
Love the list so far, it's awesome to see someone else trying modern werewolves with IMH coming out. Based on my own list and my experiences in modern, I think I have a few suggestions that might be helpful:
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Village Messenger Flip is another werewolf one drop, if you find yourself needing a bit lower of a curve. Having haste and menace of the flip side is decent enough for an aggressive creature in modern. I don't know if you've found yourself wanting that or not.
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Manabases can definitely be hard to build on a budget, but I generally like to try the show lands such as Game Trail for budget lists, as they're usually pretty cheap. In this case, it seems like it'd work fairly well with your current manabase, with the Stomping Ground already caring about basics.
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Duskwatch Recruiter Flip seems like it'd be great in your list (Maybe shave a few Hound Tamers or Reckless Stormseekers for it to lower your curve a bit?) Gives you card advantage and a discount on creatures once it flips.
Just throwing ideas out here, this is definitely all up to what you feel the deck needs/how it plays. Good luck with the list!
RUST-O on Mono Red Madness Aggro
3 years ago
Changes soon to come: Replacing the 2x Lightning Strike and 2x Shock with 4x Lightning Bolt
Replacing 2x Rakdos Shred-Freak and 2x Valley Dasher with 4x Monastery Swiftspear
Replace 4x Village Messenger Flip with 4x Goblin Guide
And DONE!
Sideboard help would be greatly appreciated
Akromathia on Thriller
4 years ago
Domri Rade should be replaced with Arlinn Kord Flip. Ancient Grudge should be moved to side board, and be replaced with some removal Lightning Bolt is a perfect example. There are better options for Scorned Villager Flip, like Immerwolf, Wolfbitten Captive Flip, Village Messenger Flip or even Gatstaf Shepherd Flip, Lambholt Pacifist Flip or Kessig Forgemaster Flip.