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Each player loses a third of his or her life, then discards a third of the cards in his or her hand, then sacrifices a third of the creatures he or she controls, then sacrifices a third of the lands he or she controls. Round up each time.
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2 weeks ago
Finally stopped by to check out your Nath list, I had no clue it was the main Nath deck on TappedOut! Congrats man, as I’m sure you’ve heard a thousand times, great work on the deck and primer.
I’m curious about your experiences playing with Pox and Death Cloud. I love these cards but in my playtesting they can really backfire. Usually Nath is killed off in response to one of them being cast or they sit in my hand and do nothing.
2 weeks ago
Aristocrat is a lot of fun, I run a sac/graveyard Meren deck. So for draws I recommend Phyrexian Arena and Necropotence. Be warned though, Necropotence is a powerful draw engine but it can be very hard to use in three+ color decks. If you feel confident in your mana base to run BBB then I say go for it.
Some fun sac cards I recommend adding is Innocent Blood. Its a nice way to make everybody lose a creature, you will only lose a token so who cares. Victimize you get to bring back 2 vampires from the dead for the price of one of your tokens. If ya want to spend big money, you can add Phyrexian Altar, its a good sac outlet just like Ashnod's Altar. You can also run Goblin Bombardment as another sac outlet that can help with removal. Attrition is another sac outlet that can help with removal.
Now I run this in my Meren deck because I love how much it does and it fits in a sac theme. Pox, it is super powerful and usually you will be destroying tokens and nothing of too much value. However if you dont want to hurt your self too much, Smallpox is the more efficient way of doing things. very similar to Innocent Blood however for one mana more it does a lot more.
Now this is going to be a bit expensive card however it is very powerful in any tribal deck that runs red, Mana Echoes. You will be racking a lot of colorless mana that can help you cast more spells.
Because most of your deck is black, you can also run Contamination. Its a nice sac outlet and it makes everybody play black. So all your nonblack opponents are out of the game. You will be making a nice amount of tokens so you wont be running out of stuff to sacrifice anytime soon and you can easily win the game when nobody else is playing. If you want to spend a bit you can also put Bitterblossom and guarantee that you will never have Contamination leave the field.
For tutors, I reccomened Diabolic Intent. Its way better than Diabolic Tutor. I say replace your Diabolic Tutor for Diabolic Intent. It is two mana cheaper and you can easily just sac one of your tokens to search for a powerful enchantment or creature.
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Well, when going for the CMDR kill, Mesmeric Orb is the card of dreams, where other cards aren't bad, like Vicious Rumors, they don't do enough to warrant me wanting their inclusion without the commander.
What should be kept is a lot of tutors, to fetch different cards, as well as a lot of ramp. Then a reasonably large hand disruption package, and finishing the deck off with some combos, and cards that do a ton to swing the board in your favor.
Unsure of your budget, and the power level you want, here are the cards I would add to increase the competitiveness of the deck:
(On a budget? Do nothing with the lands!)
Draw: Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper, Sensei's Divining Top, Scroll Rack, and Asylum Visitor (can top cards you don't want to discard), Library of Leng (tops cards you don't want to discard again... but in a different way), Necropotence
(On a budget? use control elements like Doom Blade, and removal in black instead of stax, some of the more budget stax is okay, but generally the more layered stax the better, so the less the worse each is. Removal is a good replacement.)
Vicious Rumors, Abyssal Nocturnus, Fell Specter, Guul Draz Specter, Herald of Anguish, Hypnotic Specter, Liliana's Reaver, Myojin of Night's Reach, Needle Specter, Scythe Specter, Sewer Nemesis, Stronghold Rats, Wei Night Raiders, Whispering Specter, Ghoulcaller's Bell, Darksteel Plate, Ordeal of Erebos, Raiders' Wake, Bontu's Last Reckoning, Anvil of Bogardan, Putrefaction, Painful Quandary, Megrim, Fraying Omnipotence, Rise of the Dark Realms, Torment of Hailfire, Liliana Vess.
Not sorry about the long comment ;)
4 weeks ago
SynergyBuild I actually love the idea of both of those cards! I've never even seen Bottomless Pit before and Necrogen Mists was on my radar when I first started building this deck but ended up falling off somehow.
4 weeks ago
I like Smokestack because it does double duty, it takes away from my opponents and my self unfortunately but pumps my cmdr as well. Having this hit the battlefield after I play my cmdr seems pretty good. I had Pox in my original design but removed it because losing my cmdr to it sucked, so I took it out. So with that all being said I like the idea of having a bunch of synergy with the cmdr makeing the cmdr 40 percent of the deck plan to SMASH and another 40 percent being hand destruction and burn, with the last 20 percent being game ending combos, preferably ones that work well with the rest of the deck. Kinda like how the Bloodchief Ascension + Mindcrank combo both stand alone synergistically works with almost all other cards and the cmdr. I'm open to ideas that are combos outside of the deck game plan as long as it can be obtained without making lots of changes. As of right now. I'm okay with about 5 changes.
Sorry about the long post SynergyBuild
4 weeks ago
griffstick I was called.
Love this deck, but I need to know how far deep do you want to go in on the commander. This deck can be a powerful black-stax deck with combo inside, and a commander backup, or a commander-forward, combo-backup plan. It is up to you.
As is, if you want to go with the stax plan, Pox, Sphere of Resistance, Smokestack, Tangle Wire, Thorn of Amethyst etc. are all good as you run serious value plans forcing discard. Less of that and more of tax/tap effects can really run them out of all outs. This deck's commander acts as a wincon to a deck that can just lock the game out really fast given it is played right.
Now, if this deck is aimed at being more gimmicky, combo-y, thematic, etc, I will want to know that before I start to suggest swaps, also, what in particular power level do you want, do you have a budget?
1 month ago
XD I forgot to upvote!
Did that, now I actually love this deck. After looking over your meta, only Teferi Chain Veil seems to be the unfavorable matchup, assuming it is the Highest tiered varient, and I still think you have good outs to that deck (Hex Parasite).
24 of your 27 matchups are favorable, 2 of them are balanced, and 1 is unfavorable. That is insane overall.
If this deck doesn't force other players to make major changes to their decks, have them outright ban you and your shenanigans, I think you can expect a lot of wins handed to you, given this deck mulligans well.
A couple suggestions, given you want to spend the money, I have found Liliana of the Veil to have good potential for discard as an engine, and can remove threatening creatures your hate cannot deal with.
Other walkers could help, but overall you have the 4 major ones, with Aminatou being the best ;)
I still feel like other control/stax lists will fall to your ability to crush opposing players mana and hand apart. Painful Quandary is a very clunky card, so I wouldn't run it, but Cunning Lethemancer isn't much better, really hampered by the fact that you run cards like Humility, Necrogen Mists might be the best option for another discard enchantment, but I would prefer something better than that.
I really think just a few cards like Smallpox or Pox could work, really making discard come from nowhere, I think Aminatou might have some good synergy with Words of Waste, but you still go back a card, because Aminatou forces you to put back a card, unless you are empty handed. Liliana Vess forces discard, but it targets the player, is clunky on mana, and is probably better as a tutor.