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Each player loses a third of his or her life, then discards a third of the cards in his or her hand, then sacrifices a third of the creatures he or she controls, then sacrifices a third of the lands he or she controls. Round up each time.
3 days ago
No Pox , Fraying Omnipotence , or Death Cloud ? I feel like these cards don't get nearly enough love, and considering how much these should be draining your opponents, you should get that extra card whenever you cast them.
5 days ago
Me and my friends are trying to build ultra-budget formatless decks to play "competitively" against each other. The restriction is it cant be more expensive (based on a particular website min. price) than 15 dollars.
I started sketching some decks online based on strong cards that are also cheap or banned in other formats. For example i could use Ponder and Brainstorm and even Treasure Cruise and Hymn to Tourach .
i came up with this:
Ill be linking the decks ASAP here.
do you guys have any cool ideas for decks that i can come up with that are strong and fast, or maybe some weird control or combo deck would be nice too. Id like some kind of Balance deck xD
2 weeks ago
speedykoala Glad you're enjoying it! Always makes me happy to hear comments like that.
Honestly that's been something I've been struggling with too. The two biggest issues I've been having are getting the deck online quick enough and dealing with the table hate.
Since a lot of the major cards in this deck are 5 CMC or higher, it can take a bit to actually start dealing the damage I want to do with this deck. I tried adding in more ramp to deal with this, but maybe even more is needed.
But getting back to your question; I think a mixture of both suggestions would be best.
Politics never hurts unless you really abuse it and overdo it. Any sort of actions you can take to throw the heat off of you are going to be valuable in any deck you play. Even if it means sandbagging a couple of cards back in your hand so that you don't seem like a threat until you have an explosive turn then it might be worth it. Given that this deck deals a lot of its damage in small increments it might not be possible to realistically take this route often, but it might be worth considering trying to combo Manabarbs with a damage doubler instead of throwing it down on turn 4. Or maybe instead just hold your pieces until someone else at the table becomes an established threat so that their eyes aren't on you.
As far as pillowfort goes, there are definitely some pieces that you could run that aren't currently in this deck just because I couldn't find the space for them. Smoke , Glacial Chasm , and Dread are all perfectly good options to be running in this deck to discourage attackers. With the addition of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Cabal Coffers , and Crypt Ghast I think Pestilence could be a decent option to run alongside Pyrohemia to help keep the board clean. Plus there are plenty of other boardwipes like Damnation , Life's Finale , and Chain Reaction that this deck isn't currently running but wouldn't be bad options since the deck is pretty creature-lite.
I don't know how you're feeling about the discard package in the deck but I think I might tone it down a bit. It brings a lot of hate and doesn't accomplish what I hoped it would. I thought it would reduce the amount of options people had to deal with Xantcha and incentivize them to use her activated ability more. In my experience it just causes people to want to attack me more instead. So I'm considering removing Sire Of Insanity , Necrogen Mists , and maybe either Pox or Fraying Omnipotence .
Hope this helped a bit! Sorry I couldn't give a better answer, still ironing out the kinks myself.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for stopping by Polybius. It took me a while to get the focus again on this deck. I have been playing it lots of times lately, but I never really aimed for any changes. So I left the deckpage unnoticed for a while.
Pox and Death Cloud can both deliver devastating blows, but timing is indeed essential. But these effects are just so damn rewarding for a Nath deck, that it is too good to be left out. But I know the feeling when it can go wrong. I've had lots of success with them, compared to the several times they backfired.
3 weeks ago
Since you're already running Cabal Coffers , I will accept no excuse regarding budget for not running Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . In fact, there are a lot of nonbasics lands you could be running--I don't care if you have 50 Lashwrithe s in your deck and every other deck in your meta is playing Blood Moon , you don't need to be playing more than 20 swamps at the very most.
Something else I'd suggest for a more powerful wincon might be Rise of the Dark Realms . You know, since you're already making everyone discard and sacrifice all their good creatures and discarding some yourself. Hell, if you pitched a Gray Merchant of Asphodel , that'll probably just make him even better--they go well together. You could also consider Living Death if you think you'll be gaining more advantage out of it than anyone else, though that'd best be run with Leyline of the Void or something.
