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Deadly Recluse Discussion
1 day ago
I really like the concept of this deck. I have a few things that combine deathtouch and trample, but no all-deathtouch decks. That may need to change. :-) Evasion, such as flying and fear are nice to include in the mix, as you have. After all, the opponent may be running some deathtouch too. Your Viridian Longbow and Nature's Way go a long way to cover that base as well. Still, there's nothing like trample for a deathtoucher, as it lets you kill another critter along the way, and even against an indestructible blocker, it lets you deliver all but one power to the face or to take out several blockers if they want to line 'em up like dominos for ya.
That said, I'd try to find a place for more trample action, either in the critters themselves or in the buffs.
Some stuff I've found useful in your deck's colors:
Rabid Bite - Similar to Nature's Way but not quite as good
Larger Than Life , Wildsize - Trample + Buff
Bow of Nylea - More useful if you don't already have all deathtouchers
Champion of Lambholt , Overrun , Prowler's Helm , Rogue's Passage , Whispersilk Cloak - Evasion
Deadly Recluse - Another deathtouching early blocker, but this one has reach.
Ambush Viper - So sweet when they don't see it coming
First strike is also really nice in a deathtoucher, but if you try to have everything, it dilutes a deck too much.
Or can you . . . ? Chariot of Victory - First Strike + Trample + Haste and reusable
2 weeks ago
I wouldn't call myself an "experienced Golgari player," but a while ago I built a deck with a similar idea in mind.
The main issue I see with your deck is that you have almost entirely creatures, with only 4 noncreature cards that aren't lands. I would recommend playing Grisly Salvage in your mainboard, 2-3 copies, as well as maybe some other cards that generate card advantage. The new Underrealm Lich is REALLY GOOD at that, but it's also an expensive card if you don't have it.
I would take out Nighthowler, just because it isn't that great and you already have a lot of cards doing similar things.
I would play a maximum of 2 copies of big finishers like Boneyard Wurm, Graveblade Marauder, or Ghoultree. You already have Splinterfright which does the same thing as the Wurm, and the others just aren't necessary because you have so many duplicates.
With the remaining 7-8 slots (after you take those out and put in the Grisly Salvages), I would recommend around 2 slots of removal other than Abrupt Decay (something like Doom Blade would be good). I mentioned draw before, and Elvish Visionary is a really good, cheap way to gain card advantage—plus, when it dies you get another creature in your graveyard. I would recommend 3 copies of Elvish Visionary and take out 1 Satyr Wayfinder.
That leaves 3-4 slots. I would actually play the Nyx Weavers, 2 copies, as they are a really good blocker and can fill up your graveyard easily.
Finally, with the last 1 or 2 slots, I would recommend Deadly Recluse What? A garbage common from a core set?? Yeah I know, but trust me, this is your best bet dealing with fliers. Flying gets underrated as a mechanic, but the second one of your buddies whips out a deck where all his little 1/1 tokens have flying, or his spirits start whacking you for 2 in the air every turn, these can slow down those attacks considerably.
So to review:
+2/3 Grisly Salvage
+2 Doom Blade
+2 Nyx Weaver
+1/2 Deadly Recluse
And that's it! Keep in mind that these are just suggestions. All of these cards can be had for about 50¢, and if you have them, I would definitely recommend Underrealm Lich instead of 1 of the Abrupt Decays, and a second copy instead of 1 of the Stitcher's Suppliers.
Have fun! I love playing around with the graveyard, and I hope these suggestions help you improve the deck!
5 months ago
You only have 19 lands I'd take outAcidic Slime Disciple of Phenax Extractor Demon Kessig Cagebreakers for more lands. Some good early stuff like Deathrite Shaman Deadly Recluse Llanowar Elves and Typhoid Rats shouldb help to speed the deck up
5 months ago
Updated Deck - Version 1.2
The goals of this change are to speed up the casting of my best creatures by a turn or two, improve the reliability of finding the payload creatures,and decrease the mana curve a bit.
3x Orcish Lumberjack - Fast mana in this deck's colors
3x Fierce Empath - Tutors the critical pieces
1x Forest - Small increase, as the Lumberjacks both help color balancing and consume Forests. May end up swapping 1 more Mountain for another Forest.
6 months ago
Looking at this one again lately for possible upgrades. I'm considering the following changes.
The point of the changes is to get the most important elements of the deck out more quickly and reliably.
6 months ago
Remove anything that doesn't say, "you may draw a card when a creature enters" or you might just deck yourself with your all-cheating. Momentous Fall, Soul's Majesty, or Life's Legacy could probably draw much better than Elemental Bond. With all the card draw this deck does, some redundancy with maximum hand size helps a lot. Spellbook, Library of Leng, Thought Vessel
I'm thinking a Brass Squire would be a nice inclusion, especially with some of my suggestions, or just because you move a lot of equipment around. Helm of the Host, can let you copy Grothama and have it fight itself for 20 cards drawn.
There are two big glaring weaknesses of this deck: Flyers, and removal. For removal best to worst: Beast Within, Song of the Dryads, Karn Liberated, Argentum Armor, Steel Hellkite, Spine of Ish Sah remove anything. Reclamation Sage, Acidic Slime, Bramblecrush, Woodfall Primus can slow down your opponents while building your board.
Never go without graveyard interaction, Tormod's Crypt, Scavenging Ooze, or Relic of Progenitus will put an end to the Spore Frog + Meren of Clan Nel Toth combo, Archaeomancer + Time Warp, and other shenanigans
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar and Ulvenwald Hydra are both giant reach creatures that hang back on D. They can fight Grothama and live too, just be sure to Fog so they don't go attacking with 10 damage marked on them. Tornado Elemental, Whirlwind, or Hurricane can deal with your archetypal Angel, Demon, or Dragon, tribal decks. Alternatively, Deadly Recluse or Hornet Queen will make no one want to attack you
9 months ago
I used to think likewise about mana rocks, but I'm back to test them because they really put you ahead faster than green ramp spells.
Sol Ring is just way too powerful not to use it, especially in a deck with costs that require so much generic mana.
In the best scenario where Rampant Growth, Sakura-Tribe Elder or Wayfarer's Bauble (or Gruul Signet that matter) are on your opening hand they will make you have four mana by turn three and you don't/didn't have so many important cards for four mana, you need to hit higher mana to start developing your game, the deck average mana cost is just too high for +1 mana spell to be meaningful.
Worn Powerstone and Overgrowth compared to Cultivate add the same amount amount of mana but if you cast them on turn three, with Worn Powerstone and Overgreowth you'll be on six mana by turn four providing you have a fourth land in your hand but with cultivate you'll only be on five mana. Overgrowth after turn three will usually be placed on a untapped land and you'll be able to use its mana on that same turn.
About Rite of the Raging Storm. In my meta the board will be starting to get scary by that point. There can be many problematic creatures like Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder, Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas, The Gitrog Monster and others. All that Rite of the Raging Storm does is just lowering other players life slowly, later it can be good to get triggers from Omnath, Where Ancients Tread and Warstorm Surge, but you can't keep the elemental for blocking purposes or to mass them for posterior use. You'll still have your doors open for anyone, and you know what? they will be pissed that they can't attack you with the token so they will attack you with their own creatures for sure. At that point a Deadly Recluse will probably be more useful (all of this on my meta, maybe your games play out differently). So all of this means that in your deck Rite of the Raging Storm is a late game card and for a late game card is not that good.