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Creature — Human Soldier
When Elite Scaleguard enters the battlefield, bolster 2. (Choose a creature with the least toughness among creature you control and put two +1/+1 counters on it.)
Whenever a creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it attacks, tap target creature defending player controls.
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Elite Scaleguard Discussion
1 week ago
Okay, I would suggest you try to make the deck as consistent as possible, while also having a lot of interaction. Given your manabase being split between four colors, effects such as Counterspell are a bit hard to cast. Countermagic though should be run. Arcane Denial is a card I recommend, as it generally doesn't draw too much hate, doesn't cost double , and replaces itself as a card.
This is the type of logic I implore you to use when deciding the power level of cards. I assume you have the same dilemma most have when deck building of card attachment. Because of this, I will give you a list of cards I would drop in the list, for more powerful interaction, ramp, and card draw.
Here we go:
Citadel Siege - This is a +1/+1 counter deck, and this puts +1/+1 counters on your creatures, it makes sense why it is run, but you have so many effects in this nature, that this card I don't think makes the cut. This deck has a lot of creatures, and this card doesn't put a +1/+1 on up to two creatures, both of which could be proliferated later, instead it only puts two on one creature. I don't hink it is worth 5 mana.
Brave the Elements - Vigilance is a good ability, but for a 2 mana enchantment, this would have to do much more than this to be worth it in my opinion. Dropping it for more ramp allows you to be more aggressive, and get your opponents on the defensive, rather than you having to defend yourself.
Duneblast - Cool card, yes, but in this deck I don't think saving one of your creatures is worth a whopping 3 more mana and an extra color symbol than Day of Judgment or a similar effect. I personally would rather see Languish in this deck, as it can kill most creatures, while your generally are larger, or Black Sun's Zenith, which puts -1/-1 counters on your opponents' creatures you can proliferate over time.
Disdainful Stroke - Okay, this next part might get into a bit of math, but here is why Disdainful Stroke is nearly strictly worse than Arcane Denial, and it has to do with card advantage. If Disdainful Stroke was a Counterspell for just a , I would still run Arcane Denial over it. An effect like Disdainful Stroke leaves you down a card, and your opponent down a card, with two other opponents up a card. Since Arcane Denial replaces itself, and give two card to an opponent, at the cost of one, you are only down a card to one opponent, instead of two.
2-4 lands - A deck of this CMC normally needs only 35-37 lands to get all of their spells cast on time. I don't have the statistics on me right now, so trust me or not, but that has been my experience and the experience of many others.
Okay, so what should you add in? I would run more counterspells, like Delay, Mana Leak, Swan Song, or anything you want to run for versatility like Unsubstantiate or Supreme Will. Removal like Swords to Plowshares, Chain of Vapor, Beast Within, or Aura of Silence can also be useful, as well as card draw like Windfall, Brainstorm, Ponder, or Preordain. The creature base seems fine, I suggest a Sunscorch Regent because it is insanely fun, but otherwise keep it up!
Oh yeah, you wonder what to do against Inalla, Archmage Ritualist? Torpor Orb, Tocatli Honor Guard, and Hushwing Gryff shut them down efficiently, also they only hurt 6 of your cards, being Prime Speaker Zegana's draw ability, Juniper Order Ranger, Elite Scaleguard's bolster ability, Armorcraft Judge, and a couple creature's evolve ability. The reason effects such as Fertilid's enter the battlefield with two +1/+1 counter ability or similar abilities across your deck is due to them not being triggered abilities. They happen 'as' the creature enters, instead of immediately after. It is a little weird.
Against graveyard decks, consider Relic of Progenitus, Leyline of the Void, Rest in Peace, Grafdigger's Cage, and Ground Seal. They are pretty self explanatory, but run the ones you want to, all have ups and downs. For instance, though you may know that tokens disappear if they leave the battlefield, they still go to the graveyard when they die, immediately after they disappear, which is why effects like Deathgreeter trigger when 3 tokens die. This means Leyline of the Void won't stop Deathgreeter gaining life when tokens die, but Rest in Peace will. Differences like this are minor, but may make you decide between different forms of graveyard hate.
1 month ago
I will list the top ten non-land cards to drop if you want:
Vulturous Zombie - It can get large, but it isn't on its own, and it costs 5 mana, at five mana you could drop a good planeswalker or a real threat like Inexorable Tide, I mean at four mana Triumph of the Hordes kill a player or 2, and at leasts puts a bunch of -1/-1 counters on another players board. It is too slow and clunky in my own opinion.
Duneblast - Ooh how much I want to like this card, it can be a one sided (or three sided in multiplayer) board wipe, and I love those, but at 7 mana? Kindred Discovery and Necromantic Selection both feel better than that (You either choose the creature type of the one creature you want, and it is the same, or save multiple if they happen to share a creature type, or with Master Biomancer you can save a ton, slightly higher ceiling on effect, and easy to get colors for, Necromantic Selection can do the same exact thing, or do more if you can steal an opponents, downside is the creature loses it's counters, but I still like it more), and I don't think a board wipe should even be >4 mana.
