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, , Sacrifice Unstable Obelisk: Destroy target permanent.
Unstable Obelisk Discussion
8 hours ago
I already know phasing doesn't trigger etb/ltb. But it also doesn't give summoning sickness the way flickering does. So it's a trade off. Mist Dragon also lets me just give Mairsil flying forever without any additional resource investment. It's versatile.
Grave Upheaval is mostly for the landcycling, since I'm still trying to smooth out the mana base. But sometimes I draw it late, and don't need the mana, and it's something to cast. It's a weak link, though, I'll admit.
Unstable Obelisk is a mana rock, that, late game, is removal. Removal, I might add, that can hit any permanent type. I've found it's a pretty great card for any color combination that struggles with certain card types. Like how grixis struggles with enchantments.
Prakhata Pillar-Bug is one of only two cards I can put in a cage to give Mairsil the ability to gain lifelink. The other being Jorubai Murk Lurker , which is also in this deck. Lifelink is generally pretty useful for a Voltron-ish deck like this one, and it specifically combos with stuff like Crypt Rats , Hateflayer , Mercurial Chemister , and the Spikeshot brothers.
6 days ago
Animar is a creature based deck. You have some of the best sweepers ever in your colors. Use Toxic Deluge , Wrath of God , Damnation , Fumigate , Cleansing Nova , Terminus , Hallowed Burial , Rout , Decree of Pain , and others to beat it. I would include 6-7.
Killing animar is next to impossible in your colors. Maybe consider Unstable Obelisk ?
2 weeks ago
Hey, I'm an experienced Tiana pilot and would love to help! ( my deck link here ).
The first thing I would change is Wrath of God and Blasphemous Act because creature-only board wipes destroy the creatures, then the auras, so Tiana won't trigger for any of your auras. But board wipes like Hour of Revelation , Day of Reckoning, End Hostilities , Nevinyrral's Disk , Cataclysmic Gearhulk , Tragic Arrogance etc would make Tiana trigger on your auras. You could put in Auratog or Faith Healer so you respond to creature-only board wipes, or put in indestructible stuff like Hammer of Nazahn , Shielded by Faith , Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip etc.
Bludgeon Brawl has cool synergy with Tiana, because if Vandalblast , Scrap Mastery , Hour of Revelation etc are cast, then Tiana will trigger on your artifacts too. And if you include this, consider adding artifacts that sacrifice themselves like Unstable Obelisk , Commander's Sphere , Boros Locket , Boros Cluestone , Orazca Relic .
Along with self-sacrificing artifacts, I loved the idea of self-sacrificing auras and recycling them over and over with Tiana, especially with Sigil of the Empty Throne or Ajani's Chosen on the battlefield. Auras like Capashen Standard , Mortal Obstinacy , Flamespeaker's Will , Brand of Ill Omen , Sun Clasp , Weight of Conscience , Bound by Moonsilver , Lunarch Mantle , Uncontrolled Infestation , Inferno Fist , Guilty Conscience etc.
Other than the aforementioned cards, I'll also mention Mistmeadow Skulk which dodges board wipes, the new Swiftblade Vindicator and Smothering Tithe , Fabled Hero and other heroic cards that benefit from the aura recycling, Forgeborn Oreads and Scroll of the Masters and Mesa Enchantress for the aura recycling, Ethereal Armor , Helm of the Gods , Heavenly Blademaster , Laccolith Rig is stupid but fun, Heirloom Blade because RW sucks at draw (except this deck if you add auras that draw).
If I wanted to cut some cards from your deck, I would start with Order since it's 4 mana for a really narrow removal spell, and 3 mana to do something that odric or angelic skirmisher do (which is creatures so can be brought back into the game easier). Kwende, Pride of Femeref is essentially a 4/4 for 4 mana and is only useful for Tiana. Kitsune Mystic isn't needed with all the sacrificing and such. Authority of the Consuls and Godsend and Basilisk Collar isn't that impactful for an aggro strategy. Whispersilk Cloak gives shroud which isn't the best for a deck all about auras and equipment. Chariot of Victory isn't that good and doesn't add any power. And I would take out as many tapped lands as you don't mind, they slow down decks way too much, add Battlefield Forge .
Hope this helps makes your deck stronger!
3 weeks ago
Dark Impostor is another removal spell on a stick that exiles the creature it targeted as well as gains its activated abilites, all for low CMC and low $. Same goes for Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief but she powers herself up for a quicker kill. Guul Draz Assassin and Big Game Hunter also fit into this category.
For single target kill spells: Sever the Bloodline is a bit overcosted for most targets but is a pretty good token killer, Price of Fame is cheap enough if targeting opposing commanders and lets you dig through your library looking for answers. Tragic Slip is low CMC and can be a way around indestructible.
For mass removal, Mutilate and Black Sun's Zenith are inexpensive options. Nevinyrral's Disk can wipe the board of both artifacts and enchantments which black flat out has no real way to directly deal with.
But one of black's specialties is getting opponents to sac their owns permanents, especially creatures: Gatekeeper of Malakir , Chainer's Edict , Geth's Verdict , Plaguecrafter , Slum Reaper , Fleshbag Marauder , Diabolic Edict
For some additional artifact ramp: Charcoal Diamond , Mind Stone , Worn Powerstone , Hedron Archive Unstable Obelisk with the Obelisk doubling as 'hit anything' removal and the Stone and Archive being some card draw as well.
For mono black Cabal Stronghold is a cheap option to gain extra mana late game.
I didn't price check everything listed above but nothing there should be too outrageously priced.
