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Scalelord Reckoner
Creature — Dragon
Flying
Whenever a Dragon you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, destroy target nonland permanent that player controls.
Guerric on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*
2 years ago
1) Dragon's Hoard OUT Ceta Sanctuary IN
As much as I love the flavor of hoard, it is generally slow and unreliable card draw, and any artifact-based ramp that costs three mana or more is too much these days, so it's never been great there. Ceta Sanctuary is such a perfect draw spell for this deck. With Scion out it will always draw two cards every turn and discard any one card from our hand, which allows us to filter any dragons we draw into the graveyard where we can get them out more efficiently. Kudos to kookoo for this fabulous suggestion!
2) Scourge of Valkas OUT Lathliss, Dragon Queen IN
Scourge was always good mostly as a Fireball when you could mass reanimate it, and pretty bad in most other situations. If it is on the board and one dragon enters, that's at best doming something for two. In contrast, if Lathliss is out and a dragon enters we get a 5/5 dragon token. What's more to the point, if we mass reanimate Lathliss we'll get tokens for every other dragon, and if we have a haste enabler all of those tokens will be able to attack that turn.
3) Vorosh, the Hunter OUT Scalelord Reckoner IN
Reckoner has always been great, so I'm not sure why I took it out of the original deck. Knowing they'll get reciprocity for removal is always a good incentive for your opponents to leave you alone and try to politic instead. Vorosh was great if you could get the counters, have Scion stick around, and then use him with Skittles the next turn, but this was kind of a slow process with a lot of investment, which can be easily disrupted. Putting six counters on Scion has a way of putting more of a target on him due to the possibility of commander damage alone, so I think reckoner is a better card.
4) Ojutai, Soul of Winter OUT Old Gnawbone IN
Ojutai is a great disruptor and has salvaged a few iffy games for me in the past by freezing down my opponents, but it is in very particular situations that he helps us and in others it's not as good. Gnawbone gets us lots of treasure, and is a great first target for Scion, and can also hoard us resources on the board later in the game. Its just an all-star card that's good in every situation, and I had to put it in.
5) Crucible of Fire OUT Kairi, the Swirling Sky IN
Kairi just has so much utility that she's hard to pass up. She is a third protection target for Scion, which we definitely need, and can also provide great utility on board-wipes. Crucible is good and always better than you expect it to be, but it is the weakest link at this point.
6) Herald's Horn OUT Sakura-Tribe Elder IN
Horn is a great card, but not in this deck. It is best in tribal decks with cheap creatures where you can cast multiple spells a turn at a discount, and draw a card on one and three turns. I'll probably put it in my Trynn, Champion of Freedom and Silvar, Devourer of the Free deck where it will rock the house. Here it only draws a card one in four turns, and we would rather draw other cards than our dragons. As a ramp piece it doesn't help us cast Scion, hard-casting our dragons isn't a focus, and its not likely we'll be casting more than one. Good old Elder gets us a land for two mana, which is where we really need to be on ramp in this deck.
7) Maelstrom Archangel OUT Sylvia Brightspear IN
I've had Sylvia since Battlebond when I pull her from a pack and have always intended to put her in. Three mana to give all our dragons double-strike is a nasty surprise, and cheap enough that we can still activate Scion that turn. The low-end is probably when only Scion is out, but we play her and make Scion into a big dragon for a voltron kill. The high end is we play her when a bunch of dragons are on the board, or put her and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight on the board with Tooth and Nail, and relish our opponents' tears! Maelstrom Archangel is best if we can cast her when a haste enabler is out and immediately put a permanent on the battlefield. She is expensive to cast and a big removal target, and there will be plenty of times we don't have anything good to put on the board with her. I wish she was legendary and could be an angels tribal commander, but Sylvia will be better here.
Guerric on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*
2 years ago
kookoo That definitely could work, as could Spark Double and Sakashima of a Thousand Faces (who could also be used for neat tricks like using Teneb, the Harvester to reanimate himself). The difficulty is that we are fairly tight on slots already, and I am thinking about cutting Vorosh, the Hunter and maybe another card to put Scalelord Reckoner back in as well as maybe adding Kairi, the Swirling Sky and/or Iymrith, Desert Doom. Every dragon we cut from our toolbox leaves us without a tool that we can summon any time, so support pieces need to be really good in order to make it! Neat idea though!
