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| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Historic Brawl | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pioneer | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Grim Return
Instant
Choose target creature card in a graveyard that was put there from the battlefield this turn. Put that card onto the battlefield under your control.
Profet93 on
Toshiro Umezawa Spellslinger Control
2 months ago
Forbidden Orchard - To always have a creature to target/destroy + politics
Lashwrithe > Nightmare lash - Option to use mana to equip + comes with a token attached.
Sword of Wealth and Power/Glamdring > Spellbinder - High equip cost, chance for 2 for 1, and requires instants in hand. The casting without paying is nice but I believe having your commander be pro instants + sorceries is huge as they need to interact prior to combat. Not to mention the first strike on Glamdring.
Demonic Tutor > Mastermind's acquisition?
Shizo, Death's Storehouse > Swamp
Sheoldred's Edict - Removal with an option
Defile - Not needed but can pack a punch
Dismember - A bit expensive but flexible. Might be worth noting
Grim Return - Cute, especially with ETB effects
Force of Despair - Interact while tapped out
Dash Hopes - How has this been playing for you? Seems like they just lose 5 life for 2 mana.
Liability - Is this impactful enough? I feel it can backfire and the upside isn't incredibly strong. Although, it does wreck token decks with a board wipe.
Mirrorpool - One of my favorite cards! What is your target with it usually, I don't see any incredible payoffs.
IHATENAMES on
Vampire aggristocrats
2 years ago
Cards I'd suggest cutting Necropolis Regent Teysa Karlov Nighthawk ScavengerVampire Nighthawk
Cards I'd suggest finding room for
Tutors like Forerunner of the Legion if you don't like the usual ones.
Mass reanimation like Twilight's Call Living Death or even Patriarch's Bidding I feel mass reanimation and using aristocrats to win on the spot is the most ideal way to win in this type of deck. Always run some if you plan to win with death triggers.
Smaller reanimation Victimize Grim Return ReanimateExhume Mikaeus, the Unhallowed Thrilling Encore
More aristocrats Sir Konrad, the Grim Zulaport Cutthroat
Specifically for Edgar Markov I'd run some sort of Xtra combat spell like Waves of Aggression just so he is the finisher he is if you need to cast him.
GangstaFranksta on
Red Green Black EDH
2 years ago
Rather than any of those cards that return a creature from graveyard to hand try these: Blood for Bones, Animate Dead, Grim Return, or maybe even Ashen Powder.
Arievilo on
Hell's Gates
3 years ago
Hey zapyourtumor ! Thanks for the great tips already added some to the deck here.
I replaced Fetid Imp with Scourge of the Skyclaves . It fits the cheap creature place better and is a demon so not only helps the priests to summon more demons but also helps with Mark of the Oni . I also think he goes great with Vexing Devil , Blood Crypt and Spawn of Mayhem . Dark Confidant would be perfect but it is too expensive. Even the scourge is a bit expensive to add to the physical deck right now but I'll save up for it and in time I will get it, maybe someday I'll get my hands in some of that dark wizard.
About Mark of the Oni I understand what you are saying but I love the card. It is really fun to play with it so I'll not remove it despite the drawback it has. Regarding Grim Return it is also just a fun card if I get to combo with Archfiend of Depravity (or Desecration Demon you suggested and cast it on my opponent's end turn to take over one of his creatures, or combine it with removal to take one of his creatures for me, so that being said I liked the ideia of having Sin Prodder because, besides the draw help, it seems like a easy way to help me cast Rakdos, Lord of Riots and goes well with it later either.
Thanks for the tip about Lightning Bolt , fits better in the deck than Go for the Throat . I just don't quite understand why you prefer Fatal Push to terminate. As I see it is just +1 mana cost for a more solid removal but I might be missing something so if you could detail more on your thoughts about it I would appreciate it.
Finnally, after altering the virtual version of the deck I finished with 22 lands. Kind of on the fence on keeping the 3rd Rakdos, Lord of Riots or the 2nd Lord of the Void instead of a 23rd land card. What do you think?
