|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Masters 25 (A25)||None|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Common|
|Urza's Saga (USG)||Common|
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Creature — Crab
(Blue): Untap Horseshoe Crab.
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Horseshoe Crab Discussion
2 months ago
I apologize for the long post below: It is not modified for standard play. Please disregard if you are playing standard only.
The best deck to counter aura hexproof (what your friend has) is generally black/green sacrifice decks. See: Grave Pact, Butcher of Malakir, , Chainer's Edict <- (Pricy), Spore Frog, or Fleshbag Marauder. Or -1/-1 effects aka Archfiend of Ifnir, combined with enablers like Lotleth Troll or Putrid Imp.
That, or a deck that has a lot of sweeper spells - Cyclonic Rift (pricy), Terminus, Living Death. Think of sweeper spells as cards that immediately level the playing field. If you're losing, just play a sweep. Instant board reset and everybody is on even playing grounds. Cheaper Alternatives: Hallowed Burial, Devastation Tide, Coastal Breach, Evacuation; just make sure it only targets creatures (not like Wash Out) because you don't want the auras returning to hand. You want to get rid of the creatures and have the auras fall off.
I don't quite agree with Atrox's approach because I know most hexproof decks run Umbra auras (Hyena Umbra), and will easily have more than 3 toughness.
Personally, TO COMPLETELY REDESIGN YOUR DECK, I would use no creatures and only spells or maybe with creatures with nice ETB (enter the battlefield) effects (Archaeomancer. This way, the sweepers don't affect you very much and will only remove your opponents' creatures. Red will be reserved for dealing damage, and blue will be reserved solely for sweeper spells & drawing cards.
Current problems with your deck:
1) It's slow. You're going to have to have multiple pingers which all take about 3 turns+ summoning sickness to start becoming active. Izzet decks are supposed to be fast & maintain control from the beginning of the game.
2) The synergy is a little too far apart - you want to have creatures pinging damage, you want to counter spells, you want creatures to get buff; there's only so much you can do with 7 cards in your hand.
3) No card draw - you'll run out of steam very very fast. Blue excels in card draw - you should make use of it!
Try to find out what your style is, then start asking for tips to point you in the right direction.
Let me know if you have questions :) (I play an aura deck)
2 months ago
Thanks for your suggestions! I took out single untap effect just because I think they are only useful on x/x creatures like Consuming Aberration, because otherwise, they just allow for "a little bit more milling". Thus I shifted a bit towards combat hate.
I'm not convinced about Horseshoe Crab, since is only useful if equipped, though I'll definitely consider re-adding Freed from the Real and maybe introducing Slagwurm Armor. I just need to see what to cut.
Stay frosty too!
2 months ago
looks great, dude! Slagwurm Armor is a major boost to your defensive and milling capabilities. Freed from the Real is super versatile, and Horseshoe Crab is awesome for extra milling - especially with the armor attatched.
4 months ago
Did you concider playing Horseshoe Crab it suits your strategy very well!
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8 months ago
8 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions.
Theme is pretty important, budget is low, I wouldn't want to spend more than a couple dollars on a single card. Combos are good, just not competitive "win before T5 w/ 2 cards" combos. Weak but clever or flavorful combos are fine.
Tidal Flats looks GREAT. Keeps other players off my back, totally fits the theme, this is definitely going in. Sorta like a cheaper themier shittier Conspiracy. Exactly the kind of card I'm looking for.
Thing from the Deep and Sunken City are definitely getting the boot. I was thinking Sunken City might be a good way to give my camarid/kelp/starfish tokens some bite, but something like Polymorphous Rush would be a lot more fun...
I figure I could at least sac Polar Kraken and Leviathan to Homarid Spawning Bed when the upkeep becomes too much, but some of these fatties are basically just in there for flavor/because I like them, their inclusion is hard to defend on merit. Plus, it's always extra satisfying when you win with some really horrible creature.
The combo w/ Tolarian Serpent is also pretty gimmicky, not sure if there's a any mono blue graveyard play that would make it worth it. I've got a Reminisce, from Onslaught, with water in the art :) Would this still be useful if I pulled the self-mill stuff, though?
Homarid Shaman is there 100% for the satisfaction of hosing beefy mono green decks with a lobster holding a magic wand. BLEATS OF DESPAIR!
I haven't gotten much mileage out of High Tide, I just added Great Whale which might help, but I expect you're right and this should be cut. Could repeat it w/ an Isochron Scepter but there's so few instants and sorceries it would be a dead card most of the time. Not much good ramp in blue for my fatties :(