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Changeling *(This card is every creature type at all times.) *
Protection from black
: Chameleon Colossus gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is its power.
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Chameleon Colossus Discussion
2 weeks ago
wall of text warning, sorry i got a little carried away, i love Zacama, and been playing a lot of it so i couldn't resist trying to help another player out.
My thoughts on your artifacts:
Doubling Cube it's not very good in a zacama deck as it's not really recur-able like the other mana doublers.
Sunforger it's essentially 8 mana to tutor for an instant, that's mana better spend just drawing cards, or better tutors.
The Immortal Sun if you're trying to stop a lot of planeswalker in your meta, keep it, otherwise it's too expensive of a cast.
after you cut those artifacts add in Stony Silence and/or Null Rod which adds more stuff for your enlightned tutor to fetch. this will not really stop you other than your equipments, sol ring, and mana vault (which I MIGHT cut, up to you though on that one) which is waaay less important than everyone else's rocks that they're probably relying on more than you.
thoughts on Enchantments:
Aura Shards you're not running enough creatures to really benefit you, and Zacama IS aura shards.
Aggravated Assault + Bear Umbra is cute at best, but outside of that just a straight double strike is just better than wasting your time with this combo, other than Etali you don't really benefit from additional combat steps.
Dictate of Karametra, Heartbeat of Spring, Zhur-Taa Ancient don't help other players, unless your deck is fast enough to win on the turn these come out, you're helping 3 other players that's NOT you. that's a strict 3 to 1 disadvantage no matter how much more lands you have. if you really want another doubler, Zendikar Resurgent.
Sunbird's Invocation is another cute card, and in a zacama deck i feel like it's just more a "win-more" card than actually helping you advance your board state, specially for it's mana cost.
please let me know how successful you've been with Food Chain + Myth Unbound combo works out for you, i thought about it, but didn't pull the trigger for it yet. Also how is Shapers' Sanctuary working out for you? i like 1 drops, and ones that can draw you cards is even better. On average how many cards do you think you draw from that card per play?
Banefire is that to remove planeswalkers? if so that's actually pretty smart, i didn't think of using it that way, but it's good to have.
Plea for Guidance this is to get your aggravated assault/bear umbra or food chain/myth unbound combo i assume, any other combos i'm missing? it's pretty expensive to play, 6 mana to search, then another 6-14 mana to get those other combos going. If you decide to keep it, i recommend adding Abundance to combo with Sylvan Library pick up lands or non lands to your liking and not pay life.
other than that, i'd recommend more ramp spells and tutors:
Rampant Growth, Hunting Wilds (don't ever pay the kicker), and Traverse the Outlands gets crazy as soon as Zacama drops, Kodama's Reach and Cultivate wouldn't hurt. Hour of Promise ramps AND searches for ANY land.
Uncage the Menagerie can play well too, but you'll have to actually build your deck around it a bit more to actually be effective.
As far as creatures go, i recommend the mana dork squad, having a consistent turn 1 play every game will really affect your board state advantage, having 3 mana on turn 2 is a big difference, specially for all the ramp spells you want to be casting.
Chameleon Colossus is a great creature for mana sink, pump it up, then you can Soul's Majesty it, or similar effect with it.
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma and Spellbreaker Behemoth this is hit and miss. you only really have 7-10 creatures they actually affect, if you feel like you're running enough green, Emerald Medallion can be better value than goreclaw, and Vexing Shusher and Prowling Serpopard would affect more of your deck than spellbreaker.
Whitemane Lion combo's with Panharmonicon to infinitly bounce zacama for the same mana cost as Temur, if temur ever gets exiled. also having flash, can save a creature in case of a removal or something.
Garruk, Primal Hunter is pretty much another Soul's Majesty. it's worth the slot even for just a 1 time use draw card when your fatties are out.
Recursion, your deck is lacking pretty much every basic form of it. Eternal Witness and Regrowth are just green staples. and personally, i would cut Praetor's Counsel for Seasons Past it's cheaper to cast, and will get back most of what you need anyways.
also i would up your land count to 36-38 your deck's average CMC is too high to be greedy on lands.
Kessig Wolf Run is just another quality land.
3 weeks ago
A couple other amazing Dragons:
1 month ago
2 months ago
removal spells - Harsh Mercy is a clear winner here. Along those lines, Kindred Dominance would also be good. Artificial Evolution works really well, like the Amoeboid Changeling you already have listed. Obviously Mutavault,Cavern of Souls and Collected Company are big winners, but pricier. I'm sure you've seen it, but Dormant Sliver is good at keeping the party going, even in the face of removal, Sidewinder Sliver helps overcome tiny deathtouch-ers, and Chameleon Colossus seems weird, but is a beefy beefy boy in decks like this.
I want to put together a sliver EDH, but you really gotta have the queen, and I just can't drop that much on one card. >.< Maybe I'm cheap, but really everything is just about priorities.
Anyway, I'm new to tappedout, so let me know what you think!
2 months ago
Do you think changelings are wolfy enough? Chameleon Colossus and maybe Changeling Titan. Baton of Morale would simulate pack tactics. Soul Foundry is a favorite of mine with decks like this and it gets extra synergy with your token doublers. Knighthood doesn't sound wolfy but some wolves are fast man (and its hilarious with your deathtouch cards).
Have you looked for a different commander? If you could find a Naya boss you could throw in Alpha Brawl and bring the wolf to them.
2 months ago
There's a fun toy that isn't in this deck for some reason, probably because it's an obscure "Junk Rare" from Journey into Nyx that no one's heard of. Heroes' Bane can be seen as either a Feral Hydra that trades a variable X for exponential growth or a Chameleon Colossus that trades Protection from Black and Changeling for permanent boosts.
2 months ago
Yes to ramp spells. Much harder to destroy lands than artifacts or enchantments and commander games are long enough to see everything destroyed. Bring your land total up to around 35 with 5 - 10 ramp/ mana rocks. Cats are mostly cheap to cast so you don't need to go crazy with the mana.
I'd choose about half your present cards except creatures to make room for forests and plains. You could lose a few of the least remarkable creatures but I like creature heavy decks.
3 months ago
How competitive and aggressive do you want to be in modern?
You can consistantly manage 12 budget 1 drop manadorks in G/W (Elvish Mystic, Llanowar Elves (I don't know why the price listing is broken), Avacyn's Pilgrim), followed by very efficient creatures in the 3/4/5 slot. Its best if those creatures let you stabilize, having an immediate board impact- Obstinate Baloth is loved for that reason, but there are plenty of alternatives.
If you want to run that an aggro deck to cast dinos, then look at Crested Herdcaller, Deathgorge Scavenger, Runic Armasaur, Siegehorn Ceratops and Thrashing Brontodon. However, as a lot of them are in standard, you might want to wait for rotation before building it in modern as it will be substantially cheaper.
GW hatebears has some older budget lists which can be plundered for ideas, and some new card printings (notably Vizier of Remedies ) allow for very powerful interactions even with budget cards (Safehold Elite looks a lot stronger).
There are also lists built around Knight of New Alara that, while long in the tooth, have solid ideas.
The strongest way to build in budget is to spot a theme across a lot of sets (that means a lot of similar cards have been printed), and grab the cheap ones that work well together (in price and cmc), so that while no part of your deck is spectacular, you can consistantly win a lot of matchups.
Green also has the benifit of access to a lot of card fixing in the form of things like Adventurous Impulse- there are like eight variants, which makes building around card interactions a lot smoother, whatever you pick.
Good luck, and happy brewing.