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4, T, Sacrifice Encroaching Wastes: Destroy target nonbasic land.
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Encroaching Wastes Discussion
4 months ago
Removed in the latest update:
- Thragtusk. If our opponent can solve the 5/3 tokens, they can also probably answer this.
- Tectonic Edge and Encroaching Wastes. Poor land destruction cards. By the time they're relevant, the opponent has usually already executed a significant part of their game plan, which means we need answers not mana disruption.
- Mouth of Ronom. Too costly an answer.
- Scrying Sheets. Too narrow and incremental, plus the colorless mana hurts. Will probably rethink this if the deck gets Dark Depths.
- Garruk Wildspeaker. I find him underwhelming in the times that I have cast him.
- Ugin, the Spirit Dragon. Too high a mana cost, although his abilities really do complement the weakness of the deck. The sacrifice lands plan do not really mesh well with the 8 mana.
- Skullclamp. Not sure about this chop, just trying it without. My experience has been, if I'm digging for answers with Skullclamp by killing my X/1's, I may find the answer but not have enough mana anyway.
- Wurmcoil Engine. Doesn't really synergize with the rest of the deck.
Added since last update:- Regal Behemoth and Throne of the High City. Trying out the monarch mechanic to provide some card advantage.- Garruk, Primal Hunter. Trying out as replacement for Garruk Wildspeaker.- Fastbond. Because it should have been here in the first place.- Field of Ruin. A fixed Ghost Quarter.- Ramunap Excavator. Crucible of Worlds with legs.- Vizier of the Menagerie. Green's form of card advantage seem to be to play from the top of the library. This is a Garruk's Horde with lower mana cost.
7 months ago
Haha thanks for the suggestions usaDiabetic, I'll probably put it in for Encroaching Wastes when I get it. As for Ghost Town, I don't often miss a land-drop with my current land count but it's definitely worth thinking about
8 months ago
Ambush Viper is a cool snake that I like. Flashing him in is always fun.
8 months ago
Crucible of Worlds is in now way budget, but it's amazing. THere's a new card in hour of Devastation that's a creature and green but does the same thing :P
Some land suggestions, some better than others:Blighted WoodlandWintermoon MesaCentaur GardenCradle of the AccursedDust BowlEncroaching WastesFoundry of the ConsulsGargoyle CastleGhost QuarterGrasping DunesHaunted FengrafHavenwood BattlegroundHickory Woodlot Petrified Field Spawning Bed Tectonic Edge Terminal MoraineThrone of the High CityTimberland RuinsWarped LandscapeDryad Arbor
Looks like a great deck :D
8 months ago
Themes Blue/White Good Stuff UWgud Stax Your things cost less, theirs cost more. ETB Mill Pillowfort
Cards to cut or just don't do enough Slow Motion, Stormscape Familiar, Select for Inspection (too Specific), Etherium Sculptor (Not justifiable), Mindshrieker, Burnished Hart (Look, we all love this stupid Elk, but he sits at a slot where you need to have around that much mana up for counter spells. You really only want to be spending that type of mana to reduce your costs or increase opponents costs or stop them from attacking you. Else, counterspells. Two mana ramp is what you are looking for, ideally, not six spread over two turns), Jace's Archivist(I like this card a lot, and I think it's great with things like Thousand-Year Elixir, but realistically you want to be sculpting the perfect control hand all game rather than tossing it away.), Rhystic Study(Great card, but not $8 great. Mostly priced based on popularity. Budget choice for you, you don't need it). Temple Bell (Fun card, but too beneficial for your opponents. Don't spend mana to speed other's race, that's the opposite goal of the deck.), Cataclysm (I don't see why you have this other than as a combo with As Foretold.), Entrapment Maneuver, Hindering Touch, Leave in the Dust, Sleep(Only beneficial against creature decks), Psychic Spiral(You have to devote yourself to wheel for this card to work well, and wheel arguably doesn't help your deck.), Sunder(This combos only with As Foretold), Isperia, Supreme Judge (Costs six, his only creature decks, they don't have to attack you, there is better card draw.), Sphinx of Magosi, Silent Sentinel (Requires attack and arguably not enough enchantments).
You have a pretty decent Stax and 'Don't touch me there' package going on here, but not a whole lot of direction other than that. Some mill, some land destruction, but no real win-cons. If you want to have a serious mill win con, you can take out a little of your protection package and focus it on ETB effects and pair with a card like Altar of the Brood. Is that enough justification? I don't know, but ETB effects can be very strong and already seem like a small sub-theme. You would have to make more serious cuts for it. You definitely need to upgrade your mill-win con to be more flexible if you intend on winning that way. Sitting down at the average CMDR table of at least sum(4) means that you have hundreds of cards to whittle away. Some suggestions:Aforementioned Altar of the Brood, only for considerationSands of Delirium, Memory Erosion, Jace's Erasure, Sphinx's Tutelage, Increasing Confusion, Hinder/Spell Crumple + Tunnel Vision is a particular jank combo favorite of mine. Really you want stuff that hits early and doesn't require any further effort so you can pillowfort yourself, or are huge sinks for the late game push.
