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|Journey into Nyx (JOU)||Rare|
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- Abilities that don't tap. Can i cast multiple times
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- Can I respond to a trigger during my upkeep?
- If I have Hivestone and Sliver overlord and I use mob rule can I use Sliver overlord gain control ability on them to permanently gain control of them.... (I know I would have to pay 3 each time)
- Do clone cards copy counters on creatures?
Creature — Hydra
Heroes' Bane enters the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters on it.
: Put X +1/+1 counters on Heroes' Bane, where X is it's power.
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Heroes' Bane Discussion
6 days ago
It will not copy the counters.
The copiable values of an object are its name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and loyalty. These values are usually copied exactly as printed, though changes due to other copy effects, face-down status, and some effects that set a creature's power and toughness (such as "as (the object) enters the battlefield" or "as (the object) is turned face up") can be copied.
Counters and objects attached to an object are not copied.
That being said, Heroes' Bane does enter the battlefield with four +1/+ counters on it, so as long as the copy is entering the battlefield as a copy, it will gain those initial four counters. So Clone or Altered Ego will get those four counters (plus Altered Ego will get a number of additional counters based on what you set for X when casting it). Artisan of Forms , on the other hand, will not get Heroes' Bane 's initial four counters as it wouldn't be entering the battlefield as a copy, and would thus have P/T of 0/0.
6 days ago
For example if I used a clone card like Clone or Altered Ego on a creature such as Heroes' Bane that has been pumped, we’ll say it’s a 16/16. Does the clone copy the counters? Or just in general if I copy a creature with +1/1 counters does the copy receive those counters?
2 weeks ago
I play Muldrotha too and I noticed you said you lacked a specific win con. I'm currently building my Muldrotha deck and I'm not aware of any commander based win-cons but I have a few in my deck. The idea is this:
1) Have Heroes' Bane , Corpsejack Menace , and Kalonian Hydra on the field 2) Pay and make Heroes' Bane a 12/12 because Corpsejack doubles the amount of +1/+1 you would put on him 3) Do that again, making him a 46/46 for the same reasons as before 4) Swing with Kalonian Hydra, Bane is now a 138/138 because Kalonian doubles Bane's counters and Corpsejack doubles the amount you would put on him 5) During your second main-phase, sac him to Jarad, each opponent loses life equal to the sacrificed creature's toughness.
The whole deal only costs 11 mana if you already have the creatures on the field. If you play heavy ramp you can pull it off turn 9 or 10, even earlier if you're lucky. None of the cards are super expensive, Kalonian Hydra is $6 and the rest are under .60 so everything should be more than affordable if you're low on spending money.
There's also a couple other cards you could add that just make sense in Muldrotha. Secrets of the Dead and Deadbridge Chant are necessary additions for Muldrotha. That also leaves room for another win con because of the color scheme; Exquisite Blood and Sanguine Blood. It's a bit pricier but it's a solid garuntee for a victory if you can manage to put them both on the field with something like Zulaport Cutthroat .
2 months ago
Since Nikya is your commander, you can play 12 mana creatures the turn after he comes out, and that's impressive. Here's a few budget options. Ancient Stone Idol , Darksteel Colossus , Desolation Twin , Pathrazer of Ulamog , Artisan of Kozilek , Ulamog's Crusher , It That Betrays , Primeval Protector . Some other fun cards are hydras like Heroes' Bane , Polukranos, World Eater , and Primordial Hydra .
2 months ago
Nice deck. Looks a lot like what we've built: Engulfed in Energy.
Have you considered Uncage the Menagerie? Bit less powerful than Genesis Wave but still, ...
Also, for all of that (infinite) mana you're going to hoard, you could consider some more creature-outlets on which to spend it like Heroes' Bane, Hydra Broodmaster, Polukranos, World Eater and Primordial Hydra.
Have fun brewing and playing.
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
3 months ago
Also, there is an entire story depiction in Aether Revolt.
It begins (I believe) with Fatal Push. We see the Aetherborn kill someone.
He than blows up the ship and flees in Daring Demolition.
3 months ago
My suggestions for cuts are plentiful. However, Kresh the Bloodbraided comes to mind immediately. Reyhan, Last of the Abzan would be good, Ob Nixilis, the Fallen is great, Rockslide Elemental is similar to Kresh, Taurean Mauler is another Managorger, and Yahenni, Undying Partisan and Malakir Cullblade, with even more similarities to Kresh, may fit well with your flavor. Curse of Stalked Prey could help, alongside Curse of Predation, some mana rocks would do you good, Apocalypse Hydra, and many other hydras would be decent finishers, Kalonian Hydra takes the cake though. Armorcraft Judge is nice, along with Inspiring Call, Pelt Collector and Experiment One, Champion of Lambholt, maybe Heroes' Bane, Ravenous Slime, Rubblebelt Raiders, Deus of Calamity, Scute Mob, Sporeback Troll, Tuskguard Captain, Vinelasher Kudzu, Soul's Majesty, Falkenrath Exterminator, and Stromkirk Noble?
So that's a few suggestions. Want me to propose cuts as well?
4 months ago
Heroes' Bane occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%