Cliffhaven Vampire

Creature — Vampire Warrior Ally

Flying

Whenever you gain life, each opponent loses 1 life.

Discussion (51)

Nostrafer on Budget Orzhov Vampires

1 week ago

Hey there 5dollarMTG!

Good to see you here, and thanks for the comment. You work is awesome! I actually have your $5 Kor Equipment built at home and it is so much fun!

Well, for the deck... I completely overlooked Feast of Blood! It's a perfect card for the deck. In fact, as it is going for the win by turn 5-6, if you have a good draw, it really needs some interaction for dealing with the opponent's threats. And as this friend's thing is definitely the flavor, I suppose he'll love it!

About Cliffhaven Vampire... Don't you think its mana requirement isn't a little too heavy for a cad without haste or an ETB effect? It will certainly be tested, but it seems to me it is in the slow side of the spectrum. He could be here as a sub for Vampire Sovereign, but think the deck would resent the lack of her attached Sovereign's Bite.

5dollarMTG on Budget Orzhov Vampires

1 week ago

Cliffhaven Vampire would be a good fit for your 4-drop spot. You also need some removal; Feast of Blood is cheap and on theme.

Roo182 on Karlov/Sorin Blessed

1 week ago

So LordBlackblade - in summary:

• How do I remove those 5 remaining lands and what should come in their stead?
• Some potential cuts include Ranger of Eos / Night's Whisper / Hedron Archive / Solemn Simulacrum
• I REALLY want to get Syphon Mind in this deck

Also: There is a myriad of creatures I need to find ways of adding:

• Combo Bois - Blood Artist / Deathgreeter / Cliffhaven Vampire // Suture Priest // Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim

• Swol Bois - Divinity of Pride / Serra Ascendant / Walking Ballista

• Protection Bois - Mother of Runes

• Draw Bois = Ruin Raider // Dark Tutelage

If you were me, what would you do? :D

Arktaurous on Edgar Markov Vampires

1 week ago

Great deck!

I would swap Vampire Cutthroat with Vampire of the Dire Moon because deathtouch is handier than skulk.

I would get Dark Impostor in there. You could swap out Stromkirk Condemned,Vampire Hexmage, or Vampire Nocturnus. More than half your deck isn't black cards so Vampire Nocturnus might not be as handy not to mention showing your opponent your next draw is not usually advantageous.

Purphoros, God of the Forge is kinda expensive for a chance at extra damage. Consider Brutal Hordechief; relative same cost but more bang for your buck. Along with Sanctum Seeker and say Foul-Tongue Shriek you could be doing a ton of damage.

I would swap Basalt Monolith out for Ashnod's Altar. A lot more mana production, a lot more synergy with other cards in the deck, less expensive, more utility est.

I think you really need some card draw in there but I'm not sure how to make those changes. You could use cards like Oathsworn Vampire as a way to sacrifice a creature for cards like Altar's Reap, Carnage Altar,Costly Plunder, Dredge, Merciless Resolve, Morbid Curiosity, Phyrexian Vault, Reprocess, Skulltap, or Vampiric Rites.

Idol of Oblivion could get you some extra card draw with all of Edgar's token generation.

Cliffhaven Vampire, Defiant Bloodlord, and Epicure of Blood are all worthy of consideration.

Drana's Emissary is also nice to have early game.

LordBlackblade on Karlov/Sorin Blessed

1 week ago

And it looks like spoilers don't work in comments, at least not for me! So much for keeping things neat. Anyway, here's what I wanted to say:

Cuts

Lands

• Esper Panorama - Seems unnecessary in a two color deck. If you build it right, color fixing should never be a problem

• Geier Reach Sanitarium - You have access to better card draw effects in black

• Kabira Crossroads - One time life gain doesn't make up for coming in tapped

• Memorial to Folly - This one is just okay. The effect is alright, probably not worth losing a land for in my opinion

• Orzhov Guildgate - I personally avoid tap lands like the plague, they slow you down to much in my opinion

• Radiant Fountain - One time life gain doesn't make up for this not producing colored mana

• Scoured Barrens - See Kabira Crossroads

Enchantments

• Curse of Fool's Wisdom - This really screws over one opponent, but what you should be shooting for is stuff that does "splash damage" so to speak, remember, you will usually have three or more opponents in a game.

