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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Karoo enters the battlefield tapped.
When Karoo enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you return an untapped Plains you control to its owner's hand.
Tap: Add (1)(White) to your mana pool.
1 week ago
Hey, impressive version on a budget, you've put a lot of thought into your deck.
An excellent compact infinite combo for life is Staff of Domination + Accomplished Alchemist by gaining five or more life on a turn. What makes this combo compact is it's two cards and Staff can draw which is helpful when you make infinite mana to draw your wincon in this case Aetherflux Reservoir. Staff can be a mana sink for any other infinite mana combos you play. Heronblade Elite is an overlooked mana dork who can get out of hand quick when playing counters as well as other Humans. With 5 or more power it also infinite combos with Staff of Domination.
To improve gameplay use cards that are part of combos, but are good without combos? Cards that do other things such as ramp or gain life and can be used in more than one combo. Try to limit the combos to two cards to make it easier to assemble.
- Staff of Domination + Accomplished Alchemist = infinite mana, life, draw.
- Umbral Mantle + Accomplished Alchemist = infinite mana.
- Ivy Lane Denizen + Scurry Oak = infinite tokens.
- Spike Feeder + Cleric Class lvl 2. = infinite life.
Staff of Domination, Accomplished Alchemist, Ivy Lane Denizen, Spike Feeder, Cleric Class, Heronblade Elite, Scurry Oak are combo cards that are also good outside of combos. In contrast Sorcerer's Wand, Lurking Roper, Famished Paladin, Krosan Restorer, Presence of Gond are subpar cards that are only here because of combos or are only part of one combo. I'm not suggesting to cut all these cards, just to think about what other uses do they have here besides a combo and are they really needed because of that?
For example, Illusionist's Bracers is an expensive price card here that's only in one combo with one card, Krosan Restorer. Consider cutting Bracers and Restorer? Doing this change would also let you cut some of the lesser Bounce lands, Karoo and Jungle Basin because only playing them for Restorer combo. For a budget manabase Canopy Vista and Fortified Village could replace those lands. By adding Canopy Vista then you have a Selesnya dual land that Three Visits can get.
Many of the combos here require an equipment or an aura, Open the Armory can tutor for either one.
Some changes to consider:
- Staff of Domination --> Illusionist's Bracers
- Ivy Lane Denizen --> Krosan Restorer
- Heronblade Elite --> Golden Guardian
- Spike Feeder --> Sorcerer's Wand
- Open the Armory --> Ram Through
- Canopy Vista --> Karoo
- Fortified Village --> Jungle Basin
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
You mentioned running dry on mana, as well as not having defenses. With your concerns in mind, I have a couple more cards to suggest. For start, a few more reimbursable defensive spells that give you back land taps after you cast them. Additionally, more dual-mana lands. Dual mana lands, once out, can be untapped for 2 mana, making them greatly beneficial for the reimburse spells.
- Rewind (Counterspell)
- Snap (Creature Control)
- Geistlight Snare (Cheaper counterspell with Spirits, Enchantments)
- Coral Atoll
- Guildless Commons is colorless but having numerous 3 CMC cards means you don't need all colored mana.
- Path of Ancestry is very useful to Scry in your deck, as most of your creatures are Human/Soldier/Spirit.
- Cloud of Faeries is a reimburse flying creature that also has cycling. Many options for you there.
Excited to see how this deck works for you, and where you take it!
7 months ago
Sram, Senior Edificer, Puresteel Paladin, Mesa Enchantress, Mentor of the Meek, Welcoming Vampire, Land Tax, Endless Horizons, all the equipment tutors for Sword of Fire and Ice or Mask of Memory, if your only draw in white is cantrips, you're playing white wrong too.
White also has a lot of catch-up ramp like Knight of the White Orchid and Archaeomancer's Map and such, which white is uniquely equipped to profit from with stuff like Karoo, Path to Exile, Winds of Abandon and many more. On top of that, fetchlands + Sun Titan are a powerful engine to not fall behind in spendable mana.
And of course there's tons of Colorless stuff to help you out, but that would help other colors as well, so no real need to mention them.
You'll have to work a bit harder for white than for other colors, but the past 3 years have equipped white well enough to close out the gaps that started the 'white is bad'-meme. You'll lean more on synergy than power, which is why it falls behind competitively, yet the most powerful preemptive answers are in white, which is why many competitive decks will include it, but not be mono colored. Drannith Magistrate, Rest in Peace, Rule of Law, Aven Mindcensor and Stony Silence on the board together will prevent almost every deck from winning.
Tl;dr: white is the worst mono color, but not weak by any stretch. For the best results, combine it with other colors.
