Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
(Red)(Red)(Red), Tap: Destroy target artifact creature.
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2 weeks ago
1 year ago
I have a new petition for all of us to be friends.
New tier list. Only card on it is Chandler . The only friend you ever need.
1 year ago
Oh I see now.
I guess it’s hard to rationalize, because even Tier 3 commanders utilize abilities that just aren’t as important or as powerful as the tiers below.
1 year ago
So I'm building an EDH deck around good ol' Chandler, and from what I understand I can use Braid of Fire to activate his ability basically for free during my upkeep step, along with any other activated abilities or instants I can afford with Braid, since it creates an additional red mana each turn that empties after the upkeep, and there's nothing I have to pay to keep Braid in play since mana burn isn't a thing anymore. Is that right? I am allowed to use creatures' activated abilities as well as instants during my upkeep step, right? I just want to be 100% on this before I go all in on this strategy. Thanks guys!
2 years ago
Because Xiahou Dun is a slightly lesser SUV-Storm, with a general swap. Where one can exploit itself to tutor anything, the other can "exploit" itself to recur any early-turn tutors/whatever you need from your yard. And as viper pointed out, it has the added Carnival of Souls package to go Storm silly with.
Sure, it's speculative as I personally haven't tested the list I submitted, but to be perfectly frank here, every deck is before it isn't. That is how this community essentially thrives. Builds are put forth, critiqued and placed until they can either be solidified or altered. And if anyone here wants to use this on any medium for testing purposes I absolutely encourage it.
I see no valid reasoning to conclude that Xiahou Dun ought to be in a tier that is largely defined as being wildly inconsistent or a tier that suffers from 'the aggro problem' - neither of which a budgetless, competitive build of his seems to suffer from. Especially when the wincons are basically nigh indistinguishable from a general a tier and a half higher.
As it stands, the fact that it is only slightly worse than SUV would add more to the notion that it ought to be only slightly lesser than it when represented in the tiers.
Finally, facetiousness isn't really necessary here; we're all capable of reading a card's ability and thus make an educated conclusion as to their potential in terms of power level as a General. Contrary to your sentiment of being able to freely bump "everything up", we actually can't state - with sound judgement - that Chandler can rightfully be bumped up to tier 2.5 simply because "hey we're just going to speculate that it can; everything can be bumped!" We can observably see the General, objectively read its ability or lack thereof in certain cases, and assess accordingly. I can guarantee you that the majority of Tiers 3-5 were not placed where they were simply because people actually played them; that is also unfortunately how generals like Dralnu fell under people's radars, until recently contested. I would agree that testing without a shadow of a doubt, adds to the validity of placements but to discredit the process of speculation doesn't really seem apt.
I think, going forward, it would be in your best interest and for the sake of good order in this thread to just refrain from senseless comments like that.
2 years ago
MagicalHacker to be fair, the burden of proof is with the one who makes the claim for a change to the listing, allowing for the community to share input as to whether or not there's merit behind the claim - whichever way it goes.
As it stands saying "He should be higher because, hey, look at Chandler" isn't evidence.
If we're to look at the definitions of each Tier, Mirko is most assuredly not a "middle tier" that could even come close to competing with Tier 2 decks, though it follows the "wildly inconsistent" description. As for Tier 4, I'd still have a hard time believing it would do well casually, when other casual mill commanders just seem more consistent. Building around a guy that forces you to rely on your opponent's random arrangement of a library is what I'd constitute as a "janky" build.
Another flaw (which also applies to other mill generals tbh) is that you've no idea if an opponent will run a Kozilek or any GY shuffle effect, completely wasting the ability. Suppose you're on that 3rd land and a Kozilek hits, that grave is shuffled back and you topdeck a land. Do you really feel like you've accomplished something?
3 years ago
I also threw this together in about 15 minutes and added Chandler and crew because this deck isn't meant to be too serious.
3 years ago
Aww, sniped. I'll do Joecool's
General's Home- Chandler
T: Add R.
, T: Target creature becomes an artifact until end of turn.
Another one for a bad commander like this, use the unplayable commander list - here