Artifacts

• Armillary Sphere - This one is just okay. Ensures you hit land drops, but doesn't boost you

• Bontu's Monument - I don't feel like you're running enough creatures for this effect to pay off

• Fountain of Renewal - "On your upkeep" effects seem really powerful, but on a multiplayer format, your upkeep happens less often relatively speaking. It's not terrible for the cost, but I'm sure we can do better

Sorceries

• Final Parting - I don't think you have enough graveyard interaction to make this better than other tutors

Creatures

• Drana's Emissary - See Fountain of Renewal

• Ranger of Eos - This can only snag four of your creatures. Granted those creatures are pretty good for your strategey, but I personally don't think it is worth it

Instants

• Murder - There are definitely better kill spells we can find

• Ray of Distortion - Not bad, you're definitely getting that choice is key in EDH; however, I think there are a couple better options to choose from

Adds

Enchantments

• Ashes of the Abhorrent - Deathgreeter in enchantment form. Also hoses some graveyard strategies

Artifacts

• Sun Droplet - This card is a sleeper! Not that it says each upkeep, helping you stack those sweet, sweet Karlov triggers

• Talisman of Hierarchy - I love the talismans. Great rocks in any multicolor EDH deck in my opinion

Sorceries

• Read the Bones - One of my favorite black draw spells. Card selection plus draw is generally very powerful

• Syphon Mind - A critically underplayed draw spell in my opinion. Puts you up quite a few cards on each opponent

Creatures

• Blood Artist - This guy does work in so many situations. Usually an auto-target in most metas, that just goes to show how powerful the effect is

• Cliffhaven Vampire - If you're going to run Sanguine Bond, you should consider this guy too

• Deathgreeter - A lower-aggro Blood Artist. Most people won't mind the life gain, and Karlov can get swol

• Divinity of Pride - Similar to Serra Ascendant, big beater for cheap plus lifelink!

• Vizkopa Guildmage - See Cliffhaven Vampire

Instants

• Return to Dust - Gives you options and can snag two cards for one. Considered a staple in some circles

(I've been on this site a long time and I still haven't figured out the quirks of coding on here all that well!)

LordBlackblade on Karlov/Sorin Blessed

1 week ago

I took a gander. Honestly, not bad for you first list!

Here are some adds that might be worth considering. I know multimedia already recommended some of these, but here is my take:

Adds Show

Enchantments

• Ashes of the Abhorrent - Deathgreeter in enchantment form. Also hoses some graveyard strategies

Artifacts

• Sun Droplet - This card is a sleeper! Not that it says each upkeep, helping you stack those sweet, sweet Karlov triggers

• Talisman of Hierarchy - I love the talismans. Great rocks in any multicolor EDH deck in my opinion

Sorceries

• Read the Bones - One of my favorite black draw spells. Card selection plus draw is generally very powerful

• Syphon Mind - A critically underplayed draw spell in my opinion. Puts you up quite a few cards on each opponent

Creatures

• Blood Artist - This guy does work in so many situations. Usually an auto-target in most metas, that just goes to show how powerful the effect is

• Cliffhaven Vampire - If you're going to run Sanguine Bond, you should consider this guy too

• Deathgreeter - A lower-aggro Blood Artist. Most people won't mind the life gain, and Karlov can get swol

• Divinity of Pride - Similar to Serra Ascendant, big beater for cheap plus lifelink!

