Cinderhaze Wretch

Legality

Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Shadowmoor (SHM) Common

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Cinderhaze Wretch

Creature — Elemental Shaman

Tap: Target player discards a card. Play this ability only during your turn.

Put a -1/-1 counter on Cinderhaze Wretch: Untap Cinderhaze Wretch.

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Cinderhaze Wretch Discussion

Vinifera7 on Halloween

2 weeks ago

Cinderhaze Wretch + Carnifex Demon is a juicy synergy with Mairsil. You should consider using Cauldron of Souls as well.

Legendxp on Micky Mouse Club

3 months ago

if you're looking for creatures that won't ever die while Mikaeus is out, here is a list.

Spincrusher

Chainbreaker

Wingrattle Scarecrow

Lingering Tormentor

Tatterkite

Plague Belcher

Soulstinger

Baleful Ammit

Puppeteer Clique

Cinderhaze Wretch

Carnifex Demon

Crystalline Crawler (This card can also give you infinite mana)

Now you just need sac outlets.

Also, Black Market for mana and Noosegraf Mob might be helpful. (When the mob runs out out of counters it will come back with undying)

Teufell on Nope! I'm the Bad Guy

4 months ago

I have all butCinderhaze Wretch and Necrotic Ooze

Octrate on Nope! I'm the Bad Guy

4 months ago

Teufell: Fortunately, most of the cards I'm using for Necrotic Ooze combos are relatively inexpensive, most are under two dollars. Cinderhaze Wretch, Channeler Initiate, Grim Poppet... They're all pretty budget friendly. The only exceptions are Necrotic Ooze itself, which is about $4, and Devoted Druid which is sadly about $12.

Octrate on Nope! I'm the Bad Guy

4 months ago

Hey Daedalus19876: I'll be sure to check it out your list, but I would prefer feedback on my own list rather than just a link. Thank you.

Teufell: The Necrotic Ooze package could probably do with some explanation. The key for those combos is that the other cards listed in the combo, ie Cinderhaze Wretch and Grim Poppet must be in the graveyard. While they are in the graveyard, Necrotic Ooze has all of their activated abilities. In this example, Cinderhaze Wretch's ability to tap to discard and untap ability will now be accessible by Necrotic Ooze, as well as Grim Poppet's ability to remove -1/-1 counters. Thus, you can continue to tap and untap the ooze without penalty.

cityflower on

5 months ago

Hey man! Glad you read it. Your justifications seem fine. I still feel that the planewalkers are fairly dead - at least switch your garruk for the good one (Garruk Wildspeaker.

Cinderhaze Wretch seems fine for the slot. I have a lot more experience with Sadistic Hypnotist and at first glance this deck looks like it would benefit from it more, but hey - you've played the deck so you'd clearly know firsthand which of the two fits better in the slot.

As for Kamahl, Fist of Krosa, I really don't love the mana inefficiency - a conditional 7 mana to kill one land doesn't really get me going. That said, if you're in a competitive meta where you really need to snipe lands frequently, I'm sure he's fine.

If you don't find yourself needing to snipe lands all too frequently I think a more fitting answer for his slot would be a simple Sylvan Scrying. It can tutor out a Strip Mine in a pinch - letting you snipe something for 2 mana and a land drop. That said, it can also do a lot of other things. It can set you ahead by fetching a Cabal Coffers or your Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. It can fetch your Bojuka Bog if you need to bog the karador player. A bit more all purpose.

Your points about land are very valid. I read competitive in the deck title and figured it was worth mentioning. Mostly those are for online.

Hoping you find these helpful. And at the end of the day, this is just my eye. I haven't played the deck so I really don't know how it feels haha. I'm actually just looking for input myself.

akumawerewolf on

5 months ago

cityflower, thanks a lot for the suggestions!

The Garruk Relentless  Flip and Ob Nixilis Reignited were originally in for Garruk's tutor ability and Ob Nixilis's help in recovering a bit, but they have seemed underwhelming.

As for Cinderhaze Wretch, he can do a lot of the same things Devoted Druid does in this deck and easily go infinite.

Kamahl, Fist of Krosa snipes lands, which is great at getting rid of things like Academy Ruins or just color-screwing an opponent, or for something to actually do with the infinite mana this deck can generate for infinite damage.

I've loved Ulvenwald Tracker, but maybe it isn't essential, and that Nullmage Shepherd looks awesome.

I'd also love to have a Bayou or a Gaea's Cradle, but those are really expensive, which is why some of my land base is mediocre.

I do like a lot of the suggestions though and will definitely go for putting some of them in, though would love to hear your opinions on why I justify some of these cards.

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