Hateflayer

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Eventide (EVE) Rare

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Hateflayer

Creature — Elemental

Wither (This deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)

(2)(Red), Untap: Hateflayer deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.

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Hateflayer Discussion

yugiy4 on Grusilda did the Monster Mash

1 month ago

I just dont see this as a super threatening deck. Grusilda's ability isn't being taken advantage of here. Platinum Angel + Phage the Untouchable, Combat Celebrant + Darksteel Sentinel, Avatar of Woe + Eater of the Dead, or even just as basic as Mage-Ring Responder + Hateflayer. Grusilda is a commander that thrives off of loopholes and creativity.

DrukenReaps on Mairsil, current cards

1 month ago

I have a Mairsil here Should I Pretend This Or That?. I tired my best on the primer to find all the interesting stuff for him. One thing I did notice early on is that the deck needs to not just place things in the cage, often times if you are putting as much in the cage as you can you end up falling way behind other players and have an over reliance on the commander.

Some of the more useful cards that you could include are:

Heartstone- Sure it helps everyone but this will do more for you then it will do for most other players.

Flamekin Village, Bloodsworn Steward, Hall of the Bandit Lord- I have found haste to be much more useful than untap abilities. I generally find myself flickering or bouncing Mairsil and then he is summoning sick... Honestly if I could make any changes to Mairsil all I would do is add haste.

Perilous Vault- this is kinda ridiculous in the cage. Hard on mana but I find that it doesn't hurt Mairsil nearly as much as it hurts everyone else. You could consider Boompile and Oblivion Stone for other cageable board wipes but really any board wipes should work. We tend to not have much on board with Mairsil so killing everything is really good.

Tree of Perdition with any of the following Spikeshot Elder, Hateflayer, Spikeshot Goblin. A caged tree drops people to 4 life making them really easy to finish off with the aforementioned cards or just swinging in for a pitiful 4 damage. It is important to finish a game quickly after doing this to one person as the others now know you can do it...

Mirror-Mad Phantasm caged and a Laboratory Maniac in play wins the next time you draw a card.

Heartless Hidetsugu- I have had a mixed experience with this guy. He is as likely to win the game as he is to lose the game but the ride to the end couldn't be more fun.

Hopefully some of that is of use to you. I know I had a difficult time finding good suggestions for all the hype it doesn't seem like many people ended up actually building Mairsil...

JuQ on Omnath Elemental/Landfall EDH

2 months ago

It depends on how many crads you want to remove. I usually start with the highest costs, big flashy cards are useless if you can't play them. Anyway most of the time they will be stolen, cloned, reanimated or casted for free from your library, or just be killed by some removal or board wipe, it's way better when your oponents spend resources against other players' creatures.

Avenger of Zendikar actually not that good. If left unchecked it can finish the game, but usually by your next turn you'll have a bunch of 2/3 plants which are still not so menacing. In a deck more dedicated to give board wide buffs to your creatures can perform better. Tokens are not elementals either.
Hateflayer I really like this creature a lot, and I want to find a deck where I can abuse it (vehicles maybe?), but just by itself, it's not that good, being an elemental just doesn't justify its inclusion.
Magmatic Force Yes, this creature is insane. You don't need to do anything it just sits there throwing lightning bolts here and there. Every turn that stays alive is producing value. But the cost is super high, so not really sure about remmoving it.
Phytotitan This card actually works with the deck, but I ended cutting it from mmy deck because it really wasn't enough for the cost, it doesn't comes back until you upkeep and comes tapped, so it's not that marvelous. The good part is it comboes perfectly with Incandescent Soulstoke, but it's the only creature that goes well with it. Most of the time you don't want to throw your elementals for one attack and then sacrificing them, do you?
Incandescent Soulstoke for the reason I previously stated. Just the +1/+1 to elementals won make this guy earn its spot.
Smokebraider not a bad card, but you don't have too many elemental spells. Playing green you have available all the mana dorks you can dream of, Whisperer of the Wilds will easily give you two greens to spend on whatever you want. But you should really start by getting a Sol Ring, an absolutely broken card that should had never existed that you can get for an stupily low price. Then, the next mana rocks to include would be Worn Powerstone, Thran Dynamo and also Overgrowth. You are trying to reach a really high costs, so you need cards that give you more than one mana, spending one card on ramping one mana just isn't enough, you need to get to 7.
Soulbright Flamekin Don't let all those red mana symbols fool you. You give it six colorless mana and it gives you eight red mana, so in fact it's just producing a net two mana, but you have to spend six before, bad deal.
Wayfarer's Bauble, Sakura-Tribe Elder and Rampant Growth As I said before, spending one card to get one land ahead just isn't enough. When you are in a rush to get to the fourth mana because that's the cost of your commander and you need it to get the deck rolling then that kind of cards are great, but if you ramp like that you'll run out of cards in hand and you still won't be able to cast Omnath. You need cards that give you more than one mana.
Rite of the Raging Storm the problem with this card is when you cast it what you really need is survival. On top of that, you won't get your token until your next turn.
Second Harvest It's a "win more" card. If you have a couple or more of the Omnath tokens to duplicate I'd say you are on a confortable situation and if the opponents dont do something against it soon they are going to be in a world of pain soon anyway. I rather have a card like Heroic Intervention to keep my position on the board in case of board wipe than trying to push a bit ahead and then risk wasting the card, but that is a personal preference.