If you are looking to remove some pillowfort and upgrade your stax package, check out Brago, King Eternal, Paradox Engine, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Torpor Orb, Smokestack, Trinisphere, Thorn of Amethyst, Meekstone, Clock of Omens (This is especially useful), Dovin Baan, Inspiring Statuary.
Also, you should take out all land destruction since you don't have a real way to take advantage of it. Even with a couple of your reductions, the green player/ Mizzix player will get on board faster and annihilate you out of spite.
Also, the deck only has mill as its win-con thus far, which is tenuous at best even in the most refined EDH decks. I suggest you put some of the not-so-flashy-feels-bad-win-cons in this deck such as Approach of the Second Sun, Azor's Elocutors, Laboratory Maniac, etc.
Also, after above edits, you only have three board clears by my count. Even if I'm off, you want around 7-10 for a deck of this style that covers a multitude of fronts. Most board-wipes are just creature based, but you should include ones like Akroma's Vengeance, Consulate Crackdown, Planar Cleansing, Nevinyrral's Disk. Things that can be instant speed are also great like Rout and Evacuation.
Your land base needs a pretty big update as well. You should really only be running 10 or less of each basic for a dual colored deck, though not as important for three and up decks. But, you have quite a few double-symbol costs that your cost reduction can't affect.Fixing lands Coastal Tower, Meandering River, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Azorius Guildgate, Sejiri Refuge, Tranquil Cove, Prairie Stream, Exotic Orchard.
Hope this helps! :)
10 months ago
Low impact cards:
Abzan Advantage Giving an opponent the choice is always bad
Ainok Guide 2 Mana does nothing
Shields of Velis Vel If you play more dragons then you don't have to turn everything into dragons
Dromoka Captain 3 Mana for a 1/1 that doesn't help the board
Joraga Auxiliary Bad mana sink is bad
Longshot Squad Should have enough fliers
Sol Ring Should have put a ring on it
Talisman of Unity Painland knockoff
Selesnya Signet Getting the fix
Mind Stone Draw never hurt anyone(except black)
Hedron Archive Go bigger
Everflowing Chalice Sometimes big isn't enough
Fellwar Stone Someone should have what you need
Dromoka Monument At least it can dragon
Llanowar Elves The Classic
Fyndhorn Elves The Sequel
Elvish Mystic The Remake
Avacyn's Pilgrim The easy fix
Rishkar, Peema Renegade Everything is a mana dork
Gyre Sage Lots of mana
Hardened Scales Add ASAP
Sunscorch Regent Value town counters
Destructor Dragon Bad Acidic Slime
Eternal Dragon Good early and late game
Jugan, the Rising Star More counters
Steel Hellkite Removal on a stick
Gavony Township Pump the team
Frontier Siege Free mana or fights
Encroaching Wastes Bad wasteland is better than no wasteland
Mosswort Bridge Building bridges
Command Tower The EDH land
Sea Gate Wreckage Comeback king
Llanowar Reborn Some value
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood Lots of value
11 months ago
I had 5 Relentless Rats and a pack rat out on the table. Opponent had about 5 creatures to block with. However, I cast Marrow-Gnawer before I swung. My rats now had fear, and my opponent had nothing that could block them. Super lucky win!
1 year ago
Learn from the Past Kind of really narrow but devastating to certain decks/matchups we may see. Also if we arent against a big graveyard based threat, it in essence has built in 1U Cycling since it cantrips. Except that counts as a cast and grows the +1/+1s. It answers something that is powerful when abused and it's ENTIRELEY worthless outside those matchups. Grim Affliction I'd argue this is an autoinclude for sure. For obvious reasons I think. Trail of Evidence not sure if this would end up worthwhile or just choke a card slot but looked interesting. Viral Drake Gives us some air blocker meat and a way for you to dump mana at their end step if you have some left and help us grow. Howling Mine was also on my list. We want spells cast we just want to them mitigate them so we are going to need the fuel/card draw to make sure we have the RIGHT answers. Baleful Strix is pure value in most any deck. Cantrips and 1 time deadly air defense. Ghost Quarter, Encroaching Wastes, Strip Mine, Tectonic Edge, Wasteland - a couple to take care of possible show stoppers like Maze of Ith against us would be nice. Not to mention all the other utility lands people run we might want gone. I have too many slots dedicated to fixing so i cant run many of these colorless only sources. (though I did still slot a Wasteland). There's a ton of land destruction at sorcery in black, but i dont want to clog too many slots with something other than removal or it's going to get inconsistent fast. Befoul is probably on point for the versatility of it. I dream of Helldozer lmao but probably not...