Vampire Cutthroat

Vampire Cutthroat

Creature — Vampire Rogue

Skulk (This creature can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.)

Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)

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Eldritch Moon (EMN) Uncommon

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Format Legality
Penny Dreadful Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Leviathan Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Vintage Legal
Pioneer Legal
Magic Duels Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Highlander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Modern Legal
Legacy Legal
Frontier Legal
2019-10-04 Legal

Vampire Cutthroat Discussion

Blobby_Bobby on Kambal - First Approach to Commander

3 months ago

That is a very good question, what to cut. I don't want to micromanage anything but here are cards I feel are "weak" with what you have going (also, keep Dash Hopes if your play group hates it, it must be good ;))

Out (?): Conclave Tribunal

Dictate of Erebos (I know, it's an amazing card, but without creature support it isn't actually doing anything for you. This is a soft cut, it's always going to put a little work in just like Butcher of Malakir)

Maybe replace Prison Realm with One Thousand Lashes and/or Faith's Fetters

I LOVE Subversion but is it really putting in enough UMPH for 5 CMC? I really like Righteous Cause but that's just me. Hissing Miasma is pretty cool too, no life gain but it's cheaper and deters attacks.

Consecrate / Consume (hope formatting works here) is a 4 cmc kind of squanky force sacrifice of the most dangerous (most powerful) creature of an opponent. I don't like it. You have a huge removal suite and this seems like a good cut. You have Orzhov, you are the removal king and you can Murder or Return to Dust

Consecrate / Consume is too situational to be useful in your go-to 100

Revival / Revenge is sexy, keep it. But look at what cards actually make it mean something. Serra Avatar Evra, Halcyon Witness Sunbond etc. Play around with it, but in my experience, it is rare for doubling your life total to more impactful than gaining 3 instances of life gain. (but look at Wall of Reverence

Cut Dismember for more "UMPH" (kill conditions) Cut Make a Stand for more "UMPH" (kill conditions) Cut Nightmare's Thirst It is too situational for you. We can find better removal. Find room for more "UMPH" (kill conditions) Cut Rootborn Defenses we're going to add some creatures who love life gain after this section

OK, stick with me on this one: Liliana, Dreadhorde General draws cards for dead creatures, right? But... you don't have creatures (really) in your deck... Not saying cut her, but she would and will be happier in a sacrifice black deck (Maybe a Sheoldred, Whispering One deck, I think you could do it). If you need to make cuts I'm saying she isn't doing much for you here but letting you draw sometimes.

We're not abusing Athreos, God of Passage but he's too awesome to cut. If he isn't pulling his weight in this deck you can ship me the card, I'll give you my address. ;)

Mentioned Butcher of Malakir before: awesome card as deterrence but it shines when you have a lot of token to sacrifice for value. not an immediate cut, but if you include Sheoldred, Whispering One and Dictate of Erebos you might want want to add some sacrifice/recursion to capitalize. Making your sacrifices give you advantage and hurt your enemies is the coolest thing black can do.

Cut Piper of the Swarm replace with Vampire Cutthroat or Vampire Nighthawk or Call to the Feast or really anything. Piper isn't helping your mechanics. Replace with Sunscorch Regent because that guy beefs up fast and hard.

In (?)

Dusk is a great wipe and the dual nature of the card gives utility.

This is your call. I'd recommend Sunscorch Regent as a win-con.

Serra Avatar is great with life gain, especially if you add Rogue's Passage

Just look for ways to make that life gain work for you: Bloodbond Vampire Bloodthirsty Aerialist Ajani's Pridemate

Rebuff the Wicked is a fantastic counterspell, works with you control aspect. If it were me I'd add more card draw and Approach of the Second Sun and aim for that. Easier win con than Revel in Riches in my experience (have mardu deck based on treasure, removal and alternate win cons and Approach of the Second Sun is much easier and more reliable than Revel in Riches.

I don't know what else to say. You make your own Kambal deck. Just know you need some "UMPH" to take down your opponents beyond some life gain and drain. I love the build, but you need to 'seal the deal' as it were.

Arktaurous on Edgar Markov Vampires

4 months ago

Great deck!

I would swap Vampire Cutthroat with Vampire of the Dire Moon because deathtouch is handier than skulk.

I would get Dark Impostor in there. You could swap out Stromkirk Condemned,Vampire Hexmage, or Vampire Nocturnus. More than half your deck isn't black cards so Vampire Nocturnus might not be as handy not to mention showing your opponent your next draw is not usually advantageous.