4 weeks ago
I really enjoyed your suggestions Suns_Champion! Mirage Mirror is one of my favorite cards but for some reason when designing the deck I never considered it to be worth it because I completely forgot to consider the legendary rule with it... For the purposes of my deck it basically does everything Flameshadow Conjuring does but better so I will be putting that in. Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor is another creature I never considered that I will definitely be putting in. Lastly I will be trying to replace one of my ramp cards with Unstable Obelisk because there have been a couple times I wish I had more removal and I believe this card does the trick. Thanks!
4 weeks ago
Fantastic and unique deck! Always excited to see mono-Red lists!
It is sad that my friend Neheb, the Eternal doesn't fit well in here...
Here are some suggestions:
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor . She does a couple of things here. First, shes an early attacker that gives your opponents some attackers that can sow some discord among your opponents. Second, you already have the sac outlets in place to sac her when the moment in right and take the survivors back. Third, the stolen survivors then serve as a token army for when Homura is flipped!
Not sure if you like rituals or not, but Mana Geyser would give you all the late game mana you need to fuel your firebreathing creatures.
Unstable Obelisk is not particularly good, but it can cover some of red's late game weaknesses, so I use it in my red decks.
Legion Warboss for more tokens / more goblins for siege gang commander.
Mirage Mirror is a great, flexible card that does it all. In a pinch it can be used to sac your commander so that's why I'll suggest it here.
Savage Beating is a nice game finisher.
Bloodshot Cyclops is another(expensive) fling effect you might like.
That's all I got! Again, very interesting deck! Good for you!
1 month ago
Your deck has some requirements, so you should only run nonbasic lands and mana rocks that can add somehow. Some cheap suggestions are: Reliquary Tower , Unclaimed Territory (I see you have a lot of wizards), Exotic Orchard (usually tap for all your colors), Darkwater Catacombs , Sunken Hollow , Shivan Reef , Underground River , Fetid Pools , Temple of Epiphany , Temple of Deceit instead of Crypt of the Eternals , Rupture Spire , Vivid Crag , Vivid Marsh , Temple of the False God and some basic lands. // Unstable Obelisk is really expensive for what it does - Reality Shift do the job cheaply. Archaeomancer is great for recursion.
1 month ago
"did u have any line of tutoring, example what to search first, second, etc?
--> This is a Turbo Ad Nauseam list. We want to find and resolve Ad Nauseam, above all things.
If in the event Ad Nauseam is countered, we find Yawgie Doggie and play it from the yard.
Alternatively, we can also go the direct tutor route, which is slow but still possible, by manually assembling Paradox Engine + Strionic Resonator .
In the event of a heavy blue combo meta, such as Teferi Chain Veil Stax, we race them ideally because the hypergeometric distribution of the deck is in our favor.
But since things aren't ideal, we also have targeted hand hate, Boseiju, Who Shelters All, and Defense Grid to protect Ad Nauseam. You may have to get 1 of these cards prior to getting Ad Nauseam, which is why the other tutors come in handy.
============================== "any advice on how to play acording the matchups? (stax, flash hulk, blue control meta, etc)"
--> That depends on your meta, and turn order.
Bear in mind, not every stax deck operates the same way and each one attacks on a separate axis, based on their resource denial pieces.
Also bear in mind that Stax is the bane of this deck archetype. If you get stuck behind a tax piece, like Sphere for example, you may have to go find Helm of Awakening to offset the board. Alternatively, if you get stuck behind Stranglehold, you may have to Vampiric Tutor for Unstable Obelisk or Ad Nauseam to break through, which is less than ideal.
Be mindful of the following Stax pieces:
Anti-Search Effects (Stranglehold, Aven Mindcensor, Leonin Arbiter, etc.)
Null Rod/Stony Silence
Gaddock Teeg/Lavinia, Azorius Renegade
Sphere effects (Sphere of Resistance, Thorn of Amethyst, etc.)
Anything that prevents you from doing something for cheap or free must be dealt with prior to going off. In the case of creatures, use a kill spell. In the event of Null Rod or Stony Silence, you'll have to Ad Naus into Skirge Familiar then kill the table the long way via Exsanguinate + Yawg's Will (using Ad Naus and Exsanguinate again).
You can also use politics and sit back in order to let others deal with the on-board issues, but I'd suggest sitting and being patient. The longer the game goes, the less it favors you.
Against flash-hulk variants, race them, but don't be afraid to use a hand hate spell on them if you have one in hand. An E.O.T. Ad Nauseam may very well pave the way to victory.
Against TCV Stax or other fast combo decks, race them. This archetype is the 3rd fastest archetype, just barely behind Grenzo Doomsday and 4C Breakfast Hulk. Hope of Ghirapur may help here, but only marginally; if there's 2 or 3 other blue decks, Defense Grid might be the way to go. (If nothing else, it baits out a counter.)
For seat positioning, if you're not going first, bear in mind who's at the table and what's in your hand. If you can Ad Naus turn 1 or 2, go for it, including on your main phase. Remember, you don't answer questions, you ask them! (As in, "Opponents, may I see a Force of Will?".)
If your meta is stax heavy (4 or more decks in your LGS meta), ANF might not be so hot going in. But if it's lots of midrange non-blue stuff, roast'em with Fishbowl.
Having a knowledge of your meta and who's sitting at the table with you will be of great help. It's all on a case by case basis.
In a blind meta, usually it's best to find Ad Nauseam first, then drop all your fast rocks into Ad Nauseam on the same turn, so that you hide your power level to the table. (The worst that happens is you don't get there, but often times, someone else will get greedy first and splurge. Let them take the fall for you and enjoy the ensuing counter war.)
If you sit at a table with a mirror match and there's at least one other control player there (preferably no more than one), don't be afraid to use a hand hate spell as a political tool to strip Ad Nauseam out of the mirror opponent's hand. This can buy you political favor.
Let me know what your meta looks like and I may be able to help you better.
Unstable Obelisk occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
U/R (Izzet): 0.07%