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Ambush Viper Discussion
2 months ago
spiral_te thanks for comments/suggestions!
I agree for point 1-7.
The original reason I put in Expedition Map is that I based the deck around the 6 flash-enablers. Theres no way to tutor for Vedalken Orrery and Leyline of Anticipation , and only Momir to tutor for Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir and Yeva, Nature's Herald . So the Map is my efficient way to tutor out Alchemist's Refuge and Winding Canyons . I would shift over to a Ulvenwald Hydra for this purpose but I do not have one.
I agree for the cuts to Kiora's follower, but not for Gyre engineer. Both were meant to be manadorks and I was guessing I need to ramp fast to be able to cast things on multiple turns. Genesis hydra was just thematic of the 'cheating creatures out'.
For Prowling Serpopard/Gaea's Herald, it's not really needed in my playgroup, since I'm the one that usually plays counterspells most of the time.
I'm looking to slot in Kederekt Leviathan for a 'cyclonic rift' effect that can be used twice due to unearth. But my considerations are that I'll need to build up my board again, so this would probably be used more when I'm behind. So i've opted to put in Profaner of the Dead and Scourge of Fleets as my AOE boardclear instead. What are your thoughts on adding the Leviathan?
Still need to cut 5 more :(
2 months ago
This is a cool deck. All the cards are keepable, but these are the cuts I would make. Tried to cut something from each category rather than eliminate one.
- Siege Behemoth - Slower than your other evasion granters, 7 mana, and practically only works once.
- Essence Warden - A little life can help with the long game in some cases, but it doesn't synergize with anything else in your deck and is a low impact cut.
- Mirror Image - the most limited of the clone effects.
- Expedition Map - You have good targets, but no GREAT targets which lessens its value (cavern of souls type nonsense).
- Ambush Viper - I love me a green doom blade, but is more narrow than coatl.
- Loaming Shaman - might save you from decking yourself if labman dies, but...eh. A resolved surge will win you the game if nobody wipes anyway
- Void Grafter - 3 CMC and not reusable makes this the cut
At this point, it's a matter of personal taste what to keep because the remainder are all very good. I would try cutting Kiora's Follower , Genesis Hydra , and Gyre Engineer and seeing how the deck functioned.
Suggestions: - Tidespout Tyrant becomes a value engine/backup wincon - Prowling Serpopard or his ancestor Gaea's Herald for reasons - Veilstone Amulet turns all your spells into Mizzium Meddlers. - Cream of the Crop or other topdeck manipulation lets you set up your Rashmi triggers nicely. - Brutalizer Exarch is a bit heavy manawise but has two nice modes - Sages of the Anima easily puts you into crazytown
2 months ago
These upgrades aren't huge, cards I'd drop are the following:
Ambush Viper , Lay of the Land , Boundless Realms , Tower Defense , Mortal's Resolve , Fog , Burst of Strength , Panharmonicon , Lure , Verdant Haven , Sandwurm Convergence , Shapers' Sanctuary , Shapers' Sanctuary , Greenseeker , Kalonian Tusker , Oak Street Innkeeper , Duskdale Wurm , Elvish Aberration , Borderland Ranger , Civic Wayfinder , and Centaur's Herald .
These 21 cards don't do enough to warrant inclusion overall, and you can ask me about any specific drops, but I'd not run them. I would argue to run at least 3-5 more Forests (4 for now will be my estimate leaving 17 cards left to work with) and to run the following:
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard , End-Raze Forerunners , Karametra's Acolyte , Terastodon , Reclamation Sage , Primordial Sage , Wolfbriar Elemental , Ulvenwald Tracker , Rampaging Baloths , Regal Force , Temur Sabertooth , Fierce Empath , Harmonize , Rampant Growth , Primal Command , Lignify , and Beast Within
These should all round out the deck! Many are creatures that can be flashed in with big effect, like Yisan, the Wanderer Bard / End-Raze Forerunners / Rampaging Baloths / Regal Force , etc. or are card draw/removal to keep you in the game when an opponent 'goes off'. Often if green gets board wiped they hurt, and while Heroic Intervention helps out, Temur Sabertooth too, sometimes just rebuilding is the answer. Think of the value of in response to a Wrath of God you flash in a Regal Force , draw 7 cards, then on your next turn empty your hand of new creatures to win with!
I chose relatively cheap cards for this list, hoping you don't have to spend to much!
2 months ago
Looks fun, +1. Might even give regular edh decks a run for their money. Should test the theory ;). Now for some suggestions: Corpse Cur is an infector with a bit of recursion for your other infectors as they will likely be targeted alot. Ambush Viper and Winged Coatl could be good for setting up an ambush on bigger things, or psuedo haste if cast on opponents turn, then enchant/equip on your own turn. That's all I could find... I kept forgetting we were limited to common in my searches.
3 months ago
I hadn't thought about Rancor ! Awesome suggestions. I threw in the Loxodon Warhammer in for the lifelink and trample. With this set up by turn 4 or 5 I'm only paying 2 for Nemesis of Mortals and at the most 3 for Ghoultree . Splinterfright perpetuates the self mill but I'll probably switch out two Nemesis of Mortals for a complete play set of Splinterfright and the other 2 for another Ghoultree and Ambush Viper just to round things off and make it more aggressive. MORE SUGGESTIONS PLEASE :)
4 months ago
The effect your replicating is Xathrid Slyblade , but unlike the Slyblade your creatures don't have any protection. Glissa, the Traitor also has both deathtouch and first strike, it even has a degree of synergy with your equipment. Ambush Viper has flash, so it can essentially function as a kill spell. Arena is a repeatable fight effect stapled to a land. The gods, Rhonas the Indomitable and Pharika, God of Affliction could be made for this deck, given it's themes...
Majestic Myriarch, isn't a new idea Cairn Wanderer , Soulflayer and Odric, Lunarch Marshal , but since none of your creatures have trample (sure they could Chariot of Victory but it costs 3 to cast and you only have 2) it can still be chump blocked by Lingering Souls in most cases.You could run Skinshifter , to provide trample or flying, alternatively use a cheap trampler like Charging Badger . Hope this helps, good luck brewing your deck.
4 months ago
I really like the concept of this deck. I have a few things that combine deathtouch and trample, but no all-deathtouch decks. That may need to change. :-) Evasion, such as flying and fear are nice to include in the mix, as you have. After all, the opponent may be running some deathtouch too. Your Viridian Longbow and Nature's Way go a long way to cover that base as well. Still, there's nothing like trample for a deathtoucher, as it lets you kill another critter along the way, and even against an indestructible blocker, it lets you deliver all but one power to the face or to take out several blockers if they want to line 'em up like dominos for ya.
That said, I'd try to find a place for more trample action, either in the critters themselves or in the buffs.
Some stuff I've found useful in your deck's colors:
Rabid Bite - Similar to Nature's Way but not quite as good
Larger Than Life , Wildsize - Trample + Buff
Bow of Nylea - More useful if you don't already have all deathtouchers
Champion of Lambholt , Overrun , Prowler's Helm , Rogue's Passage , Whispersilk Cloak - Evasion
Deadly Recluse - Another deathtouching early blocker, but this one has reach.
Ambush Viper - So sweet when they don't see it coming
First strike is also really nice in a deathtoucher, but if you try to have everything, it dilutes a deck too much.
Or can you . . . ? Chariot of Victory - First Strike + Trample + Haste and reusable
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