Tilonalli's Skinshifter

Creature — Human Shaman

Haste

Whenever Tilonalli's Skinshifter attacks, it becomes a copy of another target nonlegendary attacking creature until end of turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (39)

SufferFromEDHD on No blocky

9 months ago

The Jeskai version of Kamiz, Obscura Oculus. I agree with you, human tribal is the wrong direction. Value off unblockability is the way to go. Infect/toxic if you want to be evil :)

Blinding Angel is epic. Glad to see this old rare in your list. Auto include no matter which strategy you chose for Aragon.

Marton Stromgald speeds up the aggro clock similar to infect/toxic.

Battle Angels of Tyr deep value.

Sun Titan or Inferno Titan repeatable value.

Cephalid Constable really fits the theme.

Flamerush Rider similar to Tilonalli's Skinshifter

Orcish Squatters haha

Graceful Antelope the haha continues

TangoWithTojo on Kresh, the Bloodbraided EDH

4 years ago

I have a lot of recommendations for you. These may be pricey so I apologize if they're out of your price range but here you go:

Cards To Add Show

- Definitely add in Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos . Every time you devour, all opponents will have to sacrifice creatures equal to the number of creatures you devoured; really powerful synergy.

• Add Reyhan, Last of the Abzan . If you can put +1/+1 counters on your creatures, your devourer will get HUGE real fast! Gets crazy too if you eat everything with Mycoloth and all those extra +1/+1 counters go to him.

• Add Triumph of the Hordes . This cards a no brainer for token swarms and huge powerful armies. Remember, it only takes 10 infect to kill someone.

• Add Moldervine Reclamation . Just a simple life gain/card draw engine for your devourers.

• Add Doubling Season , Primal Vigor , and/or Parallel Lives . They'll really help ramp up your token production.

• Add Reassembling Skeleton and Gutterbones . They provide an infinitely recurrable sac outlet for Devour.

Cards To Swap Show

- Replace Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin with Krenko, Mob Boss . He's slightly more expensive but he's easier to keep alive because you don't have to attack every turn, possibly killing him. And he exponentially adds Goblins every turn.

• Replace From Beyond with Awakening Zone . Its 1 mana cheaper and does the same thing. The search for an Eldrazi doesn't seem to be that important for your deck either so should be an good swap.

• Replace Thorn-Thrash Viashino with Bloodspore Thrinax . Viashino doesn't provide any positive effects for devouring. Bloodspore Thrinax on the otherhand can push a token deck into an absurd board state.

• Replace Mother Bear with Jade Mage . Mother Bear is situational and requires her to be in the graveyard prior to using her. And the value isn't all that great. With Jade Mage you can use all of your mana every turn to do at least something.

• Replace Emrakul's Hatcher with Tendershoot Dryad . Emrakul isn't that great for your token production. Tendershoot on the other hand can buff all of your saprolings and in a 4 player game, it'll produce 3 tokens by the time it comes back to you.

• Replace Fervor with Ogre Battledriver . Costs slightly more but you can inflict more damage with Battledriver on the battlefield.

• Replace Wolfbriar Elemental with Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest . For roughly the same mana cost, you get way more value overall.

• Replace Tilonalli's Skinshifter with Mayhem Devil . Mayhem Devil's just simply more valuable to have on the board than Skinshifter.

• Replace Algae Gharial with Poison-Tip Archer . You won't get much value out of Gharial. Poison-Tip Archer on the other hand can be lethal if kept on the board. It's basically a stronger Mayhem Devil .

• Replace Snake Umbra with Fecundity . You'll draw waaaay more with Fecundity and its not attached to a creature, therefore harder to remove. Costs exactly the same too.

• Replace Chancellor of the Forge with Dragon Broodmother . Not only does Broodmother produce tokens EVERY upkeep but the tokens themselves have Devour 2. Its also 1 mana cheaper to cast.

• Replace Strangleroot Geist with Zulaport Cutthroat . Strangleroot provides barely any value for you while Zulaport is another Poison-Tip Archer but also provides life gain.

• Replace Satyr Wayfinder with Sakura-Tribe Elder . This accomplishes exactly the same thing without milling yourself.

• Replace Whisperer of the Wilds with Incubation Druid . Not only can you Adapt Incubation Druid to get +1/+1 counters but she'll produce 3 mana of any color you need.

Cards to Cut Show

Sylvan Offering , Cartouche of Strength , Blossoming Defense . These don't have very much impact in your deck, if any at all and can easily be replaced for better options.