• Vizkopa Guildmage - See Cliffhaven Vampire

Instants

• Return to Dust - Gives you options and can snag two cards for one. Considered a staple in some circles

Here are my cut recommendations to make room for upgrades/changes:

Cuts Show

Lands

• Esper Panorama - Seems unnecessary in a two color deck. If you build it right, color fixing should never be a problem

• Geier Reach Sanitarium - You have access to better card draw effects in black

• Kabira Crossroads - One time life gain doesn't make up for coming in tapped

• Memorial to Folly - This one is just okay. The effect is alright, probably not worth losing a land for in my opinion

• Orzhov Guildgate - I personally avoid tap lands like the plague, they slow you down to much in my opinion

• Radiant Fountain - One time life gain doesn't make up for this not producing colored mana

• Scoured Barrens - See Kabira Crossroads

Enchantments

• Curse of Fool's Wisdom - This really screws over one opponent, but what you should be shooting for is stuff that does "splash damage" so to speak, remember, you will usually have three or more opponents in a game.

Artifacts

• Armillary Sphere - This one is just okay. Ensures you hit land drops, but doesn't boost you

• Bontu's Monument - I don't feel like you're running enough creatures for this effect to pay off

• Fountain of Renewal - "On your upkeep" effects seem really powerful, but on a multiplayer format, your upkeep happens less often relatively speaking. It's not terrible for the cost, but I'm sure we can do better

Sorceries

• Final Parting - I don't think you have enough graveyard interaction to make this better than other tutors

Creatures

• Drana's Emissary - See Fountain of Renewal

• Ranger of Eos - This can only snag four of your creatures. Granted those creatures are pretty good for your strategey, but I personally don't think it is worth it

Instants

• Murder - There are definitely better kill spells we can find

• Ray of Distortion - Not bad, you're definitely getting that choice is key in EDH; however, I think there are a couple better options to choose from

multimedia on Sorin/Karlov Blessed Deck Help

2 weeks ago

Hey, I agree if you want to play Vamps, have a Vamp army with Sorin then Edgar Markov is the best tribal Vampire Commander. You could play a secondary life gain/drain strategy with Edgar; Cliffhaven Vampire + Righteous Cause.

With Karlov of the Ghost Council you want to play the best cards within the budget that gain you life or use life to give you value which are mostly nonVamp cards. Karlov is the center of attention, you build around him. Edgar is different; you may not even cast Edgar in a game. Instead utilize his eminence ability from the Command Zone; cast Vamps to create Vamp tokens which builds you an army to attack.

Karlov is a win condition, doing Commander damage which is less relying on other creatures to attack. Of course other creatures can attack especially if they have evasion and lifelink. The purpose of creatures with Karlov is to support him in some way.

How I would play Karlov with a $200 budget:

• Cards that life gain during your turn and opponents turns: Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant, Leonin Elder, Kambal, Consul of Allocation
• Voltron to help him attack: Shadowspear, Basilisk Collar, Spirit Loop
• K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth and extort: Blind Obedience, Thrull Parasite, Crypt Ghast, Pontiff of Blight, Tithe Drinker, Basilica Screecher
• Bolas's Citadel + Aetherflux Reservoir to take advantage of life gain.

Aetherflux and Collar were just reprinted in the Mystery Booster set; those versions are $4 and $2. The nice thing about extort with Karlov is it gives you a life gain source for important cards that you should play that don't normally gain you life such as mana rocks, enchantments, removal spells, etc. Smothering Tithe + Leonin Elder can be a life gain and counters engine with Karlov.

king-saproling on Karlov life gain

1 month ago

Karlov is a stronk general. These cards might interest you: Well of Lost Dreams, Necropotence, Shizo, Death's Storehouse, Cliffhaven Vampire, Epicure of Blood, Crested Sunmare, Angelic Accord, Resplendent Angel, Seraph Sanctuary, Regna, the Redeemer, Krav, the Unredeemed, Paradise Plume, Necrologia, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, Greed, Erebos, God of the Dead