Purphoros, God of the Forge is kinda expensive for a chance at extra damage. Consider Brutal Hordechief; relative same cost but more bang for your buck. Along with Sanctum Seeker and say Foul-Tongue Shriek you could be doing a ton of damage.

I would swap Basalt Monolith out for Ashnod's Altar. A lot more mana production, a lot more synergy with other cards in the deck, less expensive, more utility est.

I think you really need some card draw in there but I'm not sure how to make those changes. You could use cards like Oathsworn Vampire as a way to sacrifice a creature for cards like Altar's Reap, Carnage Altar,Costly Plunder, Dredge, Merciless Resolve, Morbid Curiosity, Phyrexian Vault, Reprocess, Skulltap, or Vampiric Rites.

Idol of Oblivion could get you some extra card draw with all of Edgar's token generation.

Cliffhaven Vampire, Defiant Bloodlord, and Epicure of Blood are all worthy of consideration.

Drana's Emissary is also nice to have early game.

junkyxicht on Edgar the BOSS

6 months ago

OUT: Malakir Bloodwitch - Mathas, Fiend Seeker - Rakish Heir - Cruel Celebrant

IN: Viscera Seer - Vampire Cutthroat - Blood Seeker - Gatekeeper of Malakir

I try to fit in more 1 and 2 drops. But its damn hard to make cuts. Bloodlord of Vaasgoth and Sangromancer where also in for the cuts (mostly becaus they are CMC 4&5) but both CAN provide greate value. often Sangromancer saved my ass

Kalavas on Ed the Bloodsucking Bully

8 months ago

Here are some creature cards I'd like to add soon:

Dusk Legion Zealot , Cordial Vampire , Cruel Celebrant Knight of the Ebon Legion , Vampire of the Dire Moon , Changeling Outcast , Vampire Cutthroat , Duskborne Skymarcher . Lastly Purphoros, God of the Forge for amazing damage potential when i get the spare cash.

Some other cards I would like to get are the following:

Shared Animosity , Coat of Arms , Diabolic Intent , Phyrexian Altar , Cover of Darkness , Impact Tremors

Some Cards I'm considering:

Debt to the Deathless , Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord

Finally some Wishlist cards I hope to get sooner or later, but are more pricey:

Cavern of Souls , Marsh Flats , Vampiric Tutor

SideBae on Howdy, May I have some Blood???

10 months ago

Hey N3M3S1S! Welcome to EDH. I hope you find it fun... I like this format the most. Hopefully you'll find these suggestions helpful:

  1. Card-draw is one of the most important elements of any EDH deck -- in a format with three opponents, you typically want any source of card advantage you can get. Not being in blue means you don't have access to Windfall and friends, but Mardu has its fair share of mass-draw effects. I highly suggest Painful Truths ... You'll frequently be casting it as a three-mana draw-three, and the life-loss is more than worth it. Other draw-spells to consider: Night's Whisper , Minions' Murmurs , Faithless Looting , Syphon Mind , Read the Bones , Commune with Lava , Sign in Blood ... I'm sure there're more, but they aren't coming to mind. Permanent-based card-advantage is even better, since it's... well... permanent. Consider some of the following: Twilight Prophet , Phyrexian Arena , Arguel's Blood Fast  Flip, Greed ... I love that you already have Necropotence .

  2. Multi-for-One removal is another way to build card-advantage -- cards like Go for the Throat , Anguished Unmaking , Mortify and Path to Exile are good in two-player formats, but in multiplayer I've often found them not to be good enough. Some cards to consider instead: Fire Covenant , Grasp of Fate , Wear / Tear ... Though it's a one-for-one, I think you should include Swords to Plowshares . It only removes one thing, but it's like... REALLY efficient. Path to Exile ramping your opponent is actively dangerous.

  3. Gamble is a good tutor to consider. Enlightened Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are also good, although those two tend to be very pricy.

  4. Consider Cover of Darkness as another way to capitalize on your tribal theme. Other tribal-powering cards to consider include: Cavern of Souls , Patriarch's Bidding , Vampire Nocturnus , Bloodlord of Vaasgoth , Malakir Bloodwitch and Champion of Dusk . I suggest removing Gifted Aetherborn Paladin of Atonement , Pitiless Pontiff and/or Vampire Cutthroat for some of these.

  5. Your artifact-ramp package has room for improvement. I like your signets... two-mana rocks are much better than three-mana rocks. Consider some or all of the following: Talisman of Conviction , Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Indulgence , Mind Stone , Fellwar Stone , Arcane Signet , Prismatic Lens or even just Coldsteel Heart .

