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Changeling Outcast
Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
Changeling Outcast can't block and can't be blocked.
SaberTech on
Varina: Unalive in 2025
2 months ago
Well, I'll try picking some options to cut from different points in your curve so that I don't mess with the balance you are trying to go for too much.
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Changeling Outcast I don't think that this one is really worth it. It is an early drop that can net you some value off of Varina if attacks don't look great but I think that I would prefer to see a mana rock over that in my starting hand pretty much every time.
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Champion of the Perished, Shambling Ghast, and Lazotep Reaver are also pretty low value options that I would prefer to be a mana rock in my opening hand but they at least have a bit of potential scaling value. The Champion could get big enough to pressure opponents a bit even though it doesn't have trample, and both the Ghast and Reaver could potentially do something late game with the Liliana, Untouched By Death combo line. Still, I would consider any of those three to be cuttable for other stuff.
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Relentless Dead I think that this card is too mana hungry. Varina's card filtering lets the deck be pretty consistent in finding cards that it wants to cast, so it's a waste to leave mana untapped just so that you can make use of Relentless Dead's abilities if it dies. You have other ways of getting creatures back in the deck, and I think that Zul Ashur, Lich Lord already fills the role better.
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Headless Rider Preferably, you don't want to be trading away your utility zombies in combat if you can help it so the Rider becomes more of a backup to get some value if an opponent uses removal than a way of getting ahead on board. It can produce infinite tokens off of some of the decks combos, I'll give it that, but on its own it is trying to compete with Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver, which can also combo and draw you cards. If you are looking for an alternative to it, I've actually been very impressed with Geralf, the Fleshwright in my own list. Geralf also combos and his ability to pump your zombies can get pretty nuts.
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Priest of the Crossing is a card that I'm just uncertain of. It's more a suggestion to just watch how this card performs for you in practice to see if it's worth it. I think that how well it fits will come down to play style.
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Noxious Ghoul and Temmet, Naktamun's Will kind of play a similar role in the deck, but from different angles. They both ultimately make your creatures harder to block. The Ghoul removes creatures, synergizes well with cards like Cryptcaller Chariot, and can fit in with some of your combos. It's dependent on other cards working well for it to do more than clear some small creatures each turn though. Temmet is a better body for your mana and his looting effect helps to fuel both itself and other cards in the deck. With other cards in the deck like On Wings of Gold, Zombie Master, or Death Baron that also make it harder for the opponent to block you could decide which of them ends up doing more for you overall after some testing.
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Land Tax is a card that I like in my own deck but what I mainly use it for is a way to put a bunch of cards in my hand to loot away for something better. I don't put too much emphasis on it as a way to mana fix. With only 6 basics in your deck you only get a couple shots with it, but considering that it is only 1 mana that still could be enough value for what you spend. Just something to keep your eye on.
Fluggleshmuggits on
Cube Eternal
5 months ago
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Los333 on
General Tazri’s Allies
5 months ago
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Lord_Olga on
Sneaky Sewer-Rat Spies
7 months ago
Love the flavor, how does it do with the mana though? i see you have some things in here that help make ninjutsu cheaper, but setting a lot of this stuff up looks like it costs a lot of mana, and you've only got 20 lands. Your only turn one play is to put a candlestick out. You'll be playing unblockable creatures (which both cost 2cmc), then sending in ninjas by paying the ninjutsu cost, then resummoning your unblockables. Your early game draw combo with candlestick takes 4 turns to set up if you open the game with it (most LGS decks in modern are gearing up to play their wincon by then) and it also involves equipping your looter with it, which means you wont want to use it for ninjutsu or you'll have to re-equip candlestick which will slow you down.. you plan on using rogues passage to get ninjas out, but it also costs 4 mana to use and then you'd have to pay the ninjutsu cost for something still.
I do see you have some wincons set up that could go off at around turn 4-5, but they arent really related to the ninja stuff at all and setting them up is gonna slow down the ninja strategy as well as the other combos you're wanting to get going. Other way around too, if you do ninja stuff or draw you're gonna slow down preparing your wincons.
I sense a lot of conflict in this deck, focusing on one strat slows down another and on top of that you're rocking 20 lands (most of which enter tapped which will also slow you down) which means you'll probably not be playing a land each turn a good portion of the time. Usually 20 lands is for decks that either have a very low mana curve (average cmc of like 1.8, hardly any cards costing 3 or more cmc to play), or decks that have lots of ramp/draw to fall back on.
Let me know if im missing something but from what i see this thing is either gonna run super slow when you play its totality, or you're gonna have to essentially ignore the ninjutsu/unblockable aspect to setup your rat based wincons in time.
