Creature — Vampire Rogue
Skulk (This creature can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.)
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
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Vampire Cutthroat Discussion
3 days ago
Okay, I guess the next place to start is by going over the various archetypes for vampires in modern. They are a pretty flexible tribe, so there are lots of directions you can take them. Aggro, midrange, control, and even combo-esque strategies are pretty viable avenues to explore.All the lists are pretty much comprised of the following creatures depending on which direction you want to go: Bloodghast, Vampire Nocturnus, Stromkirk Captain, Stromkirk Noble, Captivating Vampire, Shadow Alley Denizen, Pulse Tracker, Vampire Nighthawk, Gifted Aetherborn (AKA Vampire Nightwalk), Vampire Lacerator, Vampire Cutthroat, Stromkirk Condemned, Olivia, Mobilized for War, Olivia Voldaren, Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Insolent Neonate, Falkenrath Aristocrat, Indulgent Aristocrat, Falkenrath Gorger, Drana, Liberator of Malakir, Bloodthrone Vampire, Blood Artist, Viscera Seer, Blood Seeker, Asylum Visitor, Bloodline Keeper Flip, and Gatekeeper of Malakir.
Aggro lists generally stay super low to the ground in regards to CMC and include a lot of lords. Given the low CMC. Aether Vial also starts to become very good -- especially since all the lords tend to hang at 3 CMC.
There are multiple routes to midrange. One route is to to try and abuse the madness effect to turn Liliana of the Veil's +1 into a 1 sided effect.
The other is slightly more combo-y. Aristocrats is an interesting archetype that abuses the recursiveness of Bloodghast, the life-loss triggers from Blood Artist, and the instant speed sacrifice effects of Viscera Seer, Bloodthrone Vampire, Falkenrath Aristocrat and Indulgent Aristocrat. I also personally like Reassembling Skeleton, Gravecrawler, Doomed Traveler, and or Bloodsoaked Champion in the list to further be able to abuse the Blood Artist triggers with more sacrifice fodder. White also gives access to things like Rally the Ancestors -- which can be a brutal play to ping for a lot of dmg with Blood Artist triggers.
There is also more traditional midrange which just aims to play threats that if left unanswered -- typically win you the game. Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Bloodline Keeper Flip, and Olivia Voldaren are all very dangerous cards for your opponent to leave in play, and Gatekeeper of Malakir can be a huge pain given his ability to not only provide a decent body, but also take down an opponent's creature with his kicker cost. Vampire Nighthawk and Gifted Aetherborn are also good for similar reasons. they trade profitably wirh almost any creature and have the benefit of giving you back some life.
There are 3 routes for combo that you can also go -- the first involves Bloodline Keeper Flip and Intruder Alarm. The second route is Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood + vampire's ability to easily ping for 1 somehow to trigger the combo. The third is Mindcrank or Duskmantle Guildmage + Bloodchief Ascension.
I can definitely help you refine a list once you have a basic archetype in mind. Right now you seem to be in between aggro and midrange. Which is perfectly fine. You can mix and match a little bit. Devotion, as another user suggested, is also viable -- however vampires do not really have a ton of super good ways to use oodles of mana.
4 days ago
Here are a few thoughts. Please take them with healthy skepticism though, as I VERY rarely play BW!
First, I think your mana curve looks really awkward. That many 3-drops means the deck is going to be really slow, and that's kind of a recipe for getting crushed in the current super-fast meta. I think you either need to add a TON more control (so you can survive long enough to cast and then swing with a couple Dwarves, plus Ordic), or a TON more one- and two-drops (do you can have a bunch of dudes on the field and then make them super-powered when Odric finally gets there).
I know you love the Dwarves, and the Control route is probably the best way to keep them all, but that's going to be very expensive, as you'd probably want to add 3x Fatal Push and 4x Grasp of Darkness just for starters.
So maybe look at adding some inexpensive one-and two-drops with useful keywords? I'd also recommend and empasis on Deathtouch, as it seems to be especially powerful in a world of HUGE BG Creatures. And with this kind of scheme I'd seriously aim for at least 24 Creatures, and maybe as high as 28.
