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Creature — Hydra
Heroes' Bane enters the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters on it.
2 : Put X +1/+1 counters on Heroes' Bane, where X is it's power.
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Heroes' Bane Discussion
5 days ago
How about Selvala, Heart of the Wilds to pump out big Mana?
And Heroes' Bane you can just keep making it bigger.
1 week ago
Hey there, I see you have definitely tried out a lot of differing playstyles that's for sure. Let me apologize in advance for the length of what I have had to say, but all of which I feel helps to give some background to the deck choices I now play.
Anyways here's a bit of background about my experience with magic. I first had started playing at around Theros, although I knew nothing of modern, or even standard at this time and just played this casual deck featuring Prophet of Kruphix, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Heroes' Bane, Plasm Capture, Explosive Vegetation, Roil Elemental, Archetype of Imagination, Horizon Chimera, Chasm Skulker, and some other stuff. I always had difficulty keeping it at 60 cards and at it's highest I think I was playing like 80 or so cards. I eventually opened a Windswept Heath expedition by the time of BFZ and proceeded to sell it when I learned of it's value a few weeks later. With the credit and some cash I bought things like a Kozilek, Butcher of Truth because I started to become very interested in the eldrazi tribe, then stuff like Omnath, locust of mana, Spawnsire of Ulamog, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, and all of the other praetors minus Urabrask.
Next I then got into playing commander, and my then first actual constructed deck was one led by Vorel of the Hull Clade and which was largely at first built from my existing casual simic deck. Then into playing standard at around late BFZ / a few months away from OGW releasing with essentially an upgraded into deck around eldrazi. Then by around SOI I began playing my first 'competitive' standard deck in contrast to the eldrazi with vampires which were somewhat hyped early on. I also began playing modern around this time too, and at first with this eldrazi deck. I now look back at how horrible that deck was lol, it played basic lands, Jungle Hollows, 1 Eldrazi Temple, and a couple Shrine of the Forsaken Gods alongside things like Bane of Bala Ged, Blisterpod, and even my 1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. My first match ever of modern I obviously got wrecked and it was by storm, here I was playing Blisterpod and the like while my opponent was casting Gitaxian Probe after Gitaxian Probe, Serum Visions, Pyretic Ritual etc and my awful, clunky deck never got to do anything.
Later I just borrowed decks from others at my town's still fairly new lgs and I started with mono green stompy and then infect which I absolutely loved. I started to build the deck myself during Eldritch Moon largely from trades from the same guy who let me play the deck to start with, who had extra cards for the deck. I however sadly stopped building it at around kaladesh/aether revolt after the banning of Gitaxian Probe and the printing of fatal push. More recently noble hierarchs have had increased a fair bit in prices and that was another reason. Being a student I didn't want to sink too much money into modern at first either. Later on, much closer to the present I finally began to build a tron deck for modern to take the place of my unfinished infect. I had already been thinking of building such a deck much earlier at around the same time as I originally was thinking about infect, but I decided against it and chose the infect.
I now went with the more cheaper mono version of the deck and through almost 100% by trading I managed to put together the deck to play about a month before Amonkhet released.
In summary here, I took a liking early on in magic to casting large spells as seen by my playing of eldrazi, ramping, and then as well as generating lots of mana overall. That is why I now see that tron and any of it's variants are among my favorite type of deck to play. From also playing with the praetors and a couple other cards long ago, I had also taken a liking to the Mirrodin block and the infect mechanic even though I never got the chance to play at that time. At some point, I plan to finish the deck even though it isn't what it use to be, but that's alright as I like the playstyle it offers and a bit more of a challenge might keep things interesting. Mainly got to buy the Noble Hierarchs, then some more of the lands like Pendelhaven, Breeding Pools, and 3 more of the 8 average green fetches it wants to have, but then it was done.
Although I didn't mention it before, but from Kaladesh up until now I have been playing a delirium deck, and more recently an energy variant due to rotation nearing and I also loved the graveyard interaction and strategies. Emrakul, the Promised End, Ishkanah, Grafwidow, Liliana, the Last Hope, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Grim Flayer, alongside Traverse the Ulvenwald was a blast to play. While not being maybe top tier, I have been keeping in mind porting something like this deck over to modern despite unfortunately selling off my lilianas and flayers and making a sultai () delirium deck in modern. Tarmogoyf, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, Mishra's Bauble, Thoughtseize among others could be added. Abzan midrange has also been in my mind to try. I would like to find a home for one of my all time favorite cards since I started back in Theros, and that is Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet in modern maybe.
Furthermore, just like eldrazi, slivers are among my most favorite and beloved creature types in magic, and that is why I now play them in commander, pauper, and someday hopefully standard too! I have been considering now that tron is finished, of buiding something else in modern that is tribal and with the recent iconic masters spoilers revealing a reprint to aether vial, that now is the time to try something like this whether it be slivers, or even merfolk in modern.