If that is true, i would suggest upping your land count to 24, getting rid of the lands that enter tapped in favor of something like Drowned Catacomb, or Polluted Delta, trimming some of the more expensive cards like Patriarch's Bidding that don't really fit what you're doing, and then look for some cheaper mana cost alternatives for what you're trying to do. For example, Aqueous Form makes a creature unblockable for 1 mana instead of 4 like Rogue's Passage, and it does it indefinitely. Curious Obsession is great for that +1/+1 and draw on an unblockable creature that takes 1 mana instead of setting up Candlestick and Shoreline Looter for 5 mana total and several turns to get cards in your graveyard. And if you want to break flavor a little bit, lots of good 1 drop unblockable creatures, technically Changeling Outcast is still a rat lol and then theres stuff like Slither Blade that is certainly not a rat, but good. And aside from that I guess just try to bring things together a bit more.
Anyway thats all I got, sorry for being so long winded but dimir stealthiness is my jam hahaha
nuperokaso on
Esper Allies
10 months ago
- Don't play Counterspell. You tap out most of your turns, and the double blue is not going to work with your mana base.
- Don't play blue at all. Halimar Excavator in this build is weak, as you have only 2 March from the Tomb as a payoff. And that is also not the best. Void Rend can be replaced by a lot of other removals.
- You should avoid 5 mana cards. With only 20 lands in your deck, you won't be able to play them.
- Play 4 Hada Freeblade. It's the best turn 1 play you have.
- An aggro deck needs some other 1 mana plays as well. I would suggest maybe some 2 Expedition Envoy, 2 Changeling Outcast and 1 Cliffside Lookout. That would bring the number of 1 mana creatures in your deck to 9, which is about right if you want to have one in your opening hand.
- Retreat to Emeria and Kor Entanglers are garbage. Don't play any of them.
- Don't play more than 1 Lantern Scout. Second copy does pretty much nothing. Talus Paladin is better and you should play 2-3.
- In the end, you have to decide whether you want to go all-in on life-gain/drain, or all-in on attacking and +1/+1 counters. Now you are split and then you do neither efficiently.
- The path with attacking is probably better. In that case, you want to play 4 Kazandu Blademaster, 4 Bojuka Brigand, 4 Kabira Evangel, a few Rally the Ranks and remove Cliffhaven Vampire, Ondu Cleric.
- If you go with life-gain, add 4 Serene Steward
DreadKhan on
Sauron's Dark Kingdom EDH
11 months ago
Changeling Outcast isn't from Lord of the Rings, but you can put Army counters on it because it's also an army. You can also try Mistwalker and/or Taurean Mauler, though they aren't as evasive.
Cool list, always neat to see a strong Sauron deck!
DreadKhan on Edh options
11 months ago
He's not heavily played, but Kresh the Bloodbraided can do some absolutely nutso things when he's big enough, and the deck often has some control elements (especially vs creatures, the deck wants to kill off everything but Kresh typically). It can be built on a budget (for Casual play) or as a High Power deck. On a budget you run all of the Merciless Executioner effects you can find, and at higher power you'll still run a bunch of them, but you'll also have Dictate of Erebos effects. Rite of the Raging Storm by itself turns Kresh into a huge body, and it's easy to include lots of Flings/Chandra's Ignition/Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord to win, but you can also use stuff like Mandate of Abaddon to wipe the board and one-shot someone, there are a TON of cards that play very well with Kresh, and people probably aren't familiar with the deck at this point.
Another option might be Azorius Control, Azorius is a great pair for wipes, removal and countermagic, meaning you can deal with problems, both for yourself as well as the table. I guess you might go something like Shorikai, Genesis Engine and play any vehicles that don't suck? You can freely wipe your pilots without risking your vehicles, even without things like Teferi's Protection. The card draw Shorikai offers can really help you dig, and it synergizes with untap effects.
My final idea would be something like Sauron, the Dark Lord, Grixis gives you a lot of control options, and Sauron makes you a big honking army very readily, and fwiw you can make an evasive Changeling (like Changeling Outcast) your Army in place of a token. Grixis struggles a bit vs certain types of permanents, but you can certainly pressure people and have input as to what stays around.
Oh yeah, just thought of a bad idea I've never gotten around to testing, but you might be able to build Optimus Prime, Hero Flip with all the Jeskai wipes you can find? Optimus can 'survive' a wipe, so as long as you can give him Haste somehow you can swing each turn vs a cleared board, wiping whenever anyone gets anything relevant out. Would it be obnoxious? Incredibly so. But I think it could work, especially since you have Red for various good Haste sources. You probably need lots of things to protect Optimus from Swords effects, including a smattering of Blue counters that are either free or cost {U} so you can hold them up.
Taking a look at other people's ideas, I support Karazikar and Breena, both seem like great fits!