  6. I think Lightning Greaves is probably better than Swiftfoot Boots , if you want to be able to equip frequently. If you need to get around the shroud, you can move the boots to something else, do what you need, and then return the boots to the first creature.

  7. If you take my advice from (5), you can cut some lands. In general, if you have ramp and your curve is low, you can run 31 or 32 lands. With your current curve, I suggest 35 lands plus ramp. If you want to keep your basic land count high, you can run things like Blood Moon , Ruination , etc. Otherwise, here're some non-basics to consider: City of Brass , Mana Confluence , Prismatic Vista , Godless Shrine , Blood Crypt and Sacred Foundry .

  8. Finally, I see you're running Bloodghast . Consider Skullclamp . The combo of 'play a land, pay one, draw two' seems good.

Right. Good luck have fun!

Sorin_Markov_1947 on Sorin to victory (orzhov vampires)

10 months ago

Several of the cards you mentioned I already have, but you've also given me several good suggestions.

Indulgent Aristocrat takes away some of my creatures and mana for (in my opinion) too little benefit. Yes having a +1/+1 counter on each of my creatures is nice, but as I said to Kjartan, this deck doesn't field many vampires at once, and I have several better options for combat than Indulgent Aristocrat .

Vampire Cutthroat is a weak option as well. It can provide some hits later game, but I prefer my 1/2s better.

Lashwrithe is too heavy in mana cost for the gain it gives, but I may have to look into Blade of the Bloodchief .

Guul Draz Vampire is too situational, Shadow Alley Denizen is too low-impact, and Pulse Tracker is out-classed by Vicious Conquistador . Stromkirk Condemned is good, I've added three of him to the decklist.

Gonti's Machinations is a possibility, but it's situational as well. Bump in the Night is too low-impact; it just hits the enemy, it doesn't further my board position.

Several of the spells you mention in the "cheap effective spells" list would make a great sideboard, which I'm afraid I'll have to get to later.

lagotripha on Sorin to victory (orzhov vampires)

10 months ago

I've played a lot of modern vamps. Some of the best options are dirt cheap, so it makes for a great budget list to take to FNM. Most of the time I've been in mono black, but splashing for lietennant is fairly low-cost and low-risk for a great card.

For this list, Vampire of the Dire Moon , Vampire Cutthroat , Indulgent Aristocrat will do an amazing job filling out the one-drop slots. They are the 'best' budget setup I've found- great burn matchup and evasion/great deathtouch trades into bigger threats. They also play nice with Lashwrithe and Blade of the Bloodchief .

If your budget is tight enought that filling out with $1 1 drops seems rough, look at Guul Draz Vampire , Shadow Alley Denizen and Pulse Tracker alongside Stromkirk Condemned , Urge to Feed and direct damage like Gonti's Machinations and Bump in the Night . Playing a lot of 1 mana creatures that get pumped is really good, and evasion like intimidate makes something like mono-red burn but with hand disruption.

Two mana stronger options is Legion Lieutenant and Cordial Vampire (you can run Stromkirk Condemned , Dusk Legion Zealot or Cruel Celebrant ), and three is Vampire Nighthawk and Bloodthirsty Aerialist since you have them and want those slots for budget removal/carddraw. Gifted Aetherborn deserves a mention as it used to be cheap, but dire moon is frankly better and in print.

Next we come to the thing that makes budget mono-black king of the budget lists- cheap, effective spells. Sign in Blood is playable card-draw. Underworld Connections while far, far worse than Phyrexian Arena , and worse than bob still performs admirably. Delirium Skeins & Mind Rake devastates control players. Duress successfully hates out combo players. Standard cards like Mire's Toll & Drill Bit perform miracles. Cards like Flaying Tendrils can play at being one-sided boardwipes, and your sideboard has access to all manner of oddball cards that had too many copies to get expensive for modern- from Shadowfeed to Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage .

Grab some playtest tools and muck about- you will find a great deck within your budget that you can muck about with to perform well in your local meta.

xaarvaxus on First Vampire Deck

1 year ago

You have a bit of trimming to do in the land department. 53 is excessive for all but the most niche Commander decks plus you have quite a few non-basics that you have multiples of and that isn't allowed in a singleton format.

You'll want to cut down to 100 cards total and be around the 34-36 land count. Eliminating the multiples gets rid of 12 and I'd pull all of them that come into play tapped as Edgar is a very aggressive deck and tapped lands are slow lands.

Also because of how aggressive this commander wants to be, more one drops are your friend. I'd add both the Vampire Cutthroat and the Vampire Lacerator from your maybeboard as well as Viscera Seer and Indulgent Aristocrat .

Drana, Liberator of Malakir should keep your vamps growing.

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