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Retreat to Emeria
Landfall — Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, choose one &mdashl
- Put a 1/1 white Kor Ally creature token onto the battlefield.
- Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.
4 months ago
I will preface my feedback by acknowledging that I don't currently own my Thalia/Gitrog deck in paper and haven't played it at all IRL.
I think you are spot on in being heavy on the ramp. Since Thalia/Gitrog already has the extra land drop effect stapled on to them, I think you could stand to cut 3-4 of your 1 drop mana dorks, and 1-2 other Extra Land Drop effects. For similar reasons, I think you could safely cut Smothering Tithe. Yes, it's a great card, but I think you already have a ton of ramp, and Thalia/Gitrog taps down your opponents' lands, so it feels a bit extra. I think some of the following could be helpful:
Serra Paragon - As another recursion source for sacrificed lands and smaller creatures.
You could even use some of the mana dork slots for hatebears and stax effects like Collector Ouphe, Drannith Magistrate, or Archon of Emeria. They can support the hate effects that Thalia/Gitrog already have, and you can sacrifice them if needed to break parity once they've served their purpose.
I hope these are helpful suggestions.
7 months ago
Love it. Why no Scute Swarm or Tireless Tracker? Also, this might be an unusual option, but I like Turntimber Basilisk in this deck specifically. Lastly, Vandalblast.
Also unsure why you have Whitemane Lion or Zendikar's Roil or Primeval Bounty or Inspiring Leader or Retreat to Kazandu.
Wouldn't Retreat to Emeria or Felidar Retreat have anthem-like effects in this deck?
1 year ago
That does sound tough since each of those tend to take a bit of time. You could get some payoff from Cleansing and Planar Birth to massively buff Ondu Greathorn or Retreat to Emeria, allowing you to only target your basic lands. Or even target only lands with a Balancing Act.
If you're going the landfall route, which may work if you add some more options like Boreas Charger if you've sacrificed your lands or Crucible of Worlds, Oreskos Explorer, Stoic Farmer, Eternal Dragon, Timeless Dragon or anything else with plainscycling. More buffing cards like Canyon Jerboa or Felidar Retreat could help with the subtheme, and as many options with landfall like Fearless Fledgling, Prowling Felidar, Emeria Angel, and Emeria Shepherd. The Shepherd is very strong recursion, though sadly doesn't target lands.
All in all, with the basic land angle there are a lot of options for landfall abilities in white, so may as well make use of those for a more immediate power buff than something slow like Elspeth, Sun's Champion.
1 year ago
Monomanamaniac No worries! Your feedback is welcome and helpful. I really like the Crashing Drawbridge rec, Swiftfoot Boots I could end up adding to if Lightning Greaves doesn't do enough work. Doubling up on that may not be a bad idea in the end. It'll mostly depend if I will have a slot for it. Cheers
freezerboy hey thanks for taking the time to play-test and comment! I'm pleased to hear the land grabbing works as I planned it too. Your question is the main trouble I've had so far in creating this angle for the deck... I really just have Basri Ket and Elspeth, Sun's Champion for offense. My other idea was to use Armored Ascension and Unquestioned Authority on Mageta to go in for lethal commander since the idea is Mageta would be the only creature left on the board. Other than that, if I'm outlasting my opponents I figure I would just get in damage slowly but surely. It's a crappy strategy, so I'm game for more recs regarding firepower. I don't think there are any Hail Marys in the direction of lands matter for white other than Admonition Angel, Emeria Shepherd and Trove Warden. I did have a few really janky ideas like Ondu Greathorn and Retreat to Emeria to pump or go wide. I also found a Reaping the Rewards in my cards yesterday which coukd be fun to pull off before Armageddon resolves.
1 year ago
Awesome deck. While you have many ways to win it might be a good idea to have some insurance for if you need to go wide like Scute Swarm or one of the more inferior cards with a similar effect like Emeria Angel to deal with fliers, Felidar Retreat to make creatures or make existing creatures big, Retreat to Emeria same as Felidar Retreat but the boost is temporary and there is no vigilance, Tireless Provisioner can provide treasure tokens to get even faster ramp, or food tokens to survive fast burn and such.
2 years ago
Nice one, some suggestions:
- Overrun is a strictly better Overcome except for the and it's still budget-friendly; this is an easy one since you should'nt have problems with mana fixing.
- Emeria Shepherd is nuts in the very late game, and I don't see many mana sinks for that part of the game in your list. On the other hand I don't know what to cut, maybe consider her if you find yourself with like 15 mana open and nothing to do with it too often, or if you have problems with recursion and mass removal.
- Even if Retreat to Emeria is a strictly worse Felidar Retreat, I think it is still worth running as it can easily win games in decks like this. Same problem with what to cut tho.
2 years ago
Temur Sabertooth can go infinite with Dockside Extortionist, so it might be a good add, as redundancy for Emiel the Blessed. Felidar Retreat is better than cards that didn't make the cut, such as Zendikar's Roil and Retreat to Emeria. It seems worth a shot. Conclave Mentor is another Hardened Scales effect, but does cost twice the mana. I'm not sure what any cuts are, as this list looks pretty tight; I'm just tossing out a few ideas that seem worth considering.
3 years ago
VorelNailo these were all cards that were up for consideration. Zendikar's Roil work nicely with some of our things but it's also a bit too high on our curve. The angel has that nasty triple white pips; it is a nice utility but we're gunna need to bank on being able to follow up a 6 drop with more land drops, not impossible with our 34 lands + recursion but seems like a very high investment that banks on us having other resources at our disposal. Retreat to Emeria is just too low impact.