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Dream Cache Discussion
3 months ago
Since you fill your own graveyard too with Ghoulcaller's Bell, you could play cards like Treasure Cruise, instead of Ponder. You could easily draw 3 cards for 1 mana instead of look 3 cards, choose 1 and put 2 back. Also, Brainstorm would probably be better, since you draw 3 cards (which trigger Jace's Erasure 3 times) and you put 2 back on your library, so you doesn't mill yourself! (Dream Cache as the same effect, more or less)
I don't think you need black to discard. Well, you can, but I would probably not do it.
Tbh, I would concentrate on Jace's Erasure mechanic, drawing much cards while milling the opponent. You can, then, play control cards like counter spells and things like that, to prevent your opponent to play anything. (If you go with this stragety, I would probably prefer Fraying Sanity as a noble)
6 months ago
It's funny my Melek deck is my combo deck and my Mizzix deck is my value deck. Avoiding adding combo cards some synergistic cheap cards I've found are Dream Cache (brainstorm but worse), Mystic Speculation, and Soothsaying. However, these may lean the deck more towards depending on Melek too much, but Mystic Speculation is great for Sphinx-Bone Wand/any storm card.
6 months ago
Post first draft, just about to switch to second draft:Thoughts on various cards:
Given the possibility of opening Cryptic Serpent (which is actually a blessing in some situations), by the time I draw this card, it's a 6/5 for an average of about 3 mana. Taking out the possibility of opening with it, I feel like it would be about 2.6. For a 6/ that's amazing!At its worst, Enigma Drake is a 0/4 defender with flying. In a deck like mine, its power goes up quickly. Late game, it can be a 3 mana drop for an 8/4. The unchanging nature of its toughness is somewhat problematic, but it becomes a scary heavy hitter that can kill almost any individual attacker.The only issue with these two is that they are highly vulnerable to generic creature removal, but this also helps draw attention away from my other creatures, which, given the effective mana costs of these two creatures makes this less of a blow than it should be.
Thermo-Alchemist and Gelectrode: The Ping Twins, the bread and butter creatures of my deck. Thermo-Alchemist is a pretty good defender, can ping a player during their end phase, and can do a lot of damage if lots of instants/sorceries are played.Gelectrode is probably the truest creature face of my deck. Relatively cheap, unassuming, incredibly powerful for its 0/1 stats, its ability to ping anything for 1, and untap like Thermo-Alchemist does is super helpful. It can't defend like [Thermo-Alchemist], but it can take down a large number of small creatures or 1 large creature in a single turn, especially when paired with burn spells.
As much as I want some sort of Chemist in my deck, Mercurial Chemister is too often a dead draw for my tastes. Its blue tap ability is fantastic, especially when paired with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, and its red tap ability can deal with huge creatures, but it tends to be a little too limited, and Mercurial Chemister is too vulnerable and expensive for what it is.
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, on the other hand, is amazing. He's expensive, and I still don't really like his vanity (which is weird, considering that some of my favorite people are very vain) and how he runs the Izzet Guild (which, I understand comes from a general misunderstanding of the nature of Science, as his methods of running the guild would actually strongly discourage the kind of wildly free exploration he desires), but this version of him is lovely in this deck. Yes, i've heard that Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius is better, but for this deck, the Firemind version is lovely. One free point of damage for every card draw makes my deck extremely dangerous. I can draw a parge number of cards per turn using instants and/or sorceries, and alongside the Ping Twins, can completely wipe the board or do massive damage to finish off a player. He is a massive target for creature removal, especially counterspells, as a RRUU2 is gonna show up later than sooner, but that still protects my other cards (and flavor wise, is Nivvy stepping down to let his researchers do the job).
Avacyn's Judgment works well with the Ping Twins, but being a sorcery limits its usefulness. Maybe less than I think, because I rarely leave untapped lands at the end of my turn, but not being able to hit opponents and their creatures on their turn can be limiting sometimes.
Blast of Genius is nice, but kind of too expensive for what it's worth. Draw three, discard one to burn a player/creature is nice, but it's been a dead draw a lot of the time, and so it may be better to replace it with a larger number of smaller draw and burn spells.
Electrolyze is fantastic. I was right to put it at 4. It would be nice if I could choose to double up on draw or burn instead of going half and half, but an RU1 card that could do 1 draw 2 divided burn, 2 draw, or 4 divided burn would be insanely broken in a deck like this, so i'm more than happy to use it!