Mana Rocks Show

As of right now you don't have much. Sol Ring is the big one you got. Highly recommend adding in at least 3-4 of these:

Wayfarer's Bauble , Arcane Signet , Chromatic Lantern , Commander's Sphere , Darksteel Ingot , Thran Dynamo , Worn Powerstone , Fellwar Stone , Golgari Signet , Gruul Signet , Rakdos Signet , Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Resilience , Heraldic Banner

Lands Show

Lastly, remove 4 lands. I'd recommend cutting 2 forests and 2 mountains. 36 lands is the happy medium in EDH. Though your Avg. CMC is pretty low so you could probably reduce it down to as low as 32-34 because you have a lot of ramp. Anyway, once you add in the splash of black for Kresh the Bloodbraided , you'll need to add about 6-7 swamps or just lands that produce black. You'll need slightly more forests and mountains over swamps. Lands are the most expensive part of most decks so if you really like this deck, here's some lands I'd recommend for this style deck. They are expensive though:

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , Fabled Passage , Castle Embereth , Dwarven Mine , Bojuka Bog , Grim Backwoods , Phyrexian Tower , Kessig Wolf Run , Volrath's Stronghold , Overgrown Tomb , Stomping Ground , Woodland Cemetery , Blood Crypt , Dragonskull Summit , Command Tower , Savage Lands , Rootbound Crag , Rakdos Carnarium , Gruul Turf , Golgari Rot Farm

triproberts12 on Yes, No, Maybe, I Don't Know

4 years ago

In that case, you still have access to Tilonalli's Skinshifter , so I would run that one, at least. Flamerush Rider triggers your commander, even if you're stuck on 4 lands, and Kindred Charge could be pretty devastating if you can consistently get 3-5 bodies out. As for the 5-drop problem, it might seem counterintuitive, but I see no reason not to just play a 4-drop that's better. They won't trigger your commander, but they do count for Thundercloud Shaman, Sunrise Sovereign, etc. I would run Two-Headed Giant and Irregular Cohort before Kuldotha Ringleader, and Desolation Giant, although that's exactly not a 5-drop. Lower down the curve, Mirror of the Forebears is solid, and Bonecrusher Giant is great. Both can be grabbed with Sun Titan, too. If you want to keep your curve high to synergize with your commander, Boonweaver Giant with Eldrazi Conscription , Borderland Behemoth , and Realm-Cloaked Giant are all on my list. Also, since you're running Boros Charm and Sunforger, as well as sac-outlets like Brion Stoutarm, Bearer of the Heavens is a pretty definitive finisher.

StopShot on Pioneer: It was wrong to …

4 years ago

@RNR_Gaming, I'm not sure if they'd really need to think about it a whole lot when designing cards. I'm getting the impression the card is going to be like the Stoneforge Mystic of Modern, because the Mystic remained on the ban list citing that it would hinder creativity when designing equipment in later sets. Equipment however is an already touchy matter as it's already easy to go terribly wrong even without the Mystic, ie Skullclamp , Umezawa's Jitte . Copy creature effects already have that same degree of delicacy to them as you're effectively cheating creatures in for free or cheap and even when the Felidar has not been in standard Wizards will still produce a lot of watered-down copy effects that can't be broken with combos anyway like Flamerush Rider , Mirror March , Tilonalli's Skinshifter , and I doubt we'll ever see another three mana planeswalker with a copy creature ability either.

But I digress, I don't think it would hurt seeing what it would do for at least a week or month as the best time to do so would be now rather than later. It might turn out very poorly, but we don't know as all we can do is speculate rather than find out.

Rhadamanthus on Could Tilonalli's Skinshifter survive turning …

5 years ago

Unfortunately this doesn't work because they don't do their end-of-turn things at the same time. Tilonalli's Skinshifter will still be a Ball Lightning when it's time for the sacrifice ability to trigger and you aren't given a choice otherwise.

The End Phase of each turn has two separate steps: the end step and the cleanup step. Ball Lightning's ability triggers at the beginning of the end step, as it says. However, "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects wear off during the cleanup step, i.e. after the end step has already happened (the game needs to have these separate steps in order to make certain rules and mechanics work properly).

So in your example both the original Ball Lightning and the Tilonalli's Skinshifter who's pretending to be a Ball Lightning will have the "sacrifice Ball Lightning" ability trigger at the beginning of the end step. They'll both get sacrificed before the game moves on to the cleanup step.

Caerwyn on Could Tilonalli's Skinshifter survive turning …

5 years ago

This will not work.

The Ending Phase is broken into two steps - End Step and Cleanup Step (R. 512.1). The End Step occurs first.

Ball Lightning's effect triggers at the beginning of the end step; Tilonalli's Skinshifter's ability wears off the "end of turn", and such "end of turn" abilities end during the second part of the cleanup step (Rule 514.2).

As such, the End Step trigger from Ball Lightning will both trigger and resolve before the Cleanup Step begins and Tilonalli's Skinshifter reverts to its original form.

Russ1981 on Could Tilonalli's Skinshifter survive turning …

5 years ago

If I turn Tilonalli's Skinshifter into a Ball Lightning, since both of their triggers happen at the end of the turn, can I stack the Tilonnali's Skinshifter's ability to shift back before Ball Lightning's sacrifice requirement triggers?

GramerNazy on

5 years ago

Have you thought about putting a Tilonalli's Skinshifter in the deck? i think that 1 or 2 could help you out if you just need a little extra stomping power.