Solidarity of Heroes - It can be a single activation of Vorel of the Hull Clade, or an overpriced Deepglow Skate, except it only works on +1/+1 counters, not poison, not -1/-1 counters, not loyalty counters, and even then it isn't that good.
Elite Scaleguard - I love the idea, but a "4/5" for 5 that only helps with evasion feels really boring and unimpressive, not awful, or bad, just it doesn't support this deck too much.
Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper - Definitely a cool card with interesting design, but in this list it is basically lifelinking all of your creatures on an under-powered creature for 5 mana, which is one mana less than True Conviction.
Citadel Siege - At four mana this isn't actually that bad, I kind of like the first ability, keeping in mind it is a double Thrummingbird-esque effect that is harder to remove, but only effects you creature, but what's cool is it also has the second ability that can lockdown some creatures, which works out really well. I do like choice, but neither of the choices here feel special, and so if you dropped it, it wouldn't hurt.
Abzan Falconer - This is my favorite one of these ten, simply because I like flying, and it is a much better Tuskguard Captain, but your deck deals a lot of damage without it, and I am unsure if it is necessary with your removal, and that many of your creatures have evasion of their own.
Onto some cards I'd run, which actually don't need too much explanation:
3 months ago
With Elite Scaleguard in play, do you get to tap only one creature or many creatures if you have many with counters on them when you attack?
3 months ago
I have a friend that could stand to play a little more casually actually so I get how you feel. Most/all of his decks have the OP tutors and fast mana, which makes them all feel very samey and boring to play against (though he does do very well in most games because of those cards of course).
Your own build looks solid enough though without being oppressive, and I've learned that's basically the trick to playing slightly less competitive, but not totally casual. Even if you play removal and board wipes, the more you let others play their decks, the more fun everyone gets from the game.
In trying to find space for retribution, I can only think to drop a card that seems weak like Steady Progress or Tezzeret's Gambit as single use proliferate feels 'meh' to me for a +1/+1 counters strategy when you could be resetting evolve triggers. Otherwise you'd have to treat retribution as a repeated removal spell and trade one of your versatile removal effects for it. Mer-Ek Nightblade could be considered in the same manner if you wanted to use it too. But since you're aggro Elite Scaleguard feels like a soft control effect that may be more effective than the Citadel Siege. I', not sure how much you've already tested the build out, so I'm not sure how good or bad some of the cards are.
4 months ago
Buffing up creatures? Sounds like a great game plan. Most +1/+1 counter decks use Winding Constrictor and are thus Golgari/Abzan, but I think a Selesnya deck could still be competitive. Here's a few suggestions:
-Dromoka's Command: It's a card that has multiple uses, fits the colors and the scheme, and provides enchantment removal.
-Lead by Example: An instant which can be used to buff up creatures for both surprise attacks/blocks and in response to direct damage (people will try to remove your centerpieces, so this card is handy)
-Inspiring Call: An instant that provides both protection and card draw. What's not to like?
-Citadel Siege + Durable Handicraft: Both of these enchantments provide more opportunities to put +1/+1 counters on your creatures.
-Ainok Bond-Kin + Cenn's Tactician: These creatures provide LOTS of benefit for having creatures with counters on them.
In addition, when working with +1/+1 counters (I normally use Abzan colors, but still) I like to use Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit, Dragonscale General, Elite Scaleguard, Scute Mob, and Tuskguard Captain. Honored Hierarch is also good at getting mana ramp into bigger and bigger plays.
If you want any more suggestions, or feedback, head over to my wall and leave me a comment. I'll be happy to look at this deck. Great job, definitely a +1 :)
5 months ago
8 months ago
I guess you want to use this commander? If so then Citadel Siege, Mentor of the Meek, Elite Scaleguard og Bygone Bishop are all great cheap cards for white weenie. For better ramp I would go with cards like Pearl Medallion, Marble Diamond and Commander's Sphere. Also just get ride of Painted Bluffs and Survivors' Encampment and just add Plains or Secluded Steppe and Myriad Landscape. I can also recommend using something like EDHREC when you need help to find cards for your deck. Hope you find this usefull.
8 months ago
Forgotten Ancient. Scute Mob. Armorcraft Judge. Avatar of the Resolute. Elite Scaleguard. Heroes' Bane. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord. Kalonian Hydra. Karlov of the Ghost Council. Oran-Rief Hydra. Primordial Hydra. Reyhan, Last of the Abzan. Skullbriar, the Walking Grave. Sunscorch Regent. Undergrowth Champion. Vigor. Reap What Is Sown. Hardened Scales.
Just a few suggestions for your +1/+1 game.