Invoke the Firemind, oh Invoke the Firemind, i'm so sorry! I wanted to like you, because flavor wise, you're everything I want! Massive draw or massive burn? What's not to like? Well, it's way too expensive. RUU2 for 2 points of burn that can't be divided, or RUU2 for 2 draw? It's versatile, but not as much as I thought. Having to decide between burn or draw, and not even being able to divide the burn up, makes this way too expensive to run as anything more than a one-off, and only for flavor.
Divination is nice, but not too many copies.Serum Visions is one of those cards that, if it wasn't as expensive (cash wise), i'd consider running 4, but only if I didn't mind feeing too cheap. Arguably, it's an expy of Ancestral Recall/Ancestral Vision, but if so, a far more balanced version. Still, even if it might not reach its full potential in this deck, one blue mana for a draw and Scry 2 is extremely good.
I kinda like the flavor of Take Inventory, but......most of the time, it's a draw one for 1U. Sometimes I get 2 draw for 1U, so that's nice. Rarely, I get a draw three for 1U, which gets close to Ancestral Recall levels of power, and the hypothetical 4 draw for 1U possibly exceeds Ancestral Recall levels of power, but the way Take Inventory works, it's not as likely as I thought to see this twice or three times a game, and since this is a card you don't want to run at any number besides 4 or 0, i'm going with 0.
Grip of the Roil is as nice as I remember it from Magic Duels, though depending on the type of deck, it may not be as useful as I recall, especially for my own deck. I usually deal with problematic creatures by burning them to death, but this can still give me momentum, or save me in a tight spot.
Izzet Charm is better than I make it look. The options for burn one creature for 2, draw 2 then discard 2, or counter unless player pays 2, all for RU? That's pretty good. Unfortunately, the way I use it, it becomes a Jack of all trades, too unfocused for use. I may just drop it all together for room.
I underestimated Izzet Boilerworks. The power of these guild bounce lands (I think I recall each Ravnican guild having one) is that they basicallt give you a free land in the hand if used right. It isn't actually mana acceleration, and getting it too early can be problematic, but for turns where you don't need that one land you get for the turn, it can be a great way to ensure that you don't run out of lands by letting you replace one of your tapped lands. I'm gonna try replacing one Sulfur Falls with one Izzet Boilerworks, but if it becomes too much i'll undo that.
The sideboard trio:I love the flavor of Thing in the Ice Flip, but it doesn't really belong in this deck. Sure, it can easily wipe out the opponent's board, and then block most any creature they use in response, but it destroys all of my creatures, doesn't solve the issue my deck has with swarming, and against a horror based deck, this could potentially hurt me more than my opponent.
Keranos, God of Storms is fine in this deck, but not as great as I had hoped. For five mana, an enchantment (because let's be honest, my deck contains relatively few nonland permanents) that let's me either draw an extra card or get a free lightning bolt is great, but it's just a tad unreliable. I'll keep one on the sideboard for funsies, but just for funsies.
I haven't tested The Locust God yet, but looking at it, it very wel may be precisely what my deck needs to protect against its weaknesses. I have an issue with enemy players overwhelming me with numbers, because while the Ping Twins and burn spells combined can wipe a wide field of creatures, if my opponent just keeps throwing giant fields of creatures at me, they will eventually overwhelm me. Having my own mini army of 1/1 flying blockers that can attack when they are first created if so desired can be immensely useful, and a draw focused deck can do a lot with this. The only issue is that to run it effectively, I must run it at 3 like Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. I get the feeling that in the end, i'll prefer to just run 4 Nivvies, and will delegate The Locust God to the sideboard for funsies, but we'll have to see how it goes.
Cards i'm considering:
Curiosity is a card I didn't initially care for much, but then i remembered what I had realized about it about a year ago: it doesn't specify combat damage. Not only does this make it go well with cards like Thermo-Alchemist, but gives me access to a dangerously powerful loop with Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind. Whenever I draw a card (including during the draw phase of a turn), Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind deals one damage to a target creature or player. If I have Curiosity equipped to it, and I deal that one damage to a player, I have the option to draw a card.....which allows Nivvy-Mizzy to deal another 1 damage. Loop until desired (probably when the opponent's life total is a pile of ashes). Not useful enough to run too many copies of it, but i'll start with 2 and go from there.
Twin Bolt is Avacyn's Judgment, but an instant and without the madness effect. The madness effect is nice, but i'm not running a madness deck, so for now i'm gonna switch out for Twin Bolt and see if that makes any difference.