Oh, and since you're already being pretty suicidal (you're literally playing Pox , don't tell me you're not), why not play Plunge into Darkness ? Better if you're looking to combo out specifically, but still not bad, otherwise.
3 weeks ago
Hedronz that card's cool, i haven't seen that yet. for cards to help you dump cards Necrogen Mists , Pox , Smallpox , Collective Brutality , Sinister Concoction or fauna shaman are some cards off the top of my head which do not completely suck. from a budgetless perspective, having razaketh in the deck means that drawing a hulk piece is no dealbreaker; activate raz, crack LED in response, discard hulk, razaketh resolves fetching necromancy.
pao2 sorry to say it but you need LED. L//D on its own is bottom of the barrel reanimation, i'd say it's even with exhume. razaketh without both L//D and LED isn't good enough; reanimating razaketh with permanents in play must win the game. out of the replacement options you mentioned i'd choose tanglewire and fleshbag #3. replacing imperial seal with a fauna shaman or armasaur makes sense, you have to maintain a reasonable ratio of card selection and advantage effects but they're largely interchangeable.
i'm sick of answering questions on tappedout so i'm going to add a permanent invitation to the meren discord at the top of this bastard. let me know if it doesn't work.
1 month ago
MediSyntax you know the judge promo is only like $150 at most?
I've been testing and I've managed to some conclusions. Firstly: walking ballista is turned off entirely by both Null Rod & Stony Silence . Crypt Ghast is a much more efficient win condition (extort triggers via excess mana & casts w/ Gravecrawler ) as it condenses the win condition to being part of cards which are useful in of themselves.
Some dead cards: Mindslicer & Dark Deal - unless you have a Waste Not out, these cards do next to nothing - there are a few great replacement options which will help to steer this deck in the right direction:
Diregraf Colossus is a 3 mana zombie who functions as an alternative to bridge from below, while keeping most of the combos still working - I've often found that I am left just needing BFB in my yard, or worried that an opponent will sacrifice / Flash a creature to exile it.
Mausoleum Secrets is a fantastic tutor which I've been caught with in hand only once when I was unable to use it. More often than not it's an instant-speed Demonic Tutor , though it'll mostly never fetch Razaketh, the Foulblooded .
Thornbite Staff lines are... weak. But they do function! The difficulty faced is that you end up paying 8 mana for TBS & to equip it to a 2 mana Priest of Forgotten Gods or Soldevi Adnate - at the huge mana expenditure it's wholely useless otherwise.
Pitiless Plunderer is quite possibly a must-have include for the deck - the number of times I've been able to reanimate it more cheaply than it would be to cast phyrexian altar is nuts & it's all too often that there's a sac' outlet in play.
Liliana, Untouched By Death is bad. I often times end up discarding it, due to greater options being available, but it does make for another win condition in the case that GC gets exiled, so a maybe in more reactive metas.
Midnight Reaper is a zombie who draws every time something dies; while it deals damage to you is unnecessary (since you could run a non-zombie variant of this card at the same mana cost & stats) I find that it puts in enough work to be considered worthwhile.
The following cards feel like they're left over from the fun deck that this may have used to be: Rings of Brighthearth , Basalt Monolith , Smallpox , Pox ; Some of the current options I'm running are found above, along with Imperial Seal , Grim Tutor , Rain of Filth & Priest of Gix .
In a real game this list seems to want to beat the creature meta. Goldfishing, Lili puts out consistent turn 6 or sooner wins. But in cEDH pods up against the likes of flash-hulk najeela & Tazri food chain the deck doesn't often get a chance to shine. It feels often that instead of speeding up, maybe this should look more like a stax deck when it's finalised.
Culling the Weak is a fantastic idea! I'll try that out too!
1 month ago
Have you considered cards like:
- Mind Twist
- Mind Shatter
- Hymn to Tourach
- Syphon Mind
- Death Cloud
- Small Pox
- Ill-Gotten Gains
- Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip
- Liliana of the Veil
- Torment of Hailfire
- Waste Not
Hope that helps!
Pox occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%