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Creature — Spirit Cleric
Whenever you cast a creature spell with converted mana cost 3 or less, investigate. (Put a colourless Clue artifact token onto the battlefield with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
Bygone Bishop Discussion
1 month ago
Plumpsmurfen - Walker isn't quite what we're looking for... It can be used in combo lines, but the Memnite and Ornithopter are only important because they stick: we want to be able to land them and Sacrifice them to an outlet.
Totatoke - I'm glad to hear it! Although I'm not sure what you'd need to tweak in this perfect list... However, I'm sure you've adjusted accordingly ;) The list is always growing on my end: just added Bygone Bishop for those grinder matches. Being able to recur an Artifact generator that subsequently let's you Draw ain't half bad it turns out. Also, Gerrard doesn't quite compete. They both have many moving parts, but fortunately White is equipped with all the resources we need to handle the game plan laid out by Teshar and this list. Also, being Mono-White allows us to be greedy with our Land base, having a low count with multiple utilities. Gerrard is a far second from the Bird, though I'd love to see (and play) against a list.
2 months ago
needs more cleric tribal - I'd ditch the backup Orzhov subtheme ( Basilica Screecher , Crypt Ghast , Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts , & Tithe Taker ) and probably the Regal Bloodlord for some cleric support: Akroma's Devoted , Battlefield Medic , Battletide Alchemist , and Daru Spiritualist come to mind for that. Edgewalker is a must for the colors, and I'd probably ditch the monuments and obilisk of urd for more clerics - Alms Collector and Bygone Bishop give decent card draw, Eight-and-a-Half-Tails , Giver of Runes and Mother of Runes offer amazing protection for your field. Frontline Medic and Selfless Spirit offer indistrucbablity for your own wipes. Sin Collector offers good andi-countermagic / tide-turner removal. High Priest of Penance is just amazing with the recusion this deck should have. Rotlung Reanimator turns all clerics into double duty sac fodder, and Priest of Forgotten Gods , Yawgmoth, Thran Physician , and Whisper, Blood Liturgist are more than happy to supply that role, with Skirsdag High Priest backing them up. and Weathered Wayfarer pulls the same job as Land Tax , but can fetch non-basics, and is a cleric.
4 months ago
Looks like a fun deck! +1
For card draw, I would recommend Mentor of the Meek and Read the Bones and Alms Collector and Bygone Bishop and Priest of Forgotten Gods , all depending on your playgroup and how you usually play the deck.
4 months ago
Bygone Bishop and Nemesis Mask is another card I never heard of. These card are worth integrating into the deck. Nemesis Mask is a cheap way to get in a ton of damage. I think I'll buy a few for my other decks haha. Thank you for the suggestions!!
4 months ago
Mentor of the Meek was on my mind when I first constructed the deck, but I was worried it will not get it's full use due to all the anthem affects
Wow, yeah fantastic counterpoint! Did not think of that. Anthem effects are obviously great it just stinks you can’t run one of the better draw engines in white since white struggles with drawing cards. An alternative suggestion for this would be Bygone Bishop which I believe I’m also running in my Darien deck. Just a way to investigate and get some sort of drawing happening. Not incredibly efficient but also fits the budget.
Just from personal experience there have been plenty of games where Goldnight commander and Mirror Entity have just gone off, pumping my tokens into massive powerhouses. Goldnight can especially do this if you can generate a bunch at one time. It’s a very efficient ability.
A thought that just occurred to me... have you ever thought of running Nemesis Mask ? Could be a good fix to get damage through if you’re playing against another token deck or just having trouble in general getting through.
Glad to hear some suggestions helped!
5 months ago
Thanks for your long comment. I really appreciate how people like you spend loads of time and effort into helping a person like me. Sorry for responding late, I have been swamped with schoolwork and have had no chance to reply until now.
I really like your idea on adding cards that bounce themselves or something else to my hand, allowing me to use it as an effective mana sink. I'll definitely be adding some of those in.
I see your point on Aetherflux Reservoir . I might add one in, but there are so many things this deck needs that I'm not sure I can find a spot for this.
I'm not so hot about adding in Bygone Bishop , as I only have about 15 creatures with CMC 3 or less. The same thing goes for Mentor of the Meek . I'm also not a big fan of Sandstone Oracle because it has a too high CMC.
I'll definitely try and slot Cloud Key into my deck, even though it's above my budget. I'm not a big fan of any of your other ramp suggestions, apart from Solemn Simulacrum , but I might try them out.
I've never seen Selfless Spirit before, so I'll definitely add that in.
Now on to your cuts.
I see your point on the "+1/+1 counter lords". I'll take it out for more useful stuff.
5 months ago
I bumped into this list and felt like leaving a comment. I love Oketra, because she’s similar to the way I play Karamentra. From that perspective, these are some tips I have for your list:
- I’m missing the best mana sinks for this commander: Whitemane Lion , Kor Skyfisher and Stonecloaker . They can all bounce themselves, leading to cheap 4/4 vigilance tokens. Especially if you also have a cost reducer out.
- Aetherflux Reservoir can be good in this deck. Matches your lifegain theme and your commander.
- You hardly run any carddraw spells. Consider adding creatures like Mentor of the Meek , Bygone Bishop and Sandstone Oracle .
- Your ramp could also use some more spots. Solemn Simulacrum , Knight of the White Orchid , Weathered Wayfarer and Kor Cartographer are all creatures that do so, triggering Oketra. Another nice cost reducer that is just above your budget is Cloud Key .
- Selfless Spirit is a nice creature that protects your board.
Some card I would cut:
- Ajani’s Mantra doesn’t seem to be worth it. There are way better lifegain options
- Divine Visitation doesn’t seem like the best fit in this deck. Most your tokens are going to be 4/4 already. That card seems better suited in a deck that only makes small tokens.
- You are running some cards that require a +1/+1 counter synergy, but you hardly have any cards with +1/+1 counters. That theme also has no relation with your commander, so it seems a bit weird to me to include that here. I would cut some of those cards from the deck: like abzan battle priest, abzan falconer, annoy bond-kin.
Hope some of these tips match your vision for the deck!
GL & HF,
6 months ago
@ i like Bygone Bishop was thinking about adding it when it was first released but the deck was more voltron back then and kinda forgot about it after a while lol. So thank you for reminding me of it. Though the other two im not really a fan of (i could go into more detail if need be. ;) ) but thanks for the suggestions!
Bygone Bishop occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%