10 months ago
If you plan to make use of effects that want you to have a low land count, I recommend you look at Lotus Field maybe Karoo or Guildless Commons, if high budget Lotus Vale Scorched Ruins. You can consider Dust Bowl to get you and 1 opponent down a land, potentially leaving another guy still ahead for your effects. Field of Ruin is cheap and technically gets rid of a problem land while putting 2 players ahead 1. If you have the mana rocks to support it, Kjeldoran Outpost costs you a land and can make a token for only 1W, so if nobody else is doing anything you can still be swinging away. Weathered Wayfarer is a fun choice for another pay off for having less lands. Archaeomancer's Map is another one I can think of readily, there are some others I think.
1 year ago
If you wish to lean into payoffs like Knight of the White Orchid , you could throw in some bounce lands Selesnya Sanctuary , or Karoo lands in order to lower your land count. You can even consider something like Lotus Field eventually, which is hexproof and can't be Sinkholed or Wastelanded, and lets your pay offs work better.
Rebuff the Wicked has gone down a lot in price, it's a nice protection spell if you find your guys removed a lot.
Bow of Nylea is probably super-good in here, with lots of First Strike creatures that just love having Deathtouch. Ohran Frostfang would be a bomb, but a big clunky slow one. Either of these will solve the problem of your knights being too small.
1 year ago
My favorite mono white commander is the forgotten Heliod, God of the Sun . Skybind is amazing when you can make Enchantment Creature Tokens at a whim. Your team having Vigilance works amazing with Meekstone + Blind Obedience . With all the Cleric support in the last few sets, you could even take a peek in that direction.
Most white ramp that actually puts land into play, requires your opponents to have more lands than you. White has a few options to make that happen: Path to Exile , Winds of Abandon , Settle the Wreckage (which can also work wonders using it on yourself if you're the go-wide token player) in addition to bounce lands like Karoo and Guildless Commons . Of course, Extraplanar Lens works double duty there.
But the absolute best card in white, to drag down the other players to your level and make them watch their step, is Aven Mindcensor . Really, try it. It's the best response to a green player putting a Boundless Realms on the stack.
1 year ago
plakjekaas they are percentages of all decks. But the very fact that no one would play any White draw spells if they didn't have to is a pretty good signifier that the color is struggling.
Read the Bones is in 12% of all decks, btw.
People shouldn't have to work harder, because that means you're playing poorer. Scathe Zombies is worse than Walking Corpse for the very reason that you have to "work harder" (pay more mana) to cast it.
The thing with those cards you mentioned that disrupt the land equilibrium is, from the top:
Path to Exile is not going to a smart cast in the early game most of the time, unless you're in cEDH (in which case you're not going to be playing Cartographer's Hawk )--so it doesn't really put you behind in lands in the time when you actually need to be ramping. Same with Winds of Abandon , if not more so.
Guildless Commons is colorless. Nothing uniquely White about that one.
Oath of Lieges is designed specifically as to have no one player be at a land disadvantage during their turn. Unless you flash in a Stoic Farmer with a Vedalken Orrery then you're going to have a hard time making that combo work.
And the issue with all those cards is there's an innate issue with giving lands to your opponent. The reason you're trying to ramp in the first place is that having lands in play is a powerful thing, especially when you have more than your opponent.
1 year ago
Omniscience_is_life and are those percentages of mono white decks? Or all possible decks running white? Because nobody who's allowed to play Read the Bones will consider a Martyr's Cry for their card draw. It's a lot easier to play with statistics than it is to play magic.
I did explain how I thought white is the underdog, the colour that needs to work a little harder for the same results, because the color is better suited for 1v1, and low played % can mean several things. Not only that the card is bad, it could also mean people don't want to work harder. It could mean the cards are less available, or unknown.
But if you're advocating a white Harmonize and Cultivate , do you really want to play white? Or do you actually want to play Simic, without the image of evil and overpoweredness that has accompanied these colors recently? Because if you don't want to play equipment (which has gotten a massive power boost with Commander Legends and even broke onto cEDH as an archetype because of it), or weenies, or lifegain, why do you want to play white? And if you'd rather play Cultivate or Harmonize but in white! but don't lose access to Wrath of God , Sun Titan and Swords to Plowshares , why not play selesnya? The color system works on colors both exploiting and complementing each others' strengths and weaknesses, and not every color is meant to do everything. If you want to Cultivate , play green, it's ok to play green.
Colorshifting with a white twist just to give the color access to the same staples that the other colors have, is not a solution that would fix white. It would make white just feel like the other colors, pushing out the actual interesting white cards to make room for green "light" gameplay.