I had Master of Cruelties in the main deck at first because I really like it too. Thanks again for your suggestions, really appreciate it
zapyourtumor on
Hell's Gates
3 years ago
Cool concept! Here are some of my initial thoughts and comments after reading through the list a few times.
I really don't like Blood Speaker. A 4 mana 3/2 vanilla that tutors a demon to hand for 4 mana everytime - if it let you tutor one onto the battlefield it might actually be playable. I would cut all of these.
The main issues I see with the deck are your disruption package. I would add more efficient removal like Lightning Bolt and Fatal Push over a lot of your Go for the Throats and Terminates (I'd leave 1 Terminate for Murktide decks). Grim Return doesn't seem super great either.
I'd also include hand disruption in a playset of Inquisition of Kozilek, since I assume Thoughtseize is out of your price range. Discard is just a staple in any black midrange deck like this. While these cards might be a little more expensive than the other cards in the deck, Bolt/Push/Inquisition are all modern staples that can slot into most red/black decks and are unlikely to lose their value anytime soon.
Mark of the Oni is cute, so if you really have fun with it in the deck then of course that's fine, it just doesn't seem very good because the best time to drop it is earlier in the game to survive and you can't really play it early game. The only cheap demons I could find are Dream Devourer and Scourge of the Skyclaves which could slot in if you want to keep Mark of the Oni. Only run Scourge if you are running a playset of bolt though. If you have the money for Scourge I'd definitely get it, although it's pretty expensive.
Since you have Skirsdag High Priest, you probably need some lower costed creatures. While Fetid Imp fits the theme, its really bad. I'd cut it. Honestly something like Dark Confidant would be great here since you can tap it to Skirsdag and it gives you some much needed draw power, but it's really expensive. I can't really think of any other good 1-2 cmc black creatures that fit the hell theme (except asmor but she doesn't count lol), but there are definitely some good ones out there.
Some other devils/demons are Sin Prodder (need that draw engine?), Desecration Demon, which gets really brutal with Archfiend of Depravity, and Doom Whisperer. I'm sad that Master of Cruelties probably doesn't fit here since he's my favorite demon.
TheVectornaut on
Black and White - please help!
3 years ago
To stay more in black, I would consider some sort of vampire sacrifice, counters, and/or lifedrain strategy. Your black cards that could work well in such a deck would be Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim , Embodiment of Agonies , Kambal, Consul of Allocation , Knight of the Ebon Legion , Mortician Beetle , Souls of the Faultless , Castigate , Disentomb , Gerrard's Verdict , Revival / Revenge , Despark , and Grim Return . Most of the other black cards are at least playable as well. The only two I'd cut in most circumstances are Underworld Dreams and In Garruk's Wake . The former needs more build-around while the latter just costs too much to be a consistent boardwipe.
Cards I'd look at adding for such a build might be Gatekeeper of Malakir , Anowon, the Ruin Sage , Sangromancer , Dictate of Erebos , Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet , Victim of Night , Indulgent Aristocrat , Pawn of Ulamog , Grim Haruspex , Silversmote Ghoul , Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Vampire Nighthawk , Vampire of the Dire Moon , Malakir Cullblade , Blood Artist , Urge to Feed , Feast of Blood , Heliod, Sun-Crowned , Archangel of Thune , Cruel Celebrant , Drana's Emissary , Indulging Patrician , Malakir Bloodwitch , Marauding Blight-Priest , Sanctum Seeker , Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose , and Pious Evangel Flip.
As a side note, to go infinite with Sanguine Bond , Vizkopa Guildmage , or Vito, the card you need is actually Exquisite Blood which is unfortunately quite expensive.
PhotogenicParasympathetic on
Tyranny of the Disk (Nevinyrral Wraths/Zombies)
4 years ago
Any thoughts on Malakir Rebirth Flip and/or Grim Return? Both would allow you to recur Nev after blowing the board for a lot of zombie value.