Creature — Vampire Warrior Ally
Whenever you gain life, each opponent loses 1 life.
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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Cliffhaven Vampire Discussion
1 month ago
it's cool in theory, but in practice.. i run Orzhov Bleed. without a creature presence, there was no blocking against attackers. that might not seem like an issue, but lifelink + Cliffhaven Vampire was throttling your deck. as well, there wasn't enough targeted removal. Shimian Specter, Bitter Ordeal, Skirk Ridge Exhumer would all help this issue. having creature generation, attackers that demand an answer, and something that violently compliments Damnation will help
1 month ago
Guardian of the Guildpact, Soulsworn Jury, Stoic Ephemera; good defensive creatures that are still tribal that could be included. i'm sure there's a spirit creature token generator fits the color restrictions in here... the only one i know of is Honden of Life's Web, but that's green. while there is lots of cheap creatures to keep up the aggression early to mid game, i don't see anything for the big win. just about any deck (except shield-burn for an obvious reason) will have something to force the gate open. for example, i have a decent orzhov (BW) passive bleed deck with lots of cheap cast cards, but use Debt to the Deathless as a stand-alone or Cliffhaven Vampires + Ready / Willing to turn the game violently in my favor. doesn't have to be big, flashy, or expensive, but something that says "deal with it or you lose"
i would definitely recommend, however, putting in a couple Leonin Sun Standards in for the group boost; it's cheap, it's effect is decent, and demands an answer
1 month ago
1 month ago
I have a very similar deck that I'm still working on, but I really like Drana's Emissary . I also have Pulse Tracker in mine which is nice because it deals one damage to all players when it attacks which can trigger cards like Exquisite Blood and Cliffhaven Vampire . I might replace vampire cutthroat with ally or a card like pulse tracker. also trespassers curse could use another copy. I also agree with Elmoisamac about run-in x4 of good allies.
4 months ago
DemonDragonJ Reducing confusion probably wasn't the only reason it was changed, but I'm sure it factored into the decision.
I could understand a creature version of Exquisite Blood , but I don't expect it to show up regularly. I count eight cards with a variant of the SB effect: Cliffhaven Vampire , Defiant Bloodlord , Dina, Soul Steeper , Epicure of Blood , Marauding Blight-Priest , Sanguine Bond , Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , and Vizkopa Guildmage . A new EB goes infinite with all of these, with incredible redundancy.
How would you stat a creature version out? What would you expect its mana value and P/T to be?
5 months ago
I dont think it will be better than Cliffhaven Vampire but maybe we will see.
6 months ago
Hey, you're welcome. Nice update so far.
Yes, Cliffhaven Vampire is an upgrade for Epicure of Blood because Cliffhaven is one less mana and has flying. Etchings of the Chosen is a good card with Vamp tokens, it's a an upgrade for Ethereal Absolution or Curse of Vitality .
For €10 get Captivating Vampire 5, Drana, Liberator of Malakir 3, Sol Ring 1. Sol is a staple card in Commander for ramp and it helps when playing a lot of high CMC cards. Having a powerful three drop Vamp to curve into after one and two drops Vamps with Vamp tokens is good for the mid game. Drana, Liberator of Malakir and Captivating Vampire are two of the better three drop Vamps to get damage done in the mid game until you can cast Edgar or Regent later on.
Changes to consider to add these three are:
- Captivating Vampire --> Bloodbond Vampire
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir --> Blood Baron of Vizkopa
- Sol Ring --> Teysa Karlov
You still want to cut three cards to make 100. Cards to consider cutting:
- Thief of Blood : Thief removes all counters from your creatures too and Edgar puts counters on your creatures.
- Ethereal Absolution
- Grave Betrayal
My advice for the next upgrades are to improve the manabase and ramp by adding more dual lands that can ETB untapped and mana rocks to improve ramp. This can be done by cutting lands that always ETB tapped and some five/four/three CMC cards for ramp to help to cast the better high CMC cards such as Edgar. This change will speed up game play making it easier to cast one, two and three drop Vamps.
The avg. CMC of your deck is high at 3.5, with only 33 lands can be inconsistent to have mana to cast cards. Low CMC mana rocks can be used in place of lands since they can make mana and also help with color fixing.
Some examples of mana rock and budget land upgrades:
- Arcane Signet --> Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
- Orzhov Signet --> Kheru Bloodsucker
- Boros Signet --> Malakir Cullblade
- Rakdos Signet --> Blood for Bones
- Caves of Koilos --> Forsaken Sanctuary
- Exotic Orchard --> Boros Guildgate
- Battlefield Forge --> Stone Quarry
- Smoldering Marsh --> Rakdos Guildgate
- Tainted Field --> Orzhov Guildgate
6 months ago
thanks for the feedback I used your advise to alter the deck. I also came across a few more options for the deck. Would Cliffhaven Vampire be a good substitution for Epicure of Blood ? And can the cards Pitiless Pontiff and Etchings of the Chosen be of any use? I also want to get a commbination of the following cards of around 10 euros: Merciless Eviction 1.16, True Conviction 1.15, Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet 3.10, Olivia Voldaren 2.31, Kindred Boon 2.00, Captivating Vampire 5.00, Patron of the Vein 6.82, New Blood 3.50, Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose 4.50. Which ones should I go for?