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Creature — Elf Archer
Reach (This creature can block creatures with flying.)
Deathtouch (Whenever this creature deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature.)
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Thornweald Archer Discussion
1 month ago
How do you like the deck so far? The Rancor + deathtouch interaction looks fun too; worth pointing out it in the description. Hope it plays well and you have fun with it!
More random thoughts - any cool first strike granters? Another color suggestion might be red for both first strike and natural pingers to go with Nightshade Peddler. Say Thornscape Apprentice for first strike and the almighty Sparksmith for pinging.
1 month ago
first wave of cuts: Unbridled Growth does literally nothing in mono-green, Prophetic Prism same reason, Karametra's Favor don't need. also anything that is giving you energy you dont need it. unless you have some pay off for energy there is no point in running those
things to add (this is a long list so obviously just pick things up as you can. also not all of this will fit in but this is all good stuff):Arbor Elf, Allosaurus Rider, Birchlore Rangers, Bow of Nylea, Cultivate, Devoted Druid, Drove of Elves, Druid of the Cowl, Eladamri, Lord of Leaves, Elvish Archdruid, Elvish Champion, Elvish Harbinger, Elvish Mystic, Elvish Promenade, Elvish Vanguard, Everglove Courier, Explosive Vegetation, Ezuri, Renegade Leader, Fyndhorn Elder, Gaea's Herald, Gladehart Cavalry, Glissa Sunseeker, Greatbow Doyen, Green Sun's Zenith, Greenweaver Druid, Gyre Sage, Heritage Druid, Harmonize, Hunting Triad, Immaculate Magistrate, Imperious Perfect, Joraga Treespeaker, Joraga Warcaller, Llanowar Elves, Llanowar Mentor, Lys Alana Bowmaster, Lys Alana Huntmaster, Masked Admirers, Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip, Nissa's Pilgrimage, Norwood Priestess, Nullmage Shepherd, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Priest of Titania, Realm Seekers, Reclamation Sage, Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary, Tajuru Preserver, Talara's Battalion, terrastodon, Thornweald Archer, Titania's Chosen, Viridian Shaman, Wellwisher, Wildslayer Elves, Winnower Patrol, Wirewood Elf, Wren's Run Packmaster, Yeva, Nature's Herald
(takes giant breath)
yeah.. its a lot of stuff. I got a little carried away.. also this is not a budgeted list of suggestions. you will need some of the $3-10 cards to make elves a serious threat.
2 months ago
it can help you find an elf you're looking for.
this is nice, +1 just because its an elf tribal, you might want to grab an additional copy of Elvish Archdruid.
instead of glissa, if you just need a deathtouch, then Thornweald Archer.
where is the black removal lol your black is like only shaman of the pack
by your definition of nissa vastwood seer being too slow, i don't see how nissa revane makes it into the deck. The life gaining is exactly the same as dwynen, and 4 mana for a random 2/3 elf when you could've just had another dwynen isn't that good.
if you want, you can take a look at my mono green elf tribal, sELFish Nissa.
admizell i have 3 copies of nissa, vastwood seer, they usually become forest tutors instead of flipping, more of a sideboard card if i need something that gives me lands instead of tapping for mana (mana dorks can just get bolted, pushed, pathed, dead some other way,) so a reliable land (unless countered) is nice (elf tribal is low on land).
2 months ago
Let's say I have a Thornweald Archer equipped with a Viridian Longbow. I tap the Archer to deal 1 damage to a creature, which kills that creature. Now, if I were able to then untap the Archer and attack with it...would it now be a 1/1 or still a 2/1 until end of turn?
3 months ago
This is really nice, maybe put in Thornweald Archer, deathtouch and reach is nice. Also, if your Yisan abilities let him survive long enough, you could go up to 9, which has stuff like Void Winnower, Artisan of Kozilek, Colossus of Sardia, etc. oh, also for 8, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger is nice. and for 10 cmc, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, for 11, Darksteel Colossus, for 12, Blightsteel Colossus, for 13, Emrakul, the Promised End, for 14, i have no idea lol, for 15, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and lastly, for 16, Draco. I would'nt recommend actually going up to 16, maybe stop at 10 ish.
3 months ago
oh yeah and Thornweald Archer is a nice deathtouch reach elf.
3 months ago
This comment is based on the differences between my deck:Thulsa's Doom Quiver and this one.
Wow! I really appreciate the thought that must have gone into this. I'm anxious to hear more of your thoughts. Here are mine...
The more I think about it I agree that Shield of the Oversoul is the better card. While it is not transferable to other creatures and vulnerable to destruction itself, it does protect against Shrivel and from back-to-back creature destruction in ways that Broken Fall can't.
Both decks are based off of getting a certain amount of creatures in proportion to a certain amount of effects. In playtesting I often found myself with duplicates of some cards that I couldn't use effectively. For example one creature but two Neurok Stealthsuits. Being able to cycle cards in hand as well as some added card advantage I think offsets the cheaper casting cost and I like Compulsive Research better. For now...
While both one-drops, the first turn Sedge Scorpion followed by a Psionic Gift on turn two, is my deck's most formidable one-two punch. And since I feel the late game is already in this type of deck's favor, speed is more important than late game heft. So I like Sedge Scorpion better, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on why you think the Durkwood Baloth is the better choice here because I'm having difficulty seeing the advantage.
I like the addition of counterspells, but I feel like the deck needs lots of deathtouch creatures to function. There will be significant creature hate. My intent is not just to use the deathtouch creatures for shooting other creatures but also for attacking and for creature removal even if it's 1:1. That said, I'd like to playtest this variant a bit more...
4 months ago
Peak Eruption isnt great here, not everyone is running mountains. If budget isnt a concern, consider Goblin Guide and Atarka's Command. Thornweald Archer could also maybe be replaced with more pump spells, such as Mutagenic Growth. also if budget isnt a concern think about fetchlands such as Wooded Foothills, this allows for more graveyard fuel for things such as Become Immense. for a starting budget deck this isnt bad though