Some cards to consider ...
- Gifted Aetherborn, Lone Rider Flip, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Rancid Rats, Vampire Cutthroat, Indulgent Aristocrat (partly because of the Lifelink, but also b/c you might be able to get some Vampire tribal going), Relentless Dead, Glint-Sleeve Siphoner,
- Gryff's Boon, Always Watching , Duress, and Transgress the Mind are also really good, if you can find the room or if you already have some available.
- Selfless Spirit would be awesome, but it's still really pricey :-(
Good luck (and good skill) on the build!
6 days ago
Fishguru21, thank you for pointing out my error in calling this a rakdos deck. The deck started as rakdos, but I wanted to try orzhov instead, but forgot to update the description. As for your card reccomendations Sorin, Grim Nemesis costs way too much for this deck, and also is a dead card against any variation of Saheeli Copy Cat, which is still a fair amount of the metagame. However, it certainly is a powerful card.
20IzzetEngineer00 and Verado, I agree that the Thraben Inspector is not the strongest card in the deck, but I needed a source of card advantage to keep my hand filled in grindier matchups. Also, I'm not sure that Vampire Cutthroat or Yahenni, Undying Partisan are the best cards for this deck, for seperate reasons. Vampire Cutthroat simply does not have a large enough impact on the board at anypoint in the game, and I don't get any value from sacrificing creatures to feed Yahenni, and he starts too small to get through on the ground in many match ups, namely GB Constrictor, and is a non-bo with Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, but he is deserving of sideboard slots for the hate feature.
As for the colours of this deck, while red might be the best to take advantage of the vampires, I don't actually get much value in terms of additional vampire lords in the deck, and is also fairly generic. I also don't think that mono-black is very good in this format, as you need to have multiple colours in order to fight against the variety of threats that GB Constrictor, Mardu Vehicles, and Saheeli. Any of the bant colours could provide interesting takes on the deck, but due to the number of double black symbols, it would have to be only a splash for the other colour. Thoughts?
Finally, in order to run a tribal deck, you need as many "lords as possible", but three of my lords at the moment are nearly uncastable due to the double white in Always Watching . Are there any lords that I missed, or could a Aetherborn/Vampire tribal deck viable with Midnight Entourage? Thoughts?
1 week ago
1 week ago
Not really sure what you're going for here but in the comments 2 good cards to speed up and play off the whole infinite mana combo is Korlash, Heir to Blackblade and Lashwrithe. But it looks like your deck is suffering from a lack of synergy if I had to take a gander as to why it wouldn't play out well. Vampires, zombies, and demons are the best staples/tribal types to play out in black. Some good suggestions for those are
These are the best cards to add in generic styled black decks, there are better cards in each of those categories but those are a few of the best in general and don't need other mechanics to work well. I hope these help as this is your first deck!
1 week ago
1 week ago
I like where this is going but i really don't like the addition of white. As has been pointed out the Thraben Inspector is not good here since you only have 4 mana available for a potential turn 1 cast and its useless after. Always Watching , while an amazing card, does not have nearly the mana base needed for double white casting.
Two options for alternate colors: mono-black or swap white for green. Green would bring in the Winding Constrictor which works amazingly with Drana and the Mimic, possibly also Kalitas and Yahenni if you add him. Swap Thraben for Vampire Cutthroat. Find room for Yahenni, Undying Partisan perhaps in place of a Pariah or two.
2 weeks ago
Sadly during my testing I have yet to draw Glint-Sleeve Siphoner to know just how well it functions. Don't want to go up in copies till I have had a chance to feel it out.
As for the Vampire Cutthroat, I am not sure I will bother squishing it into my deck as I am struggling to make room for other cards that occasionally catch my attention. While I like the value of 1 mana for 2 keywords, they are not the ones I am prioritizing.
I am currently trying to make room for Selfless Spirit as I have just came across a set of them. Will post deck changes after I come up with them soon. I will also try to include a list in the deck description of card options to those on a budget.
Ty for the suggestions and I am willing to hear anymore that you might come across.