Here is a final breakdown of what I like to play and might possibly build .
Current decks:- Mono U Tron (Might later try out eldrazi tron if I acquire chalices and temples)- Infect (Not complete)
Ideas for my future decks (Probably will only choose 1-2)
Slivers or Merfolk tribal
On a final note, what I suggest you look into anyways is trying something with planeswalkers perhaps? With the upcoming changes to planeswalkers from Ixalan, this might open up some interesting new ideas. My immediate thoughts on this are playing an orzhov () deck around Gideon of the Trials and other gideons, then even Liliana of the Veil and Liliana, the Last Hope, plus stuff like possibly Slaughter Pact , Collective Brutality, then also tokens from Bitterblossom, and Lingering Souls.
Or what about consider something like Abzan just like I have always been interested in. Here's a sample list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-abzan#paper
I will admit the price of something like it had always scared me away from it in the past, even now still kind of after some reprints in mm17, but I definitely have been interested in it.
But anyways what you could try doing if you haven't already been doing so, is proxying cards and even decks to get a feel for them outside of fnm events and what not. I suggest you give something like my above suggestion a try or something from my own interests listed. I hope this was of help to you as well as maybe even remotely interesting or more, I do apologize yet again for the extensiveness of my post!
- Longest tappedout message of mine ever...
1 month ago
I guess Kalonian Hydra is the closest you can get to a hydra lord, huh? ;)
I think I would add more Hardened Scales and Metallic Mimic, and possibly Adaptive Automaton. This also looks like a deck that could benefit from some copies of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, especially when you only run 20 lands right now.
I would definitely add more ramp. I like Elvish Mystic and Sakura-Tribe Elder. another good one is Heartbeat of Spring. Yes, it benefits both players, but chances are you have more ways to take advantage of it.
I would cut Nissa's Pilgrimage and Solidarity of Heroes. Solidarity feels super win-more, and Pilgrimage is just not as good as some other ramp is. I would also cut Heroes' Bane, which is incredibly slow.
I love the pun in the title.
1 month ago
I would cut all 8 enchantments from your deck to add 4 Hardened Scales and 4 Elvish Mystic. All Kalonian Tusker does is trigger evolve so i would cut it for Khalni Hydra or Heroes' Bane if budget is a concern. Consider adding some copies of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Green Sun's Zenith to the deck.
Mistcutter Hydra deserves some slots on your sideboard.
1 month ago
Protean Hydra Paradox Engine Lifeblood Hydra Heroes' Bane Natural Order Green Sun's Zenith Fauna Shaman Sylvan Tutor and for better draw and the such Sensei's Divining Top Mirri's Guile and Sylvan Library and for things to cut i would say Drove of Elves seeing as there are better choices and Deadly Recluse while it does have reach it just isn't that good play cards like Tornado Elemental or Predator, Flagship and i would replace Viridian Emissary with Yavimaya Elder
2 months ago
I took your advice and added Selvala, Heart of the Wilds to my commander deck. While testing with her in my deck I managed to get her on the field with both Heroes' Bane, and Kalonian Hydra. I was able to double Heroes' Bane's power and toughness to 4096 with his ability. Doubling it again by swinging with Kalonian Hydra, and then tapping Selvala, Heart of the Wilds for 8192 green mana. I then proceeded to continue doubling Heroes' Bane until the program I was using to test crashed completely.
2 months ago
Torrent Elemental is not a legal card with Surrak as the commander. Both colors of the hybrid mana in either the casting cost or ability activation cost must exist in the commander's color identity. So, for example, you could play Giant Solifuge in this deck (not that I would, but it is legal to do so) but it would be illegal to play Nightveil Specter.
Frost walker and Cyclone sire are more 60-card format cards.
Torrent elemental is illegal.
Gruul turf and Izzet boilerworks seem good, but they're really just strip mine/wasteland bait.
Gruul charm is bad. Be greener and invest in trample.
Nissa's Renewal is late game ramp. That's bad. Early game ramp is better.
Burn is bad in EDH.
I would suggest (these are all just good cards for your consideration, I know there are probably more than I suggested taking out):
For a 3 color deck, the landbase would also be improved by taking out basics and putting in things like:
Ideally, for a landbase you'd have shock lands such as Steam Vents, fetch lands such as Scalding Tarn, and regular dual lands such as Volcanic Island, but those things are expensive and this is a game.
2 months ago
Heroes' Bane, Master Biomancer, Deepglow Skate, Chasm Skulker, Fathom Mage, Sage of Hours, i also went with lots of hydras in my atraxa deck but these are strong and must for counters. Inexorable Tide, Hardened Scales, Tezzeret's Gambit, Contagion Engine,Contagion Clasp,Astral Cornucopia also come to mind here is my vorel deck also for more ideas Counter Productive (merfolk tribal) i would consider more artifacts and lands that have counter to benefit off of your commanders ability.