Cathartic Reunion has adorable and lovely flavor, and gives me at least a little red draw, which is cheaper and gets me more cards than blue, at the cost of more risk.
Fevered Visions is kinda nice, but has issues with not being an instant/sorcery and could help my opponent a fair bit as well.
Frantic Search has powerful uses, as it lets me draw and then continue my turn with the new cards, but does require a sacrifice of cards, so let's play it carefully for now.
Hieroglyphic Illumination has potential, as I can either save it or cycle it, giving it versatility.
See Beyond may be a good way to get draw power without making my deck especially weak to milling.
Thought Scour is nice and cheap, and messes with the opponent, but might end up taking up too much space in my deck.
Thoughtflare might be a good choice for my deck. A little expensive, but not only does it allow me to pick n+1 out of n+3 (where n is my initial hand size before playing Thoughtflare, but drawing 4 while Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind is out on the field can be dish out 4 divisibile points of damage. Plus, it oozes the flavor i'm looking for: sudden bursts of inspiration!
Tormenting Voice may be another good source of red draw.
I stumbled upon Treasure Cruise in a deck I playtested my deck against, and it's easy to underestimate. I think it would cause problems with Cryptic Serpent and Enigma Drake, so for now i'll forego it.
Finally, Compulsive Research not only fits flavor wise (the compulsive instinct of curiosity), but has a leve of versatility due to your choice of discarding one land or two nonlands.
I'm going to use what I wrote here to make my second draft and test the waters, and then go from there!
9 months ago
I played him for a while, was fun but everyone started targeting me early after they figured out how it can cheat big things into play early. Trying to protect him with counter spells wasn't easy either as you essentially have to skip your turn as four mana for the ability, more to cast a spell, then holding mana up for counter magic is very slow going. Difficult to make it work, need enough pieces to consistently hit something off his ability (and for it to be relevant) while also having the spells & land to fuel/protect the whole thing.
At the very least i'd advise adding Darksteel Plate for protection and perhaps Propaganda. Scroll Rack as this lets you put artifacts from hand on top of the library to then cheat in off muzzio, Dream Cache and Jace, the Mind Sculptor if you require more brainstorm effects. Illusionist's Bracers and Rings of Brighthearth will help get more value out of him.
It's a fun deck to play but honestly wouldn't rely on it as your sole commander deck as you'll soon find yourself out of the game early. Personally i keep as a deck to brake out occasionally then switch up when people get wise to what i'm doing.
10 months ago
Flameshadow Conjuring, Strionic Resonator, Panharmonicon, Temur Sabertooth, Acidic Slime, Mulldrifter, Farhaven Elf, Wood Elves, Brainstorm, Dream Cache, idk.. just throwing out some good cheap staples with intet
11 months ago
I own more than 200 Totally Lost some foil some not, but I don't actually play the card, unfortunately.
Tidewater Minion is my favorite sleeper combo piece in EDH, any blue EDH deck I've owned, I've basically jammed one in there because of how many ways it can enable combos or just good synergies.
Same goes for Dream Cache as it's amazing to just dig, keep information, and set up combos like Miracles or Cascade
And I LOVE how many things Torpor Orb just critically stops
I have a TON of other 'pet cards' but they usually aren't good like Crackleburr most likely just my favorite card in the game for everything about it, just wish it was better.
1 year ago
Thanks! Any suggestion for which Draw-2 I should use?This is the list of what I'm considering:
- Murmurs from Beyond: Both and instant and an Arcane is pretty appealing, but it's useless while digging and gives my opponent both even more knowledge of my hand, and the ability to prevent the most problematic cards from entering it.
- Compulsive Research: Also lets me see 3 cards, and the deck runs 22 lands which might be enough? It's a sorcery though.
- Consult the Necrosages: I like this one a lot less, but the ability to double as a Mind Rot is interesting.
- Dream Cache: not strictly a draw two, but it does have a Brainstorm-like effect with the added bonus of tucking away excess lands, which is good, because I don't think my manabase can support actual Brainstorm.
- Perilous Research: Instant speed draw two for two is really solid, and I generally should have tokens lying around to sacrifice.
- Take Inventory: My deck draws enough to find at least 2 copies every game, so maybe this is good enough?
1 year ago
Squirrel_of_War thanks :) yeah I play with Sultai Charm occasionally in the deck and the draw two,discard sometimes becomes relevant. :) also I have considered the Thirst for Knowledge. I just like the top of the deck fixing Dream Cache allows. It's not a card that's a staple to the deck. Just one I can put in and out when I just want to try new things so I don't get bored lol