In my experiencie, the biggest problem of the deck is that in the early game you are really weak and you run out of cards if you try to rush to seven mana. So you need cheaper creatures, more card draw, board wipes and some way to pillow fort yourself.
Arbor Colossus This guy may be what you need: big, cheap, with reach, and it can even destroy some naughty dragon who dare come too close.
Ohran Viper This creature is really nice, gives you cards (hopefuly it can get you a couple of them) and if it stays back to block works as deterrent.
Chain Reaction this card can be as wild as Blasphemous Act. You won't get a better board wipe for that mana in these colors.
Thaumatic Compass  Flip helps you get lands and later becomes protection from attacks, maybe it's worth trying it out here.
I would add one more sacrifice outlet just in case, like Altar of Dementia or Spawning Pit, you don't want your small elemental tokens exiling insted of going to graveyard.
Blade of Selves Is my secret weapon. When you equip Omnath with it and attack, the myriad copies are created at the same time and because of the legendary rule (copies of Omnath are also legendary) they are all put in the graveyard as soon as they are created and you'll get one trigger for each Omnath that was alive times each Omnath that died. After geting your calculator to work out the numbers you will see that it's a whole lotta damage.

_Kane_ on Mairsil, the Pretender

2 months ago

If you're still looking for cuts here are my suggestions.

Overall Ideas: 1. Cut the instants and sorceries. 2. Add better creatures/artifacts with activated abilities.

CUT:

I would look to add more wheel effects to get cards into the graveyard. Although it can feel a little similar to chaos the results are more effective card draw and will fill up your graveyard faster with more additions. Meaning you would fill your graveyard with more potential options for Marsil; and will add more overall card draw potential than the following cards: Probe, Flux, Mystical Teachings, Cathartic Reunion, Careful Study, Gifts Ungiven, Thirst for Knowledge, Frantic Search

Silumgar's Command: There are better creatures/artifacts that can fulfill this role through Marsil and have the additional benefit of being repeatable.

Walking Ballista: 4 mana for a +1/+1 counter is not efficient enough to justify it's inclusion.

Argent Sphinx: I think that relying on Metalcraft in this deck will end poorly in most situations.

Snapcaster Mage: By removing the instants and socrceries Snappy becomes less effective and should be removed.

Galecaster Colossus: Similar situation with this card having no activated abilities, the high CMC, and the ability to only bounce two (with the Colossus and Marsil on the battlefield) non-land permanents a turn doesn't seem worthy of an inclusion.

Decree of Pain: Being in Grixis colors, you have access to more effective card draw and board wipe spells than to justify this cards high CMC even with the cycling component.

Anthroplasm: This card confuses me and I don't understand its use. Care to enlighten me?

Cephalid Coliseum: You have access to better card draw that is repeatable.

Hammer of Purphoros: Unnecessary haste inclusion.

ADDS:

Basalt Monolith: All the ramp. None of the draw backs.

Hateflayer: BOOM, goes the dynamite.

Pili-Pala: The best part of your deck is this card.....

Jace's Archivist: Wheels for days..

Avatar of Woe: Problem solved. Plus can be a cheap cast on its own.

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth+ Cabal Coffers: Need I say more?

Chromatic Lantern, Commander's Sphere, and Fellwar Stone: Three color deck has three colors...

Vandalblast: You're playing red right?

Mercurial Chemister: Ehh, Idk about this one.

Entomb: Tutor time.

Gamble: Great tutor for your deck.

Cavern Harpy: Wow, just, wow....

Training Grounds: Mana reductions are the key.

Woiteck on Scorpion God

2 months ago

The Scorpion God is hella fun!!!

If I may suggest something, both Hateflayer and Incremental Blight are great with this general, whereas Liliana, Death Wielder is not (from my experience, at least).

Take a look at my version, The Scorpio Juggernaut, if you like and perhaps you'll find something useful there.

carpecanum on A God's Venom

3 months ago

Creatures with wither or infect can throw counters around with Fire Whip, Power of Fire, Lavamancer's Skill and Burning Anger. The Hateflayer goes crazy with one of these to tap, then untap, repeat as often as you have mana. Pretty funny on Stigma Lasher as well.

Arcane Lighthouse might help.

You have a LOT of creatures that would be great in a Soul Foundry because of effects that take place as they enter of leave the battlefield.

Corrosive_Cat on Lets Pretend We Don't Have A Combo!

4 months ago

You thought about stuff like Crackleburr, or Knacksaw Clique? Infinite combos I'm sure with some of that stuff, like with Krark-Clan Stoker or something similar?

Plus Pyromancer's Goggles could be crazy.

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