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| Casual | Legal |
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| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
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Bone Miser
Creature — Zombie Wizard
Whenever you discard a creature card, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Whenever you discard a land card, gain .
Whenever you discard a noncreature, nonland card, draw a card.
Rhadamanthus on How does Bone Miser work …
5 months ago
The game will start another cleanup step and you will have to discard again. This will keep going until the game doesn't need to start any additional cleanups.
If something happens during cleanup that causes abilities to trigger or state-based-actions to be checked, the game will go through the process of dealing with them and will start another cleanup after the current one is over.
514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:
514.3a At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger “at the beginning of the next cleanup step”). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.
Decks built around The Gitrog Monster like to take advantage of this rules interaction. Bone Miser offers a similar opportunity.
wallisface on How does Bone Miser work …
5 months ago
When you’re in the cleanup step you only discard down to 7 cards once. This will cause abilities to be put on the stack such as Bone Miser, which will resolve once you’ve finished discarding down to 7. There won’t be additional cleanups after this in the turn, so even though Bone Miser might draw you back up to 8-or-more cards when its ability resolves, you’ve already finished the forced-discard, and don’t do it again that turn.
Be_Jamin on How does Bone Miser work …
5 months ago
Bone Miser is on the battlefield and my turn goes to the discard step where I have 8 cards in hand. I discard a noncreature nonland card which triggers Bone Miser's third ability causing me to draw another card. That then brings me to 8 cards in hand again. Does the discard step happen again since I have more than 7 cards in my hand or does it trigger the one time and the turn goes to the next player with my hand having 8 cards in it? If the discard step happens again can I repeatedly discard a noncreature nonland card triggering the third ability-drawing a card?
king-saproling on
Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor - Gix's Caress (v0.1)
10 months ago
You might like these: Seizan, Perverter of Truth, Fate Unraveler, Curse of Fool's Wisdom, Prickly Boggart, Battlefly Swarm, Eyetwitch, Pilfering Imp, Stirge, Blight Keeper, Black Market, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, Feast of Sanity, Bone Miser, Archfiend of Ifnir
Darsul on
Thought and Talon
10 months ago
Hello,
If your looking for input and/or Suggestions you need to help us out and give and ideal what your looking for. Raffine, Scheming Seer is a great open ended commander that it's hard to help out w/out know the direction you aiming for. That said, what I found/find out with my deck and no matter how you play him you want to be attacking every turn, this tends to leave you open on the back swing so War Tax cards like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison or flip side play things like Heliod, God of the Sun and Odric, Lunarch Marshal (+ Vigilance toon out). Long story short your deck looks weak to the crack back.
Another thing I find is the Wonder is < Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
. Most of your team is sporting fly as is.
As for real suggestions how do you want to take him? +1/+1 you could play cards like Tenured Inkcaster or Oona's Blackguard
Reanimator Unburial Rites or Vohar, Vodalian Desecrator
Discard Bone Miser or Faith of the Devoted
wheel Queza, Augur of Agonies or Feast of Sanity
anyway, cheers and GL
Sheld on
The Chaos Legion
1 year ago
Hi @zepample,
I play in a very casual meta, so I can afford to play dumb expensive flavorful cards. :)
Here are some modifications you can try to make the deck stronger if your meta is a bit more serious:
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Take out some expensive and "timmy" cards. Suggestions: Emrakul, Myojin, Wondrous Crucible, Ovika, Gigantoplasm, Wildfire Devils. While being fun and flavorful, these are in my opinion not great cards in a more competitive setting.
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Add more protection for Abaddon and more ways to enable his ability easily. Suggestions: Swiftfoot Boots, Bolt Bend, Logic Knot, Protection Racket, Loyal Subordinate, Court of Ambition. Abaddon is often a remove-on-sight commander so more protection could be necessary and relying on combat damage to enable him could be problematic in a more competitive setting.
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Add more triggers from draws/discards. Suggestions: Tergrid Flip, Megrim, Liliana's Caress, Bone Miser. These cards combined with wheels can provide huge tempo swings making the deck much more spiky.
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You might need more/better control cards and finishers. My suggestion for another finisher would be Torment of Hailfire.
Hope some of this helps to adjust the deck for your meta. :)
Kret on
Blackness EDH
1 year ago
Hello from a covert discard enjoyer. My suggestion is that the discard itself won't win you the game and If I were you I'd cut some discard spells that target only a single player like Duress or Invoke Despair because they are quite inefficient in a 4 player game as well as some discard spells that only discard one card like Burglar Rat because again they are quite inefficient. Bad Deal isn't what you want to be doing for 6 mana. Instead, I'd add Painful Quandary because it has a static effect and in a low resource environment your opponents will have to start paying 5 life to do anything and that feels really miserable. Discard goes well with reanimation, I'd add all 3 versions of Animate Dead -> Dance of the Dead and Necromancy. Unfortunately discard players often get focused by the table so I like to add something like Gray Merchant of Asphodel to keep life total high. Consider also Bone Miser, Soul Shatter, Sign in Blood, Rankle, Master of Pranks, Bottomless Pit, all versions of Plaguecrafter, Asylum Visitor and Containment Construct. In general I'd prioritise static discard effects (like discard one card every upkeep etc) over single dicard effects.
SufferFromEDHD on
Nekusar
1 year ago
Burning Inquiry over Brainstorm.
Baleful Mastery over All is Dust
Kederekt Parasite over Magus of the Jar
Bone Miser over Sangromancer.
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