Stardragon on Dracotopia
2 years ago
Great first deck but i fear you may not have the mana you need to make it work i would cut some lands like for some more basic lands and get a few more land ramps
Crucible of the Spirit Dragon for a Basic Mountain, Crucible is fine but slow as it only taps for colorless and you have to pay mana to get colored mana, this is the biggest maybe I've never like storage lands personally.
Gateway Plaza, Archway Commons and Rupture Spire one or two of these can be cut for another mountain and a Darigaaz's Caldera
I would also trade Opulent Palace for Savage Lands since Jund () are your main colors
I would also rearrange some of your basic land numbers try 5x Mountains, 4x Forests, 3x Swamps and 2x Plains and Islands and i would cut Underdark Rift, Treasure Vault, Rogue's Passage and Prismari Campus for the basic lands
Would also try to get some cheap basic ramp cards like Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Farseek and Sword of the Animist for basic land ramp and things like Hour of Promise, Tempt with Discovery, Pir's Whim, Explore and Growth Spiral for non basic ramp.
Now that I told my thoughts on your mana here are some other cards to help your dragons not sure your budget so i categized them. These price are based off of TCGplayer.
0.1-$4.99-Favorable Winds0.40, Teneb, the Harvester$3, Lathliss, Dragon Queen $3.50, Silumgar, the Drifting Death 0.70, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury 0.70, Eerie Ultimatum $3, Ruinous Ultimatum $5, Genesis Ultimatum $1.00,
$5-$9.99-Dragon Tempest$5, Scion of the Ur-Dragon $7, Drakuseth, Maw of Flames $5, Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund $3.50, Mirari's Wake $6, Rhythm of the Wild $6
$10-$19.99- Scalelord Reckoner $13, Vanquisher's Banner $12, Sarkhan Unbroken $15,Sarkhan, Fireblood $11,
$20 and over-Terror of the Peaks $25, Dragonlord Dromoka $25, Balefire Dragon $30, The Great Henge $50, Urza's Incubator $40, Sarkhan, Dragonsoul $27, Chromatic Orrery $20
multimedia on Draconic Domination (upgrated)
3 years ago
Hey, nice version of Ur-Dragon, but this is not aggro, it's midrange. That's fine because you don't really want aggro in multiplayer Commander since it doesn't do enough when you have three or more opponents who each start with 40 life.
Four mana even with Ur-Dragon cost reduction for Dragons is the average amount of mana you'll spend to cast your first spell which is high. You also really want a ramp mana source in your opening hand and 10 ramp sources is not enough to consistently have one. You have lots of powerful tutors here as well as Tiamat which means you could reduce the Dragons to the best ones and cut the subpar ones which will speed up gameplay. Old Gnawbone + Hellkite Charger is a Dragon win condition combo for infinite attacks.
The better Dragons:
- Tiamat
- Old Gnawbone
- Hellkite Charger
- Hellkite Tyrant
- Hellkite Courser
- Utvara Hellkite
- Terror of the Peaks
- Klauth, Unrivaled Ancient
- Dragonlord Ojutai
- Iymrith, Desert Doom
- Goldspan Dragon
- Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
- Morophon, the Boundless
- Scalelord Reckoner
In the place of other Dragons because of the high budget consider adding more lower CMC support cards?
- Esper Sentinel
- Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
- Birds of Paradise
- Mystic Remora
- Rhystic Study
- Ignoble Hierarch
- Faeburrow Elder
- Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
- Defense of the Heart
- Fellwar Stone
Cultivate, Kodama's Reach and Rampant Growth could also be replaced with better/quicker ramp and since only playing 6 basic lands.
Good luck with your deck.
Dr_Pelicano on DRAGOOOOONN
3 years ago
Hellkite Courser , Sprite Dragon , Knollspine Dragon , Niv-Mizzet Reborn , Scalelord Reckoner , Boneyard Scourge , Runehorn Hellkite , Harbinger of the Hunt
Sorgol on Dragonstorm Rainbow
4 years ago
Thanks you! That was some great advice!
I'll implement some of it since I'm trying to stay more in the red section of colours, which, especially in commander, isn't that great. I know. But it just goes so well with the more red theme of this deck..
And except that little bit of white because Scalelord Reckoner is just flipping awesome!
But I'm trying to get that Skyline Despot one day because not only goes it well with the strategy of the deck, but I too think it's a great card. And the monarch mechanic is just fun in multiplayer games!
I'll be removing the gates strategy because you're absolutely right that it's slowing the deck down just too much.
I really appreciate the advice! Thanks again!
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