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Engulf the Shore
Return to their owner's hands all creatures with toughness less than or equal to the number of Islands you control.
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Engulf the Shore Discussion
1 week ago
Wutmeworry You don't have that many islands so maybe switch Engulf the Shore with Sleep or another big counter of your choice. For control decks you just probably need to increase the amount of basic counters like Negate or Spell Pierce . Syncopate is just a better Clash of Wills . I don't have I am working on currently so I'll instead plug my friends.
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1 month ago
Gidgetimer Valid points about this being a "Tokens deck".
I'm also keen to test out the new card from RNA Unbreakable Formation .
Relooking at the strategy through the "token lens", I may be trying out Eerie Interlude and Unbreakable Formation . The former still offers protection against mass bounce effects (e.g. Cyclonic Rift , Evacuation , Wash Out , Engulf the Shore ) and the option to select which creature(s) I blink grants me the flexibility to protect my key non-token creatures from single target exile spells.
1 month ago
@Jeepod: I actually ordered a playset of Wall of Lost Thoughts alongside with Quench , Thought Collapse and Warrant / Warden to test them out. Warrant / Warden has a chance of being the long-awaited instant-speed removal this deck needed. A 4-cmc or 5-cmc mass-bounce effect like Engulf the Shore would have been nice as well, but you can't have everything.
4 months ago
I don't know what your budget is, but "sweepers" are always good, even in token decks. If you can, definitely play Cyclonic Rift, and maybe River's Rebuke, AEtherize, Coastal Breach, Engulf the Shore, Evacuation, Inundate, Kederekt Leviathan.
5 months ago
Yeah, I just tested it out, and it's still really inconsistent. You've got a lot of ways to slow down the opponent, but you don't have enough ways to answer the threats your opponent manages to get out during those turns where you cast Fraying Sanity or Jace, Memory Adept, and you don't have enough card draw to always counter the opponent's threats when you hold those until you have enough mana to play them plus a counterspell.
Cut the Overburdens and Winter Orbs - they're not helping you mill the opponent or draw enough cards. Propaganda might help slow down the enemy, but you might consider a mass bounce spell (like AEtherspouts, Engulf the Shore, or Displacement Wave) to deal with threats that have already hit the board, allowing you to use one card to counter 4-5 of your opponent's cards (unlike the 1-for-1s that counterspells always are). Maybe run an Ensnaring Bridge instead of propaganda too, just to slow them down further?
6 months ago
i built a similar deck a while ago (around $30 budget) Tatyova, Spellinging Druid so lesions i learned you very quickly get a ridiculous amount of mana on the field and card advantage isn't a problem so you need big payoff cards to use this mana, the best/most fun options i found where
lastly in the end i went for a more spell slinging theme to the deck (which is not to everyone's taste i know) but to try to add in every "fetch land to battlefield" effect you can add in as they are all cantrips in the deck as well as ramp, evey small cretures that ramp like Wood Elves and Farhaven Elf are worth including as if you top deck these late game the are not a dead draw as they let you draw a card and thin the deck of lands.
some other less budget cards that are worth including are Ulvenwald Hydra, Solemn Simulacrum, Kozilek, the Great Distortion, Tireless Tracker, Thassa, God of the Sea, Genesis Wave, Greenwarden of Murasa, Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle
7 months ago
Well i’m glad that you took my suggestion, but that’s a problem if it works in fact too well... Let me give more thought to what else might work. For now my only idea would be to stick with the general gameplay of mill but do so in a different way like that of my above mentioned mill deck, doesn’t Engulf the Shore or maybe Devastation Tide, and the like a step down from all of the fog effects? It helps you save some money perhaps too as you can surely use some of the same cards in it maybe.
7 months ago
Hey Loeffner, I have put together a few decklists for you here on tappedout, keeping in mind what you have said. I don't know how much more cheaper I can make some of these though without compromising their strategies, but I will leave that up to you to decide.
In fact this first one is the Second Sun Control challenger deck that Wizards put out for sale a few months ago, in fact I play a more expensive version of this deck in standard currently. It could be a good starting point.
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Here is another control deck except this one's a little different because the goal is to mill your opponent(s). It plays a lot of fog effects like Holy Day to stall attacks against you. I won't take credit for this one either as it's originally a budget magic deck posted by SaffronOlive over at mtggoldfish, however I have made numerous changes to the deck that have made it closer to your price range. (Note there's a number of cards that I left to the side as potential changes you could make to the list).
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Next is another mill deck, but this one is different again by playing bounce spells like Engulf the Shore, Blink of an Eye etc alongside again Sphinx's Tutelage (It's cheaper than the above list even after the cuts, but I don't think it would fair as well against aggressive decks tbh). I use to play a casual standard deck like this one once in standard, but if I recall I had a few other things in the deck such as Thing in the Ice Flip and Manic Scribe?
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All of this I put together in the span of like 30 minutes and they lack sideboards atm. They all could maybe use some more changes, but I think they are a decent start to what you maybe had in mind. I think if any, you should go for either the Approach of the Second Sun challenger deck or the turbo fog deck listed above out of all of these and you can make more changes as you see fit from there. I hope some of this is of use anyways!
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