|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Planechase Anthology (PCA)||None|
|Planechase 2012 Edition (PC2)||Common|
|Rise of the Eldrazi (ROE)||Common|
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See Beyond Discussion
2 weeks ago
This deck sort of looks like it has consistency issues. You're only running 5 polymorph effects, 6 ways to make a creature to polymorph, and 8 cantrips (I don't really count Remand ). I guess you also have Search for Azcanta Flip, and you can flashback Faithless Looting , but one Serum Visions ? One Polymorph ? Here's how I would build this deck:
First, we go RUG. 2x Khalni Garden . 4x Sprout Swarm and 4x Sprout instead of Hordeling Outburst and Spawning Breath . 2x See Beyond , 4x Serum Visions . Ditch the Search for Azcanta Flip, Rune Snag , and Remand . Shave an Izzet Charm , a Faithless Looting , and a Lightning Bolt for 3 more Polymorph s.
You're now playing 10 polymorph-able cards instead of 6, 8 polymorph effects instead of 5, and 12 cantrips, as before. Sure, you have fewer counterspells, but Remand is not a good card no matter what people say, and Rune Snag isn't that great, either. You can even buyback Sprout Swarm if you just need to keep chump-blocking.
Is Indomitable Creativity going to be hard to cast in a 3-color deck? No, this is modern--you can play anything you want. Green would also give you access to some better sideboard options, like being able to flashback Ancient Grudge .
On an unrelated note, I feel like a deck like this could actually benefit from running an Electrodominance package that included Restore Balance due to not playing literally any creatures beyond one, but there just isn't any room for it, sadly. Still, though...you could play Wheel of Fate to pitch an emrakul you drew...you could play Ancestral Vision ...the possibilities are limitless, really.
2 months ago
good card for them to replace are :High Tide, Distant Melody, Airborne Aid, Shared Discovery, Mizzium Skin, Gigadrowse, Sage's Row Denizen, Rhystic Study, any of the cantrips. theres a bit of protection, control and card draw. but i suggest you take out Sudden Storm, Aerial Formation, Piracy Charm, Hubris, Jace's Scrutiny, Refocus, Reach Through Mists, Tidal Bore. for more useful cards like Gush, Hoodwink, Man-o'-War, Snap, Volrath's Curse, Relic of Progenitus and more counters like Dream Fracture, Faerie Trickery, Arcane Denial, Logic Knot oh and See Beyond seems like a good enough hand filter.
3 months ago
Your sorceries are not modern legal, unfortunately.
Also, how competitive would you like this deck?
6 months ago
Hi once again Grubbernaut! I see what you are talking about regarding See Beyond and I should add something similar, I was thinking about Brainstorm, which I prefer but I don't know what to take out. I know the bell is very slow, but I was thinking about improving it with the help of some good interaction like with cards with flashback or something like that. About creatures, I don't really like to focus all the deck around one idea only, and I'd like to always have an ace in the hole like Jace's Phantasm if things go wrong, so, yeah, I think I'll leave the deck as a half turbofog. Thanks for your opinions though!
6 months ago
See Beyond is a must.
Ghoulcaller's Bell is so slow, too. I'd completely cut out all the creatures, too, for more fog and card draw. They don't help you win, really, and if you're fogging anyway, blocking doesn't matter. You definitely shouldn't be aiming to win with damage if you're doing turbofog.
7 months ago
Thanks for the comment Flooremoji
Usually people dont sideboard in tormods crypt, its a Surgical Extraction or Extirpate to try and stop it when it hits the graveyard, which is why See Beyond becomes quite key to the deck. Otherwise the graveyard isnt that useful to me, besides the flashback on Faithless Looting
7 months ago
Since you have no emeria anymore, I would cut the See Beyond because emrakul gets shuffled away with any loot spell. Although it doges GY hate, have you seen anyone side in a Tormod's Crypt against Polymorph?
9 months ago
Hey justhereforthemagic, thanks for your interest in the list! You can definitely do what you want with the list and make any changes you think may make it better. I haven't been working on my lists for awhile now because things have gotten pretty busy.
One thing I can say for sure is that the list is not close to done; ideally I would trim it down to 60 cards and be able to add in much better additions. If you are trying for the budget build, then something along these lines can work in the casual format. I love to play this deck against my friends, but the focus is all over the place. If you want to focus on the mill, then I would take the Psychosis Crawlers out. If you want to try the creature // damage build, I would try to fit Chasm Skulkers in.
If you have them lying around, Brainstorm would definitely be the draw spell of choice over See Beyond. The miser Jace was just a filler card and can be easily replaced with more efficiency as well. Anyway, I would definitely be interested to see your version of the deck if you end up making one. Have fun with the list! :)
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